Hi all,
I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume incerment/decremet value?
My situation is this:
kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by 10 for the PCI/USB soundcard. volume keys: change volume always by 10.
T60: kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM and it works as it should.
So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume increment/decrement value somewhere?
Nik
On 2021-05-23 16:21:05 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all,
I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume incerment/decremet value?
My situation is this:
kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by 10 for the PCI/USB soundcard. volume keys: change volume always by 10.
T60: kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM and it works as it should.
So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume increment/decrement value somewhere?
Nik
Would that be with ALSA, PulseAudio, or ?
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Anno domini 2021 Sun, 23 May 17:18:29 -0500 J Leslie Turriff scripsit:
On 2021-05-23 16:21:05 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all,
I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume incerment/decremet value?
My situation is this:
kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by 10 for the PCI/USB soundcard. volume keys: change volume always by 10.
T60: kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM and it works as it should.
So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume increment/decrement value somewhere?
Nik
Would that be with ALSA, PulseAudio, or ?
ALSA
Leslie
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said Dr. Nikolaus Klepp: | Anno domini 2021 Sun, 23 May 17:18:29 -0500 | | J Leslie Turriff scripsit: | > On 2021-05-23 16:21:05 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: | > > Hi all, | > > | > > I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume | > > incerment/decremet value? | > > | > > My situation is this: | > > | > > kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but | > > by 10 for the PCI/USB soundcard. volume keys: change volume always | > > by 10. | > > | > > T60: | > > kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM | > > and it works as it should. | > > | > > | > > So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume | > > increment/decrement value somewhere? | > > | > > Nik | > | > Would that be with ALSA, PulseAudio, or ? | | ALSA
there's the terminal-based alsamixer, or you might try this (i haven't):
https://github.com/sezanzeb/alsa-control
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On 2021/05/24 06:21 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all,
I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume incerment/decremet value?
My situation is this:
kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by 10 for the PCI/USB soundcard. volume keys: change volume always by 10.
T60: kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM and it works as it should.
So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume increment/decrement value somewhere?
Nik
Hi Nik, volume inc/dec intervals are by default 10% and 1%. ault, 1% is if you press Ctrl together with the keys to change the volume. You can customize the values by editing kmilodrc and changing the values of volumeStepFast and volumeStepSlow in the "generic monitor" section. https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdeutils/src/branch/master/k...
For some laptop model there are customized kmilo files and Thinkpad is one of them. I guess that is why you can set the increment on that machine but not on the other.
Cheers Michele
On 2021-05-23 21:04:21 Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
On 2021/05/24 06:21 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all,
I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume incerment/decremet value?
My situation is this:
kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by 10 for the PCI/USB soundcard. volume keys: change volume always by 10.
T60: kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM and it works as it should.
So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume increment/decrement value somewhere?
Nik
Hi Nik, volume inc/dec intervals are by default 10% and 1%. ault, 1% is if you press Ctrl together with the keys to change the volume. You can customize the values by editing kmilodrc and changing the values of volumeStepFast and volumeStepSlow in the "generic monitor" section. https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdeutils/src/branch/master/ kmilo/generic/generic_monitor.cpp#L133
For some laptop model there are customized kmilo files and Thinkpad is one of them. I guess that is why you can set the increment on that machine but not on the other.
Cheers Michele
kmilo? I don't find that program. | $ kmi<tab> | kmines kminspector kmix kmixctrl | @23:28:50,leslie@pinto rc=0
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J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2021-05-23 21:04:21 Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
On 2021/05/24 06:21 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all,
I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume incerment/decremet value?
My situation is this:
kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by 10 for the PCI/USB soundcard. volume keys: change volume always by 10.
T60: kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM and it works as it should.
So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume increment/decrement value somewhere?
Nik
Hi Nik, volume inc/dec intervals are by default 10% and 1%. ault, 1% is if you press Ctrl together with the keys to change the volume. You can customize the values by editing kmilodrc and changing the values of volumeStepFast and volumeStepSlow in the "generic monitor" section.
