On Monday 02 November 2020 22:17:12 Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:

On Mon November 2 2020 18:50:26 Gene Heskett via tde-users wrote:

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But I am left with a suspicion I might not be pulling from the latest mirror. ISTR it was moved several months back, so would someone be kind enough to paste the latest repo line to me?

Here ya go Gene:

http://trinitydesktop.org/releases/R14.0.9/

--Mike

Thanks Mike, turned out I was ok. But I just enabled the line to the linuxcnc buildbot, mostly to get the testers to see how this mobo and memory stack up on a non-real-time kernel, and it looks like its the fastest machine here, so the default kernels are getting better. I could actually run machinery from this kernel! Not that I will, but now I have a good idea for a replacement mobo for and old slow Dell thats running my biggest milling machine if that Dell ever pukes. A 1 kilocycle servo-thread shows a 4 microsecond jitter, better than any of the other 4 machines in my zoo. Asus X370 mobo, slow, very lowpower 6 core i5, 32GB of dram. I built it after the 12 yo old phenom asus board had a fire at one of the mobo usb sockets last fall.

A good realtime or RTAI kernel can beat that but not by much, this would most certainly work if it had to. I'm impressed. I do odd things just to see if it can be done, like running a 1500 lb, 80 yo Sheldon lathe with an rpi4. Probably more accurately than by hand, and 5 to 10x faster than hands turning cranks could run it in 1955. Keeps me out of the bars dontcha know. At 86 yo, I'd best stay away from those.

Take care now.

Cheers, Gene Heskett

On Tuesday 03 November 2020 00:19:06 Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:

On Mon November 2 2020 20:25:30 Gene Heskett via tde-users wrote:

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I do odd things just to see if it can be done, like running a 1500 lb, 80 yo Sheldon lathe with an rpi4. Probably more accurately than by hand, and 5 to 10x faster than hands turning cranks could run it in 1955. Keeps me out of the bars dontcha know. At 86 yo, I'd best stay away from those.

Hi Gene,

I missed engineering in high school as they were building a new building for it when I was that age. I love programming but if you ever feel like posting a few pics of your setup I'd love to see 'em. My Mum's Dad was first a master baker and then later a foreman and fitter.

--Mike

And I only got half a year as freshman, aka 9th grade, I quit because of a health problem the principle and I disagreed over, that turned out to be a food allergy when a smart intern figured it out 5 years later, and went to work at a hardware store, fixing these new fangled things called tv's. At 14 years old in '48. I wasn't being taught the algebra I was taking as the teacher was far more interested in telling the girls in class off-color jokes than he was in teaching algebra. I didn't spare the principle my opinion of that, but it went in one ear and out the other. I understand that later, that teacher was invited to leave town in the night a few months later by the father of one of the prettier girls in that class.

Been quite a list of BTDT's in my path thru life, culminating in 18 years as the CE at WDTV-5 the CBS affiliate in Bridgeport WV, and the only tech for about half of that time. A head hunter sent me here, and 15 years later his son called me to see if I was interested in takeing that chair at KTLA for about double the salary. But KTLA is in LA, so I said no. No amount of money would take me back to So. Calipornia. Wife #1 gave me 3, she had a stroke and died at 34, the two girls have passed from cancer, the boy from a jug of scotch mixed with a Kia. Wife #2 who had 3 of her own, gave me 3 more boys , left in '85, so I made it legal with #3, an old maid music teacher a month short of 31 years ago, and she is now under hospice care at a Good Sam's rest home, so I'm soon to be alone again.

As for pix, there are some on my web page in the sig, but I need to do a serious cleanup in the garage before I take any more evidence pix. Both me and #3 are packrats and it shows.

Thanks Mike. Take care and stay well now.

Cheers, Gene Heskett

On Tuesday 03 November 2020 03:55:20 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:

On Tuesday 03 of November 2020 03:50:26 Gene Heskett via tde-users

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I thought it unusual that this machine was not getting updates, while the one machine tool machine I had tde installed on was. So I looked at the repo list in synaptic and found the deb line for r14 had become unchecked. Checked it, and refreshed. That brought in 313 packages, or tried to, reporting that it wasn't successfull at pulling them all. But when it had installed what it could, I then did another refresh, but it then did not mark any more new ones. Ack the log, the server hung up on me.

Since I was then about 110 days of uptime and that many updates it needed to restart the dbus apache2 and tdm kin. I checked them, clicked fwd and was greeted by a bash login on tty1. Logged in and did a sudo reboot. A bit slower than I recall, but but a lot was changed and things seem to be running ok now.

But I am left with a suspicion I might not be pulling from the latest mirror. ISTR it was moved several months back, so would someone be kind enough to paste the latest repo line to me?

Thanks a bunch.

Cheers, Gene Heskett

It has been a long time since the layout was changed on the primary archive. As a result, the addresses for the repositories have changed. In any case, the addresses are preserved there and automatic redirects are set up so that the previous addresses in the apt sources lists are still functional.

If you have apt sources for Trinity set up using the trinity-apt-archive package, then your addresses have been automatically updated in your sources lists. But it is possible that Synaptic then considered them as new addresses and turned them off by default. I don't like these programs that change the configuration on their own :(

Cheers

That does sound like a cogent explanation. And I agree. Its taken NM over a decade to learn to leave a host file based network config alone. There for several years I was searching it out and rm'ing it before the installs reboot. Recently ahahi has been getting the same treatment. I hate knowitall software. And I certainly appreciate the stability that tde has brought to the table. My hat is off in a salute to you folks.

Thank you Slávek.

Cheers, Gene Heskett