15 Jul
2021
15 Jul
'21
6:48 p.m.
/I'm hoping this isn't related to my removal of 600Mb worth of Noto
fonts that were all foreign language characters.../
I was just in a newsgroup with Thunderbird, when an Alert box appeared.
No text appeared in the alert box, so at first, I did not know what the
alert was.
I then went into SeaMonkey into the same newsgroup and an Alert box
appeared with text, indicating what the problem was.
Is the lack of a font in the Thunderbird Alert box (attached), a TDE
setting perhaps?
Thanks in advance.
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15 Jul
15 Jul
6:53 p.m.
Also attaching current TDE fonts screen.
On 7/15/21 2:48 PM, Edward wrote:
/I'm hoping this isn't related to my removal
of 600Mb worth of Noto
fonts that were all foreign language characters.../
I was just in a newsgroup with Thunderbird, when an Alert box
appeared. No text appeared in the alert box, so at first, I did not
know what the alert was.
I then went into SeaMonkey into the same newsgroup and an Alert box
appeared with text, indicating what the problem was.
Is the lack of a font in the Thunderbird Alert box (attached), a TDE
setting perhaps?
Thanks in advance.
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6:57 p.m.
White font on white background?
Nik
Anno domini 2021 Thu, 15 Jul 14:48:12 -0400
Edward scripsit:
/I'm hoping this isn't related to my removal
of 600Mb worth of Noto
fonts that were all foreign language characters.../
I was just in a newsgroup with Thunderbird, when an Alert box appeared.
No text appeared in the alert box, so at first, I did not know what the
alert was.
I then went into SeaMonkey into the same newsgroup and an Alert box
appeared with text, indicating what the problem was.
Is the lack of a font in the Thunderbird Alert box (attached), a TDE
setting perhaps?
Thanks in advance.
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7:04 p.m.
On 7/15/21 2:57 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
White font on white background?
Nik
Anno domini 2021 Thu, 15 Jul 14:48:12 -0400
Edward scripsit:
> /I'm hoping this isn't related to my removal of 600Mb worth of Noto
> fonts that were all foreign language characters.../
>
> I was just in a newsgroup with Thunderbird, when an Alert box appeared.
> No text appeared in the alert box, so at first, I did not know what the
> alert was.
>
> I then went into SeaMonkey into the same newsgroup and an Alert box
> appeared with text, indicating what the problem was.
>
> Is the lack of a font in the Thunderbird Alert box (attached), a TDE
> setting perhaps?
>
> Thanks in advance.
I changed the window (theme?) back to the default Plastik, with the same
result (attached). So it doesn't appear to be theme-related.
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7:44 p.m.
Edward composed on 2021-07-15 15:04 (UTC-0400):
Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2021 Thu, 15 Jul 14:48:12 -0400 Edward
scripsit:
>> /I'm hoping this isn't related to my
removal of 600Mb worth of Noto
>> fonts that were all foreign language characters.../
>> I was just in a newsgroup with Thunderbird,
when an Alert box appeared.
>> No text appeared in the alert box, so at first, I did not know what the
>> alert was.
>> I then went into SeaMonkey into the same
newsgroup and an Alert box
>> appeared with text, indicating what the problem was.
>> Is the lack of a font in the Thunderbird Alert
box (attached), a TDE
>> setting perhaps?
> White font on white background?
You can probably swipe/select the popup's content to see a change in colors that
will allow it to be read.
I changed the window (theme?) back to the default
Plastik, with the same
result (attached). So it doesn't appear to be theme-related.
It's not likely about any TDE theme per se, but a styling conflict related to
GTK
theme. I use other Mozilla products, but not TB. Based upon the others' behavior,
it may be possible to inspect the contents of the window with Ctrl-Shift-I to find
out what CSS rule causes it, then create a CSS rule userChrome.css in the chrome
directory of your TB profile (which probably does not exist, as it's optional -
you'd need to create if not). Selecting/installing some other GTK theme would
probably be much easier. Both TB and SM (and FF) normally are similarly affected
by whatever your GTK theme is.
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8:08 p.m.
On 7/15/21 3:44 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
You can probably swipe/select the popup's content to see a change in colors that
will allow it to be read.
Trying to highlight the contents of the alert window did not work,
nothing highlighted at all.
CTRL-SHIFT-I also does nothing with that window.
I'm using the Baghira theme in TDE. Is there a separate GTK theme
setting somewhere else, or is what I am using, a GTK theme? The Plastik
theme also had no affect on this.
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I changed the window (theme?) back to the default
Plastik, with the same
result (attached). So it doesn't appear to be theme-related.
It's not
likely about any TDE theme per se, but a styling conflict related to GTK
theme. I use other Mozilla products, but not TB. Based upon the others' behavior,
it may be possible to inspect the contents of the window with Ctrl-Shift-I to find
out what CSS rule causes it, then create a CSS rule userChrome.css in the chrome
directory of your TB profile (which probably does not exist, as it's optional -
you'd need to create if not). Selecting/installing some other GTK theme would
probably be much easier. Both TB and SM (and FF) normally are similarly affected
by whatever your GTK theme is. 
8:17 p.m.
