Hi,
I'd like my bash session to receive shift-right & shift-left, but konsole (or any global trinity shortcut) seems to intercept them. I've search everywhere I could and didn't find anything to fix it.
Is there a way to know which app or function is mapper to these shortcuts?
How can I have a complete list of global shortcuts?
Thanks, Nicolas
said Nicolas Bercher: | Hi, | | I'd like my bash session to receive shift-right & shift-left, but | konsole (or any global trinity shortcut) seems to intercept them. | I've search everywhere I could and didn't find anything to fix | it. | | Is there a way to know which app or function is mapper to these | shortcuts? | | How can I have a complete list of global shortcuts?
there used to be a module in kcontrol that let you decide the pecking order for these things. glancing there right now, i do not see it, but i'm not entirely certain where it lived -- i never used it, and kde sometimes organized things in nonintuitive places.
Konsole -> Settings -> Configure Shortcuts
Its ctrl+shift <-> for good reason but you can change this behavior :-)
You're welcome
--- On Sun, 2/24/13, Nicolas Bercher nbercher@yahoo.fr wrote:
From: Nicolas Bercher nbercher@yahoo.fr Subject: [trinity-users] konsole: how do I pass shift-right & shift-left to the shell? To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Received: Sunday, February 24, 2013, 10:03 AM
Hi,
I'd like my bash session to receive shift-right & shift-left, but konsole (or any global trinity shortcut) seems to intercept them. I've search everywhere I could and didn't find anything to fix it.
Is there a way to know which app or function is mapper to these shortcuts?
How can I have a complete list of global shortcuts?
Thanks, Nicolas
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On 24/02/2013 17:27, Jay L. Klepacs wrote:
Konsole -> Settings -> Configure Shortcuts
Its ctrl+shift <-> for good reason but you can change this behavior :-)
You're welcome
Hi, thanks for your answer. Of course I've tried this, but nothing seems in conflict with what I want to do, still shift-{left,right} is not passed to the shell.
You'll find a screenshot of my Konsole shortcut settings window, the shortcuts are sorted by value of keys assignment such as you see all assignments:
Can someone tell me if I can grep against ~/.kde files to search for shortcuts definitions, etc.? Any help would be more than appreciated.
Nicolas
I don't see that you've changed it to Shift+Right and Shift+Left, and yes, you can always grep for stuff but I don't think it's needed, but in your casevmaybe do a "find . -type f -exec grep -l Ctrl {} ;" in your home directory and/or just have a peek thru ~/.bash* /etc/environment (if there is one) and /etc/profile, but by the looks of it, you just need to simply change Konsole settings from Ctrl-Maj+Right and Ctrl-Maj+Right to Shift+Right and Shift+Left like my previous post instructed, and your good-to-go.
Hope this helps.
--- On Sun, 3/10/13, Nicolas Bercher nbercher@yahoo.fr wrote:
From: Nicolas Bercher nbercher@yahoo.fr Subject: Re: [trinity-users] konsole: how do I pass shift-right & shift-left to the shell? To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Received: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 7:19 AM
On 24/02/2013 17:27, Jay L. Klepacs wrote:
Konsole -> Settings -> Configure Shortcuts
Its ctrl+shift <-> for good reason but you can change this behavior :-)
You're welcome
Hi, thanks for your answer. Of course I've tried this, but nothing seems in conflict with what I want to do, still shift-{left,right} is not passed to the shell.
You'll find a screenshot of my Konsole shortcut settings window, the shortcuts are sorted by value of keys assignment such as you see all assignments:
Can someone tell me if I can grep against ~/.kde files to search for shortcuts definitions, etc.? Any help would be more than appreciated.