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdeutils/src/branch/master/
kmilo/generic/generic_monitor.cpp#L133
For some laptop model there are customized kmilo files and Thinkpad is one of them. I guess that is why you can set the increment on that machine but not on the other.
Cheers Michele
kmilo? I don't find that program. | $ kmi<tab> | kmines kminspector kmix kmixctrl | @23:28:50,leslie@pinto rc=0
It is not a program. It is a package
Description: laptop special keys support for Trinity KMilo lets you use the special keys on some keyboards and laptops. . Usually this includes volume keys and other features. Currently, KMilo comes with plugins for Powerbooks, Thinkpads, Vaios and generic keyboards with special keys. . This package is part of Trinity, as a component of the TDE utilities module. See the 'tde-trinity' and 'tdeutils-trinity' packages for more information.
On 2021-05-24 01:27:40 deloptes wrote:
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2021-05-23 21:04:21 Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
On 2021/05/24 06:21 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all,
I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume incerment/decremet value?
My situation is this:
kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by 10 for the PCI/USB soundcard. volume keys: change volume always by 10.
T60: kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM and it works as it should.
So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume increment/decrement value somewhere?
Nik
Hi Nik, volume inc/dec intervals are by default 10% and 1%. ault, 1% is if you press Ctrl together with the keys to change the volume. You can customize the values by editing kmilodrc and changing the values of volumeStepFast and volumeStepSlow in the "generic monitor" section.
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdeutils/src/branch/master/
kmilo/generic/generic_monitor.cpp#L133
For some laptop model there are customized kmilo files and Thinkpad is one of them. I guess that is why you can set the increment on that machine but not on the other.
Cheers Michele
kmilo? I don't find that program.
| $ kmi<tab> | kmines kminspector kmix kmixctrl | @23:28:50,leslie@pinto rc=0
It is not a program. It is a package
Description: laptop special keys support for Trinity KMilo lets you use the special keys on some keyboards and laptops. . Usually this includes volume keys and other features. Currently, KMilo comes with plugins for Powerbooks, Thinkpads, Vaios and generic keyboards with special keys. . This package is part of Trinity, as a component of the TDE utilities module. See the 'tde-trinity' and 'tdeutils-trinity' packages for more information.
Is there (maybe in the Wiki) a cross-reference list showing what components and/or packages contain what programs?
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J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Is there (maybe in the Wiki) a cross-reference list showing what components and/or packages contain what programs?
Again - it is not a program or set of programs but a package. Here is the content. (I do not have the legacy package installed, but it handles perfectly well the multimedia keys on my keyboard also on the notbooks)
$ dpkg -L kmilo-trinity /. /opt /opt/trinity /opt/trinity/lib /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1.0.0 /opt/trinity/lib/trinity /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kded_kmilod.la /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kded_kmilod.so /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.la /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.so /opt/trinity/share /opt/trinity/share/services /opt/trinity/share/services/kded /opt/trinity/share/services/kded/kmilod.desktop /opt/trinity/share/services/kmilo /opt/trinity/share/services/kmilo/kmilo_generic.desktop /opt/trinity/share/servicetypes /opt/trinity/share/servicetypes/kmilo /opt/trinity/share/servicetypes/kmilo/kmilopluginsvc.desktop /usr /usr/share /usr/share/doc /usr/share/doc/kmilo-trinity /usr/share/doc/kmilo-trinity/changelog.Debian.gz /usr/share/doc/kmilo-trinity/copyright /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1
On Monday 24 May 2021 08.47:30 deloptes wrote:
Again - it is not a program or set of programs but a package.
While reading this, I wondered if kmilo could be responsible for the F2 key not working in LibreOffice (should let me edit formulas, doesn't). But that's not my point.
I tried to uninstall it, but it wants to remove tde-trinity...
Thierry
Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:
While reading this, I wondered if kmilo could be responsible for the F2 key not working in LibreOffice (should let me edit formulas, doesn't). But that's not my point.
I am not sure about it, but most likely it is not responsible, because it handles the special keys (multimedia, brightness etc.)
