27 Jul
2016
27 Jul
'16
4:39 p.m.
Is anyone running TDE on a really old computer? (Where old is as defined
above.)
Lisi
27 Jul
27 Jul
4:48 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Old machines (Pre Pentium-Pro and earlier)
Is it possible at all?
They usually don't have more than 64-96MB of RAM, Debian won't run
easily on it.
MCbx
Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> napisał(a):
Is anyone running TDE on a really old computer?
(Where old is as
defined above.)
Lisi
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New subject: [trinity-users] Old machines (Pre Pentium-Pro and earlier)
On Wednesday 27 July 2016 17:48:41 iadest(a)o2.pl wrote:
Is it possible at all?
That is the question I am
asking!!
Lisi
They usually don't have more than 64-96MB of RAM,
Debian won't run
easily on it.
MCbx
Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> napisał(a):
Is anyone running TDE on a really old computer?
(Where old is as
defined above.)
Lisi
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9:15 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Old machines (Pre Pentium-Pro and earlier)
On Wednesday 27 July 2016 21:19:28 deloptes wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
Thanks, Deloptes. Not even Slávek's special cut-down Pi version?
Lisi
On Wednesday 27 July 2016 17:48:41 iadest(a)o2.pl
wrote:
I tried it running on raspberry 2 with 256MB of ram and it did not work. Is it possible at all?
That is the question I am asking!! 
29 Jul
29 Jul
7:57 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Old machines (Pre Pentium-Pro and earlier)
2016-07-27 22:19 GMT+02:00 deloptes <deloptes(a)gmail.com>om>:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
I ran KDE 3.5 on systems with 128MB RAM without problems. Maybe you
need to allocate some swap, but this should at least work.
I used KDE 1.x on a Cyrix 150+ which worked pretty fast. On a AMD K6-2
333MHz I remember that KDE 2 and 3 felt sluggish compared to 1, but I
do think I managed with them for a while on that system as well. I
don't think Trinity would really work on those systems. What I
remember KDE 1.x was more complete than many of the current light
weight DEs.
On Wednesday 27 July 2016 17:48:41 iadest(a)o2.pl
wrote:
I tried it running on raspberry 2 with 256MB of ram and it did not work. Is it possible at all?
That is the
question I am asking!!
7:31 p.m.
Julius Schwartzenberg wrote:
2016-07-27 22:19 GMT+02:00 deloptes
<deloptes(a)gmail.com>om>:
I just checked the raspberry yesterday - it has 512MB RAM. It has also
swap. Indeed it ran but it was so slowly that I render it unusable.
regards
Lisi Reisz wrote:
I ran KDE 3.5 on systems with 128MB RAM without problems. Maybe you
need to allocate some swap, but this should at least work.
I used KDE 1.x on a Cyrix 150+ which worked pretty fast. On a AMD K6-2
333MHz I remember that KDE 2 and 3 felt sluggish compared to 1, but I
do think I managed with them for a while on that system as well. I
don't think Trinity would really work on those systems. What I
remember KDE 1.x was more complete than many of the current light
weight DEs. On Wednesday 27 July 2016 17:48:41 iadest(a)o2.pl
wrote:
I tried it running on raspberry 2 with 256MB of ram and it did not work. Is it possible at all?
That is the
question I am asking!!
9:18 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Re: Old machines (Pre Pentium-Pro and earlier)
On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 21:31:28 +0200
deloptes <deloptes(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Julius Schwartzenberg wrote:
The difference there might be ARM vs. x86, though. I've run one of the
EXE Gnu/Linux Live CDs with TDE on an early Pentium III (550 MHz)
with about the same amount of RAM, and it was usable, although programs
were a bit slow to start. That might just be the CD drive, though.
I haven't tried it on my 486 yet (and I'd have to do something about the
busted serial port first, even if there's a compatible LiveCD). Maybe I
should, just to see how bad it would really be. ;)
E. Liddell
2016-07-27 22:19 GMT+02:00 deloptes
<deloptes(a)gmail.com>om>:
I just checked the raspberry yesterday - it has 512MB RAM. It has also
swap. Indeed it ran but it was so slowly that I render it unusable. Lisi Reisz wrote:
I ran KDE 3.5 on systems with 128MB RAM without problems. Maybe you
need to allocate some swap, but this should at least work.
I used KDE 1.x on a Cyrix 150+ which worked pretty fast. On a AMD K6-2
333MHz I remember that KDE 2 and 3 felt sluggish compared to 1, but I
do think I managed with them for a while on that system as well. I
don't think Trinity would really work on those systems. What I
remember KDE 1.x was more complete than many of the current light
weight DEs. On Wednesday 27 July 2016 17:48:41 iadest(a)o2.pl
wrote:
> Is it possible at all?
That is the question I am asking!!
I tried it running on raspberry 2 with 256MB of ram and it did not work. 
27 Jul
27 Jul
5:02 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Old machines (Pre Pentium-Pro and earlier)
Dne st 27. července 2016 Lisi Reisz napsal(a):
Is anyone running TDE on a really old computer?
(Where old is as defined
above.)
Lisi
I tested Trinity on SGI Indy and it was very difficult to use ;)
Note: Indy is this beauty - http://www.sgistuff.net/hardware/systems/indy.html
If I remember correctly, my test machine had R4600PC/100 MHz and I have put
together 64 MiB RAM.
--
Slávek
7 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] getting TDE (was: Old machines...)
Lisi Reisz composed on 2016-07-27 17:39 (UTC+0100):
Is anyone running TDE on a really old computer?
(Where old is as defined
above.)
I'm not, but as a primarily openSUSE user of other distros primarily for
various types of cross pollination and bug testing, getting TDE has always
been problematic. All the links on
https://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php
omit openSUSE, while openSUSE still offers KDE3. It's easier just to skip it
rather than to try to figure out where the download instructions that do
exist are hidden when the time comes to do a fresh installation and choose
its primary DE.
I do have multiple functioning Athlon systems with as much as 1GB RAM, and
could try adding or switching to TDE on one or more of their already
installed distros, if sufficiently motivated by reasonably accurate download
instructions.
But, there are problems with existing instructions, e.g.:
https://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases/3.5.13.1/
points to
"Official Installation Instructions for RedHat"
under the heading
"Trinity v3.5.13.1 Release Information"
but it points to
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/RedHatInstall
which is only about 14.0.x.
It's mostly good that only the current release is pointed to, but there are
reasons to have a bit more flexibility, and probably to remove obsolete links
and directions (but, like with most wikis, that breaks the PURL[1] concept
"Cool URIs don't change"[2]). As it's a wiki, I could help fix it up,
but
there's an obstacle: links to pages for setting up sources need to be
accurate, and thus verifiable, both as to their presence, and their
*absence*. The way the mirror system is set up now, redirects make that
impossible in any fashion I'm familiar with.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistent_uniform_resource_locator
[2] https://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html
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