Nicolas
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On 10/03/2013 16:03, Jay L. Klepacs wrote:
I don't see that you've changed it to Shift+Right and Shift+Left, and yes, you can always grep for stuff but I don't think it's needed, but in your casevmaybe do a "find . -type f -exec grep -l Ctrl {} ;" in your home directory and/or just have a peek thru ~/.bash* /etc/environment (if there is one) and /etc/profile, but by the looks of it, you just need to simply change Konsole settings from Ctrl-Maj+Right and Ctrl-Maj+Right to Shift+Right and Shift+Left like my previous post instructed, and your good-to-go.
I think you misunderstood my request: I want to pass shift-{left,right} shortcuts to the shell, indeed to emacs/org-mode running under Konsole.
So the trick would be to find where these shortcuts are intercepted between Konsole/Trinity/Xorg and disable them. So it is normal that Konsole is not configured to handle shift-{left,right} shortcuts.
Passing shift-{left,right} to emacs works on a various terminal flavors including gnome-terminal & xterm under gnome (I should test them under Trinity as well!), wmii terminal, tty, osso-xterm under Maemo, etc.
Nicolas
On Tuesday 26 March 2013, Nicolas Bercher wrote:
I think you misunderstood my request: I want to pass shift-{left,right} shortcuts to the shell, indeed to emacs/org-mode running under Konsole.
So the trick would be to find where these shortcuts are intercepted between Konsole/Trinity/Xorg and disable them. So it is normal that Konsole is not configured to handle shift-{left,right} shortcuts.
Passing shift-{left,right} to emacs works on a various terminal flavors including gnome-terminal & xterm under gnome (I should test them under Trinity as well!), wmii terminal, tty, osso-xterm under Maemo, etc.
I've just found in Konsole -> Settings -> Configure Shortcuts ...
There you find Shift+Left and Shift+Left connected to Next - and Previous Session. Should work if you undefine them?!
Gerhard
On 26/03/2013 20:00, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
On Tuesday 26 March 2013, Nicolas Bercher wrote:
I think you misunderstood my request: I want to pass shift-{left,right} shortcuts to the shell, indeed to emacs/org-mode running under Konsole.
So the trick would be to find where these shortcuts are intercepted between Konsole/Trinity/Xorg and disable them. So it is normal that Konsole is not configured to handle shift-{left,right} shortcuts.
Passing shift-{left,right} to emacs works on a various terminal flavors including gnome-terminal& xterm under gnome (I should test them under Trinity as well!), wmii terminal, tty, osso-xterm under Maemo, etc.
I've just found in Konsole -> Settings -> Configure Shortcuts ...
There you find Shift+Left and Shift+Left connected to Next - and Previous Session. Should work if you undefine them?!
That's already done:
But I have to test other X terminal apps to see if it is related to Konsole only or to Trinity + Konsole or Trinity.
Nicolas
On 26/03/2013 16:06, Nicolas Bercher wrote:
Passing shift-{left,right} to emacs works on a various terminal flavors including gnome-terminal & xterm under gnome (I should test them under Trinity as well!), wmii terminal, tty, osso-xterm under Maemo, etc.
Konsole under wmii gave the same issue: shift-{right,left} are not passed to the shell.
So I have to figure out why konsole is intercepting a shortcut that is ot configured and that it shouldn't use.
Nicolas
this is very strange on both machines that i have just upgraded< keyboard and mouse input arevery strange (for instance, that was supposed to be a comma above). it is intermittent. caps lock comes on for no reason and does not show on the keyboard as caps lock. by hitting caps lock (and lighting the caps lock light) i get lower case -- but not for all characters. some keys do not register without going back and hitting them again. occasionally (until i turned off repeat), the space bar would go on spacing forever until i hit backspace.
likewise, the mouse pointer sometimes works just fine but other times when i click it it selects everything from where i was to where it is, and there's no getting it to do otherwise.
i would think it's just a bad keyboard, but this is happening on two different machines in two different locations. the only change i can think of is the upgrade to 3.5.13.2.
have i misconfigured something?
tia for any advice less draconian than total reinstall!