I tried to uninstall it, but it wants to remove tde-trinity...
this is OK, because tde-trinity is meta package that depends on kmilo. You could uninstall, test and reinstall tde-trinity
Anno domini 2021 Mon, 24 May 09:08:28 +0200 Thierry de Coulon via tde-users scripsit:
On Monday 24 May 2021 08.47:30 deloptes wrote:
Again - it is not a program or set of programs but a package.
While reading this, I wondered if kmilo could be responsible for the F2 key not working in LibreOffice (should let me edit formulas, doesn't). But that's not my point.
Don't think so. It binds to these keys: https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdeutils/src/branch/master/k...
I had the "keys-doe-interesting-stuff" some years ago with vlc, but never could track it down. Starting with a clean user profile solved it, bit I don't know if purging all GTK configs would also do the trick.
nik
I tried to uninstall it, but it wants to remove tde-trinity...
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On 2021-05-24 01:47:30 deloptes wrote:
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Is there (maybe in the Wiki) a cross-reference list showing what components and/or packages contain what programs?
Again - it is not a program or set of programs but a package. Here is the content. (I do not have the legacy package installed, but it handles perfectly well the multimedia keys on my keyboard also on the notbooks)
The reason I asked is because, while it's easy to find a file if one knows the package, it's hard to find the package just knowing the file.
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J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2021-05-24 01:47:30 deloptes wrote:
...
The reason I asked is because, while it's easy to find a file if one knows the package, it's hard to find the package just knowing the file.
It is not sooo hard. For example if I want to find the package providing
/opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1
I would
$ dpkg -S /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1 kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1
The main problem is to know where to look for.
Also note that the legacy package is to be used only for specific models and can cause issues. I wouldn't use it unless I have some of the specified models.
apt-cache show kmilo-legacy-trinity ... In Debian the intention is that all laptops work with the generic kmilo plugin, if you need this package please file a bug. . ...
On 2021-05-25 03:20:01 deloptes wrote:
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2021-05-24 01:47:30 deloptes wrote:
...
The reason I asked is because, while it's easy to find a file if one knows the package, it's hard to find the package just knowing the file.
It is not sooo hard. For example if I want to find the package providing
/opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1
I would
$ dpkg -S /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1 kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1
The main problem is to know where to look for.
Also note that the legacy package is to be used only for specific models and can cause issues. I wouldn't use it unless I have some of the specified models.
apt-cache show kmilo-legacy-trinity ... In Debian the intention is that all laptops work with the generic kmilo plugin, if you need this package please file a bug.
"The main problem is to know where to look for." Um, that's what I said.
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On 2021-05-24 01:47:30 deloptes wrote:
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Is there (maybe in the Wiki) a cross-reference list showing what components and/or packages contain what programs?
Again - it is not a program or set of programs but a package. Here is the content. (I do not have the legacy package installed, but it handles perfectly well the multimedia keys on my keyboard also on the notbooks)
And I see now that it's related to laptop stuff, which is probably why I never noticed it. zypper tells me, | i | trinity-kmilo | Laptop special keys support for Trinity | package
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Am Montag, 24. Mai 2021 schrieb J Leslie Turriff:
Is there (maybe in the Wiki) a cross-reference list showing what components and/or packages contain what programs?
On a Devuan system this is a method to find the package in which a file/program is distributed:
$ apt-file search kmilo # (output trimmed) kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1 kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1.0.0 kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kded_kmilod.la kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kded_kmilod.so kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.la kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.so kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/share/services/kded/kmilod.desktop kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/share/services/kmilo/kmilo_generic.desktop kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/share/servicetypes/kmilo/kmilopluginsvc.desktop kmilo-trinity: /usr/share/doc/kmilo-trinity/changelog.Debian.gz kmilo-trinity: /usr/share/doc/kmilo-trinity/copyright
There might be a similar tool in OpenSUSE.
