12 Nov
2011
12 Nov
'11
1:57 p.m.
Hi all,
I have been following TDE development, howeverI don't like Ubuntu's
"way of life" and Debian Squeese lacked some drivers I need, so I've
been using Squeese based Mepis 11 for the last moths (Warren finaly
put together a usable KDE 4.x desktop).
With the release of TDE 3.5.13 I decided to look if I could install it
on Mepis. I followed the instructions for Squeese and actually
everything went smoothly, except that update-initramfs failed, so I
had to run it again with -t -u
The problem I'm trying to solve is this: after reboot, I was able to
choose TDE as environment for my session. However, I get a "Could not
start kdeinit. check your installation" message. When I click "OK",
TDE seems to load correctly, but kicker crashes on me very often, some
settings can't be done (e.g. I cant change the clock, clicking on
"configure clock" crashes kicker). I don't seem to find the TDE
settings, which I would expect to be linked to this error too.
Where should I look to try and understand *what* prevents kdeinit to
start? I'm not sure if this culd be a KDE 4 / TDE conflict. This is
not a production install, so I can try almost anything.
thanks for any suggestions,
Thierry
12 Nov
12 Nov
4:31 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE on Mepis Linux
Hi all,
I have been following TDE development, howeverI don't like Ubuntu's
"way of life" and Debian Squeese lacked some drivers I need, so I've
been using Squeese based Mepis 11 for the last moths (Warren finaly
put together a usable KDE 4.x desktop).
With the release of TDE 3.5.13 I decided to look if I could install it
on Mepis. I followed the instructions for Squeese and actually
everything went smoothly, except that update-initramfs failed, so I
had to run it again with -t -u
The problem I'm trying to solve is this: after reboot, I was able to
choose TDE as environment for my session. However, I get a "Could not
start kdeinit. check your installation" message. When I click "OK",
TDE seems to load correctly, but kicker crashes on me very often, some
settings can't be done (e.g. I cant change the clock, clicking on
"configure clock" crashes kicker). I don't seem to find the TDE
settings, which I would expect to be linked to this error too.
Where should I look to try and understand *what* prevents kdeinit to
start? I'm not sure if this culd be a KDE 4 / TDE conflict. This is
not a production install, so I can try almost anything.
thanks for any suggestions,
Thierry
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Can you post the Qt3 version you have installed with:
dpkg -l | grep qt-x11
Thanks!
Tim
8:37 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE on Mepis Linux
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Timothy Pearson
<kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
Can you post the Qt3 version you have installed with:
dpkg -l | grep qt-x11
Thanks!
Tim
Thank you Tim. Actually this command returns... nothing. Note that I
had to start with KDE 4 as I could not open konsole in TDE. I also
checked synaptic but there is neither a qt3 or a qt-x11 available.
Do I understand right that Mepis is missing Qt3, so Trinity can't really start?
Thierry
9:03 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE on Mepis Linux
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Werner Joss
<werner(a)hoernerfranzracing.de> wrote:
On Saturday 12 November 2011 21:37:24 Thierry de
Coulon wrote:
Writes:
ii libqt3-i18n 3:3.3.8b-7
i18n files for Qt3 library
ii libqt3-mt 3:3.3.8b-7+b1
Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3
ii libqt4-assistant 4:4.7.1-2
transitional package for Qt 4 assistant module
ii libqt4-core 4:4.7.1-2
transitional package for Qt 4 core non-GUI runtime
libraries
ii libqt4-dbus 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 D-Bus module
ii libqt4-designer 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 designer module
ii libqt4-gui 4:4.7.1-2
transitional package for Qt 4 GUI runtime libraries
ii libqt4-help 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 help module
ii libqt4-network 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 network module
ii libqt4-opengl 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 OpenGL module
ii libqt4-qt3support 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 3 compatibility library for Qt 4
ii libqt4-script 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 script module
ii libqt4-scripttools 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 script tools module
ii libqt4-sql 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 SQL module