On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, dep wrote:
this is very strange on both machines that i have just upgraded< keyboard and mouse input arevery strange (for instance, that was supposed to be a comma above). it is intermittent. caps lock comes on for no reason and does not show on the keyboard as caps lock. by hitting caps lock (and lighting the caps lock light) i get lower case -- but not for all characters. some keys do not register without going back and hitting them again. occasionally (until i turned off repeat), the space bar would go on spacing forever until i hit backspace.
likewise, the mouse pointer sometimes works just fine but other times when i click it it selects everything from where i was to where it is, and there's no getting it to do otherwise.
Nothing like that here on Ubuntu 10.04 with a fully updated/upgraded Trinity 3.5.13.2 -- using Slavek's repositories.
No much help, I know. Jonesy
said Marvin L Jones: | On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, dep wrote: | >this is very strange on both machines that i have just upgraded< | >keyboard and mouse input arevery strange (for instance, that was | >supposed to be a comma above). it is intermittent. caps lock comes | > on for no reason and does not show on the keyboard as caps lock. | > by hitting caps lock (and lighting the caps lock light) i get | > lower case -- but not for all characters. some keys do not | > register without going back and hitting them again. occasionally | > (until i turned off repeat), the space bar would go on spacing | > forever until i hit backspace. | > | >likewise, the mouse pointer sometimes works just fine but other | > times when i click it it selects everything from where i was to | > where it is, and there's no getting it to do otherwise. | | Nothing like that here on Ubuntu 10.04 with a fully | updated/upgraded Trinity 3.5.13.2 -- using Slavek's repositories. | | No much help, I know. | Jonesy
this is really strange. following a reboot, things seem okay again, but then it starts up and goes to the point where everything is unusable. this with (k)ubuntu 12.04.
not accusing TDE -- i try to keep current on all upgrades, so some other "fix" might be to blame. just thought there might be a changed default or something that i needed to reconfigure.
this is really strange. following a reboot, things seem okay again, but then it starts up and goes to the point where everything is unusable. this with (k)ubuntu 12.04.
not accusing TDE -- i try to keep current on all upgrades, so some other "fix" might be to blame. just thought there might be a changed default or something that i needed to reconfigure.
You'd better do a complete reinstall and purge your .trinity folder. I had a simillar thing on debian squeeze 2 (?) years ago. I never found out what caused the "remapping". The only cure was a vomplete reistallation (and double checking that no KDE4 packages got installed in the first place - but that's not imortant any more, at least on wheezy).
Nik
said Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp: | > this is really strange. following a reboot, things seem okay | > again, but then it starts up and goes to the point where | > everything is unusable. this with (k)ubuntu 12.04. | > | > not accusing TDE -- i try to keep current on all upgrades, so | > some other "fix" might be to blame. just thought there might be a | > changed default or something that i needed to reconfigure. | | You'd better do a complete reinstall and purge your .trinity | folder. I had a simillar thing on debian squeeze 2 (?) years ago. I | never found out what caused the "remapping". The only cure was a | vomplete reistallation (and double checking that no KDE4 packages | got installed in the first place - but that's not imortant any | more, at least on wheezy).
one hopes there's a more subtle solution!
On 04/02/2013 09:53 AM, dep wrote:
said Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp: | You'd better do a complete reinstall and purge your .trinity | folder.
one hopes there's a more subtle solution!
Might try moving or deleting the .trinity folder first. If it's a Trinity configuration problem, that might take care of it.
said Dan Youngquist:
| Might try moving or deleting the .trinity folder first. If it's a | Trinity configuration problem, that might take care of it.
thanks. actually, you sparked me to go check my ~dot-directories to make sure there was nothing that night be conflicting. i detected a couple of possibilities in the form of old .kde/ i'd saved for reversion if upgrades didn't go well. renamed 'em, rebooted, and so far the symptoms are gone. (though they were never present right at first after a reboot.) fingers are crossed. i've kept my desktop pretty much the same for about a decade, so i know how to make it back into what i like, but i've never enjoyed it and would just as soon not do it again!
anyway, you tapped the lightbulb and made it go on. thanks!
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