HTH
Kind Regards, Stefan
On 2021-05-24 02:07:41 Stefan Krusche via tde-users wrote:
Am Montag, 24. Mai 2021 schrieb J Leslie Turriff:
Is there (maybe in the Wiki) a cross-reference list showing what components and/or packages contain what programs?
On a Devuan system this is a method to find the package in which a file/program is distributed:
$ apt-file search kmilo # (output trimmed) kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1 kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/libkmilo.so.1.0.0 kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kded_kmilod.la kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kded_kmilod.so kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.la kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kmilo_generic.so kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/share/services/kded/kmilod.desktop kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/share/services/kmilo/kmilo_generic.desktop kmilo-trinity: /opt/trinity/share/servicetypes/kmilo/kmilopluginsvc.desktop kmilo-trinity: /usr/share/doc/kmilo-trinity/changelog.Debian.gz kmilo-trinity: /usr/share/doc/kmilo-trinity/copyright
There might be a similar tool in OpenSUSE.
HTH
Kind Regards, Stefan
That would be | ● zypper search --installed-only kmilo | Loading repository data... | Reading installed packages... | | S | Name | Summary | Type | ---+--------------------------------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------- | i | trinity-kmilo | Laptop special keys support for Trinity | package | i+ | trinity-kmilo-debuginfo | Debug information for package trinity-kmilo | package | i | trinity-kmilo-legacy | Non-standard plugins for KMilo | package | i+ | trinity-kmilo-legacy-debuginfo | Debug information for package trinity-kmilo-legacy | package | @03:07:21,root@pinto rc=0
Leslie
Anno domini 2021 Mon, 24 May 11:04:21 +0900 Michele Calgaro via tde-users scripsit:
On 2021/05/24 06:21 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all,
I just ran into this again: Where can I change the volume incerment/decremet value?
My situation is this:
kmix: mousewheel changes volume by 5 for the onboard soundcard, but by 10 for the PCI/USB soundcard. volume keys: change volume always by 10.
T60: kmix & volume keys: I can set the inc/dec value kcontrol/system/IBM and it works as it should.
So ... is there a way for non-thinkpads to set the volume increment/decrement value somewhere?
Nik
Hi Nik, volume inc/dec intervals are by default 10% and 1%. ault, 1% is if you press Ctrl together with the keys to change the volume. You can customize the values by editing kmilodrc and changing the values of volumeStepFast and volumeStepSlow in the "generic monitor" section. https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdeutils/src/branch/master/k...
For some laptop model there are customized kmilo files and Thinkpad is one of them. I guess that is why you can set the increment on that machine but not on the other.
Hi Michele,
I have kmilo-trinity 14.1.0 installed. In the binary I find "volumeStep", but not "volumeStepFast" or "volumeStepSlow". And I did a dist-upgrade yesterday.
Pressing <ctrl>+<voldown> decreases by one, but <ctrl>+<volup> brings up the volume OSD, but does nothing.
Should I revert back to 14.0.x ?
This is my ~/.trinity/share/config/kmilodrc:
[DefaultSkin] Font=Sans,10,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0 ProgressFont=Sans,8,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0 Size=80,30 paletteBackgroundColor=100,100,100 paletteForegroundColor=200,200,200
[thinkpad] buttonHome=/opt/trinity/bin/konqueror buttonMail=/opt/trinity/bin/kmail buttonSearch=/opt/trinity/bin/kfind buttonThinkpad=/opt/trinity/bin/konsole buttonZoom=/opt/trinity/bin/ksnapshot run=true softwareVolume=false volumeStep=1
Nik
Cheers Michele
On 2021/05/24 04:02 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
I have kmilo-trinity 14.1.0 installed. In the binary I find "volumeStep", but not "volumeStepFast" or "volumeStepSlow". And I did a dist-upgrade yesterday.
Pressing <ctrl>+<voldown> decreases by one, but <ctrl>+<volup> brings up the volume OSD, but does nothing.
Should I revert back to 14.0.x ?
Hi Nik,
I don't think you need to revert back, it must be a matter of keyboard shortcut settings. You just need to find the one using that key combination.
Cheers Michele
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