I'm using the Baghira theme in TDE. Is there a
separate GTK theme
setting somewhere else, or is what I am using, a GTK theme? The Plastik
theme also had no affect on this.
Thunderbird is based on GTK3, for which there is no functional TDE theme
engine. Seems like it is using the default Adwaita for the dialogs(?).
Thus it is independent from the TDE style used, be it Baghira or
Plastik. I'm not sure this is a GTK3 problem though rather than a
Thunderbird one, as both Thunderbird and SeaMonkey use GTK3 now (unless
you have a really old GTK2 version). Is there an option in Thunderbird
which would allow you to change the fonts it uses?
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9:03 p.m.
On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 16:08:51 -0400
Edward <epp(a)caramail.com> wrote:
I'm using the Baghira theme in TDE. Is there a
separate GTK theme
setting somewhere else, or is what I am using, a GTK theme? The Plastik
theme also had no affect on this.
GTK is a completely separate widget set from the TQT that TDE
uses. There are a couple of packages that try to impose your TDE
theme settings on GTK programs. If you have something like this
installed, there will be Control Center settings for it.
You may have a separate GTK theme setting somewhere, especially
if you have ever run (or your distro ships with) a GTK-based desktop
environment. I don't know what GUI tools still exist for manipulating
GTK2 themes in non-GTK environments—I remember it as being a
painful experience that drove me to the command line within an hour.
You can also control the theme of GTK2 programs directly using
a .gtkrc-2.0 file in your home directory.
E. Liddell
9:07 p.m.
I don't know what GUI tools still exist for
manipulating
GTK2 themes in non-GTK environments—I remember it as being a
painful experience that drove me to the command line within an hour.
There is LXAppearance, which has both GTK2 and GTK3 versions. Also, if
gtk2-tqt-engine is installed, the GTK theme can be set via TCC.
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9:16 p.m.
On 7/15/21 5:07 PM, Mavridis Philippe wrote:
I have Debian installed, gtk2-tqt-engine is not in their repositories.
There is a Trinity package named gtk3-tqt-engine-trinity, but I wouldn't
know if that corrects the issue. It's probably on Thunderbird's end.
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I don't
know what GUI tools still exist for manipulating
GTK2 themes in non-GTK environments—I remember it as being a
painful experience that drove me to the command line within an hour.
There is LXAppearance, which has both GTK2 and GTK3 versions. Also, if
gtk2-tqt-engine is installed, the GTK theme can be set via TCC. 
16 Jul
16 Jul
9:51 a.m.
Am Donnerstag, 15. Juli 2021 schrieb Edward:
On 7/15/21 5:07 PM, Mavridis Philippe wrote:
It's gtk-qt-engine-trinity AFAIK…
Kind regards,
Stefan
There is LXAppearance, which has both GTK2 and
GTK3 versions. Also,
if gtk2-tqt-engine is installed, the GTK theme can be set via TCC.
I have Debian installed, gtk2-tqt-engine is not in their
repositories. There is a Trinity package named
gtk3-tqt-engine-trinity, but I wouldn't know if that corrects the
issue. It's probably on Thunderbird's end. 
18 Jul
18 Jul
3:22 a.m.
New subject: [users] Fonts
On 2021-07-15 16:16:22 Edward wrote:
On 7/15/21 5:07 PM, Mavridis Philippe wrote:
I have Debian installed, gtk2-tqt-engine is not in their repositories.
There is a Trinity package named gtk3-tqt-engine-trinity, but I wouldn't
know if that corrects the issue. It's probably on Thunderbird's end.
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I
don't know what GUI tools still exist for manipulating
GTK2 themes in non-GTK environments—I remember it as being a
painful experience that drove me to the command line within an hour.
There is LXAppearance, which has both GTK2 and GTK3 versions. Also, if
gtk2-tqt-engine is installed, the GTK theme can be set via TCC.
19 Jul
19 Jul
10:02 p.m.
New subject: [users] Fonts
On 7/17/21 11:22 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2021-07-15 16:16:22 Edward wrote:
Hi Leslie,
There is a gnome-tweaks package in Debian, it's currently not installed.
I noticed that one of the 'missing' fonts on the PDF in question (which
displayed something different) is known as the MICR font in some
circles, it's the numerical (although in magnetic ink) font that appears
on the bottom of checks/cheques in some countries.
So it would appear that my Debian installation seems to be missing quite
a few fonts. I still have to remove the foreign Noto fonts on my other
desktop.
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On 7/15/21 5:07 PM, Mavridis Philippe wrote:
I have Debian
installed, gtk2-tqt-engine is not in their repositories.
There is a Trinity package named gtk3-tqt-engine-trinity, but I wouldn't
know if that corrects the issue. It's probably on Thunderbird's end.
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See if you have a program called gnome-tweaks on your system. Some Gnome
settings can be
performed there.
Leslie I
don't know what GUI tools still exist for manipulating
GTK2 themes in non-GTK environments—I remember it as being a
painful experience that drove me to the command line within an hour.
There is
LXAppearance, which has both GTK2 and GTK3 versions. Also, if
gtk2-tqt-engine is installed, the GTK theme can be set via TCC.
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