ii libqt4-sql-mysql 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 MySQL database driver
ii libqt4-sql-sqlite 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 SQLite 3 database driver
ii libqt4-svg 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 SVG module
ii libqt4-test 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 test module
ii libqt4-webkit 4:4.7.1-2
transitional package for Qt 4 WebKit module
ii libqt4-xml 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 XML module
ii libqt4-xmlpatterns 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 XML patterns module
ii libqtassistantclient4 4.6.3-1
Qt Assistant client library (runtime)
ii libqtcore4 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 core module
ii libqtcore4-perl 4.5~~svn1145508-2
perl bindings for the Qt Core library
ii libqtgui4 4:4.7.1-2
Qt 4 GUI module
ii libqtscript4-core 0.1.0-3
Qt Script bindings for the Qt 4 Core library
ii libqtscript4-gui 0.1.0-3
Qt Script bindings for the Qt 4 Gui library
ii libqtscript4-network 0.1.0-3
Qt Script bindings for the Qt 4 Network library
ii libqtscript4-sql 0.1.0-3
Qt Script bindings for the Qt 4 SQL library
ii libqtscript4-uitools 0.1.0-3
Qt Script bindings for the Qt 4 UiTools library
ii libqtscript4-xml 0.1.0-3
Qt Script bindings for the Qt 4 XML library
ii libqtwebkit4 2.0~week26-2
Web content engine library for Qt
Thierry
Thank you Tim. Actually this command returns...
nothing
so, what does
dpkg -l | grep libqt
write ?
werner
9:09 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE on Mepis Linux
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Werner Joss
<werner(a)hoernerfranzracing.de> wrote:
<snip>
Here is your problem:
libqt3-mt 3:3.3.8b-7+b1
Upgrade your Qt3 version to 3.3.8d and your problems should disappear.
Tim
On Saturday 12 November 2011 21:37:24 Thierry de
Coulon wrote:
Writes:
ii libqt3-i18n 3:3.3.8b-7
i18n files for Qt3 library
ii libqt3-mt 3:3.3.8b-7+b1 Thank you Tim. Actually this command returns...
nothing
so, what does
dpkg -l | grep libqt
write ?
werner
10:24 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE on Mepis Linux
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Werner Joss
<werner(a)hoernerfranzracing.de> wrote:
On Saturday 12 November 2011 22:03:48 Thierry de
Coulon wrote:
Yes, and Tim says that's the problem. However there is not upgrade to
3.3.8d from apt-get (I added the sqeeze repositories and did several
apt-get upgrades. Synaptic says I have the latest available version.
As far as my google is concerned, "libqt3-mt 3.3.8d" returns "did not
match any documents". The only references to 3.38d I can find seem to
point to Trinity dev, but that does not help.
I might try building from source - if I find out where the libqt3-mt
sources are - but I have very little experience of this....
Thierry
ii libqt3-mt
3:3.3.8b-7+b1
Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3
so you do have qt3 library (latest version from tde 3.5.13 is 3.3.8d, though)
werner
10:40 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE on Mepis Linux
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Werner Joss
<werner(a)hoernerfranzracing.de> wrote:
3.3.8d for Debian Lenny and Debain Squeeze should be in the v3.5.13 archives:
https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-v3.5.13/+…
Tim
On Saturday 12 November 2011 22:03:48 Thierry de
Coulon wrote:
Yes, and Tim says that's the problem. However there is not upgrade to
3.3.8d from apt-get (I added the sqeeze repositories and did several
apt-get upgrades. Synaptic says I have the latest available version.
As far as my google is concerned, "libqt3-mt 3.3.8d" returns "did not
match any documents". The only references to 3.38d I can find seem to
point to Trinity dev, but that does not help.
I might try building from source - if I find out where the libqt3-mt
sources are - but I have very little experience of this....
ii  libqt3-mt           Â
    Â
3:3.3.8b-7+b1
        Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version),
Version 3
so you do have qt3 library (latest version from tde 3.5.13 is 3.3.8d,
though)
werner 
13 Nov
13 Nov
2:49 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE on Mepis Linux
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Thierry de Coulon <tdecoulon(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Werner Joss
Yes, and Tim says that's the problem. However there is not upgrade to
3.3.8d from apt-get (I added the sqeeze repositories and did several
apt-get upgrades. Synaptic says I have the latest available version.
