Hello! :-)
I installed Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit Alternate (command line only) and I'd like to install Trinity's nightly builds on it. But I can't install them because of a missing dependency : ttf-bitstream-vera. ttf-bitstream-vera is included in hardy, maverick, natty and oneiric, but not in lucid. (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-bitstream-vera)
Output : -------- alex@schreiberstein:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-trinity ... The following packages have unmet dependencies: kubuntu-desktop-trinity: Depends: ttf-bitstream-vera but it is not installable Recommends: kubuntu-docs-trinity but it is not installable Recommends: networkstatus-trinity but it is not installable Recommends: openoffice.org-trinity but it is not installable Recommends: skim but it is not going to be installed Recommends: system-config-printer-kde-trinity but it is not installable Recommends: plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo-trinity but it is not installable E: Broken packages --------
Could you please fix it?
btw. Trinity ROCKS! It's soo amazing! Thanks for keeping KDE3 alive!!
Greetings from germany :
Alex
Hello! :-)
I installed Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit Alternate (command line only) and I'd like to install Trinity's nightly builds on it. But I can't install them because of a missing dependency : ttf-bitstream-vera. ttf-bitstream-vera is included in hardy, maverick, natty and oneiric, but not in lucid. (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-bitstream-vera)
Output :
alex@schreiberstein:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-trinity ... The following packages have unmet dependencies: kubuntu-desktop-trinity: Depends: ttf-bitstream-vera but it is not installable Recommends: kubuntu-docs-trinity but it is not installable Recommends: networkstatus-trinity but it is not installable Recommends: openoffice.org-trinity but it is not installable Recommends: skim but it is not going to be installed Recommends: system-config-printer-kde-trinity but it is not installable Recommends: plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo-trinity but it is not installable E: Broken packages
Could you please fix it?
btw. Trinity ROCKS! It's soo amazing! Thanks for keeping KDE3 alive!!
Greetings from germany :
Alex
ttf-bitstream-vera has been uploaded to the Lucid repository and should be available for use within 24 to 48 hours.
Thanks for your encouragement!
Tim
On 2011/09/27 00:52 (GMT-0500) Timothy Pearson composed:
I installed Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit Alternate (command line only) and I'd like to install Trinity's nightly builds on it. But I can't install them because of a missing dependency : ttf-bitstream-vera. ttf-bitstream-vera is included in hardy, maverick, natty and oneiric, but not in lucid. (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-bitstream-vera)
ttf-bitstream-vera has been uploaded to the Lucid repository and should be available for use within 24 to 48 hours.
That's a bizarre dependency. DejaVu is a modern, supported and heavily maintained superset of the anachronism that is Vera, so as long as DejaVu is installed or installable, Vera should be not be required.
On Tuesday 27 September 2011 07:39:44 Felix Miata wrote:
That's a bizarre dependency. DejaVu is a modern, supported and heavily maintained superset of the anachronism that is Vera, so as long as DejaVu is installed or installable, Vera should be not be required. --
Yes. But from some points of view DejaVu is not as "good". It will be a sad day when Bitstream Vera is unavailable because it is considered an anachronism.
Lisi
On 2011/09/27 07:54 (GMT+0100) Lisi composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
That's a bizarre dependency. DejaVu is a modern, supported and heavily maintained superset of the anachronism that is Vera, so as long as DejaVu is installed or installable, Vera should be not be required.
Yes. But from some points of view DejaVu is not as "good".
Do you have anything to document that? Do you know what superset means? DejaVu's available charset is vastly larger, and continues to grow, since it's FOSS and under constant development.
It will be a sad day when Bitstream Vera is unavailable because it is considered an anachronism.
It's an anachronism because it's development ceased years ago. I've not installed it on any system in several years. Few if any would be able to detect any difference between http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Font/font-vera.html loaded on a Vera-only system and a DejaVu-only system.
On Tuesday 27 September 2011 08:19:52 Felix Miata wrote:
Yes. But from some points of view DejaVu is not as "good".
Do you have anything to document that?
It doesn't need documenting. I live with it every day. I am partially sighted and I find Bitstream Vera easier to read. I agree that the difference is small, but it is none-the-less there. And I doubt that I am alone.
If you would argue that there is no difference, then what is the problem?
Do you know what superset means?
What has that got to do with legibility?
DejaVu's available charset is vastly larger, and continues to grow, since it's FOSS and under constant development.
Why is bigger "better" from every point of view? Yes, if you want obscure characters it may well be "better". But what is to stop you having both? I have, and have done so for several years now.
You could perhaps argue with some justification that a larger character set would be more appropriate for a dependancy. But obsolescence is irrelevant if something is better for the job in hand, and anachronism is an inappropriate word for something that is still used.
Lisi
On 2011/09/27 08:42 (GMT+0100) Lisi composed:
You could perhaps argue with some justification that a larger character set would be more appropriate for a dependancy. But obsolescence is irrelevant if something is better for the job in hand, and anachronism is an inappropriate word for something that is still used.
This thread is about dependency. Dependence on Vera is an obsolete anachronism. Using it if available isn't.
On Tuesday 27 September 2011 09:14:12 Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/09/27 08:42 (GMT+0100) Lisi composed:
You could perhaps argue with some justification that a larger character set would be more appropriate for a dependancy. But obsolescence is irrelevant if something is better for the job in hand, and anachronism is an inappropriate word for something that is still used.
This thread is about dependency. Dependence on Vera is an obsolete anachronism. Using it if available isn't.
Touché.
Lisi
ttf-bitstream-vera has been uploaded to the Lucid repository and should be available for use within 24 to 48 hours.
Hello Tim! Thanks for your effort!
But now I'm getting this :
Output : -------- alex@schreiberstein:~$ sudo apt-get update ... Get:1 http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net lucid/main Packages [46.8kB] Hit http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net lucid/main Sources Hit http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net lucid/main Packages Get:2 http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net lucid/main Sources [17.0kB] Fetched 17.0kB in 6s (2467B/s) W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-build-dep... Hash Sum mismatch
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. --------
I'm looking forward to use Trinity :-) (No GUI atm.) Alex
On Sep 29, 2011, at 9:32, Schreiberstein schreiberstein@googlemail.com wrote:
ttf-bitstream-vera has been uploaded to the Lucid repository and should be available for use within 24 to 48 hours.
Hello Tim! Thanks for your effort!
But now I'm getting this :
Output :
alex@schreiberstein:~$ sudo apt-get update ... Get:1 http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net lucid/main Packages [46.8kB] Hit http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net lucid/main Sources Hit http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net lucid/main Packages Get:2 http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net lucid/main Sources [17.0kB] Fetched 17.0kB in 6s (2467B/s) W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-build-dep... Hash Sum mismatch
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
I'm looking forward to use Trinity :-) (No GUI atm.) Alex
Try, try again ;)
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