As far as my google is concerned, "libqt3-mt 3.3.8d" returns "did not
match any documents". The only references to 3.38d I can find seem to
point to Trinity dev, but that does not help.
I might try building from source - if I find out where the libqt3-mt
sources are - but I have very little experience of this....
Thierry
Pardon my ignorance, but I encountered these same problems when installing
TDE on Linux Mint 11 x64 verbatim (using the Ubuntu Natty repos for TDE,
fwiw).
Did you run apt-get update first? Before apt-get upgrade? If your
repositories were not refreshed recently, the upgrade command would likely
not have any effect.
Justin
8:21 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE on Mepis Linux
On 13/11/11 02:49, Justin Soulia wrote:
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Thierry de Coulon
<tdecoulon(a)gmail.com
<mailto:tdecoulon@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Werner Joss
Yes, and Tim says that's the problem. However there is not upgrade to
3.3.8d from apt-get (I added the sqeeze repositories and did several
apt-get upgrades. Synaptic says I have the latest available version.
As far as my google is concerned, "libqt3-mt 3.3.8d" returns "did not
match any documents". The only references to 3.38d I can find seem to
point to Trinity dev, but that does not help.
I might try building from source - if I find out where the libqt3-mt
sources are - but I have very little experience of this....
Thierry
Pardon my ignorance, but I encountered these same problems when
installing TDE on Linux Mint 11 x64 verbatim (using the Ubuntu Natty
repos for TDE, fwiw).
Did you run apt-get update first? Before apt-get upgrade? If your
repositories were not refreshed recently, the upgrade command would
likely not have any effect.
Justin
Might be a situation that aptitude will not resolve. What's the output of:
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -s
? (that does a full-upgrade simulation only, without "safe-uprade"
restrictions
David
10:23 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE on Mepis Linux
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Did you run apt-get update first? Before apt-get
upgrade? If your
repositories were not refreshed recently, the upgrade command would likely
not have any effect.
Justin
Yep, I updates everything I could and double checked the repositories.
3.3.8d seems to be "Trinity-only". I'll leave a message on Mepis to
say it does work, so maybe they consider updating their reps...
although I doubt. Answers to my first inquiries as to TDE where
answered politely, but coldly. They jumped on the KDE 4 train and
don't look another way.
Thierry
8:45 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE on Mepis Linux
Le 12/11/2011 23:24, Thierry de Coulon a écrit :
Yes, and Tim says that's the problem. However
there is not upgrade to
3.3.8d from apt-get (I added the sqeeze repositories and did several
apt-get upgrades. Synaptic says I have the latest available version.
You'll have to force a "downgrade".
As root:
for f in `dpkg -l | grep 3:3.3.8-d-0ubuntu0 | awk '{print $2}'` ; do
apt-get install $f=3:3.3.8d-0ubuntu0+sr73+pr181~squeeze
done
--
Laurent Dard
10:26 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE on Mepis Linux
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Laurent Dard <f.couperin(a)online.fr> wrote:
Le 12/11/2011 23:24, Thierry de Coulon a écrit :
Thanks for the syntax. Actually I simply installed from the gui and it
worked, I assumed it just did something like dpkg -i
Thierry
Yes, and Tim says that's the problem. However
there is not upgrade to
3.3.8d from apt-get (I added the sqeeze repositories and did several
apt-get upgrades. Synaptic says I have the latest available version.
You'll have to force a "downgrade".
As root:
for f in `dpkg -l | grep 3:3.3.8-d-0ubuntu0 | awk '{print $2}'` ; do
apt-get install $f=3:3.3.8d-0ubuntu0+sr73+pr181~squeeze
done
--
Laurent Dard
11:29 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] TDE on Mepis Linux
Le 13/11/2011 11:26, Thierry de Coulon a écrit :
Actually I simply installed from the gui and it
worked, I assumed it just did something like dpkg -i
Good news. Anyway, I misunderstood your problem which
wasn't the same as mine.
--
Laurent Dard
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