On Thursday 03 September 2020 07:14:17 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
I sent this email earlier, but since I didn't receive my usual copy sent to myself, it seemed that it never made it to the outside world.
And then there was a mildy amusing incident, and a few hours of creeping panic, but I don't want to spoil the story, so I save it for its proper place.
On Wednesday 02 September 2020 13:35:32 Janek Stolarek wrote:
Three things:
- Like others have already said, you need to enable access by unsafe
apps in Gmail account settings. See [1].
- In KMail POP3 settings you might need to prefix you POP3 username
with "recent:" (without quotes but with colon), so for example in
KMail
settings
my username is entered as "recent:jwstolarek@gmail.com" (again,
without
quotes). This enables checking email by multiple mail clients (in case you have several machines). See [2]. Moreover, for me without the "recent:" prefix, instead of having access to newest emails as they come in, I would only see email in a batch every few hours.
Here is what I originally wrote:
Whoa! That is one cool trick! It might be general knowledge for some,
but
it's
news to me, and I never found anything like that among suggestions in
Gmail's
pages, nor on other sites who offer advice on how to for Gmail. (Doesn't
work
on Zoho mail, however; just thought I'd give it a try.) At least I managed
to
clear all the old emails off the server.
- Contrary to what other said, I rarely have problems caused by
logining in from different locations. I regularly use VPN so sometimes I'll be checking my email from Switzerland and 5 minutes later I'm checking it
from
Canada. I have no problems in overwhelming majority of cases.
Yeah, I was beginning to feel like some kind of shiftless [or maybe
shifty?]*
pariah, banned from Google periodically, because I have moved from my home
to
the library, 15 minutes' walk from here.
Janek
[1] https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en [2] https://support.google.com/a/answer/6089246?hl=en
Thanks for the tip!
Bill
P.S. After I implemented this change in my Gmail accounts [see above], suddenly my wifi was disabled. I spent a few hours last night, then
again
this morning, trying in vain to get it back. Then it seemed that my
eth0,
as well, wasn't recognized! How can that be?
I even started the process of reinstalling my Devuan Beowulf (a pain,
but
it's
much quicker now than it was when running Jessie); during setup nothing in
my
network was recognized! Hardware failure?!?! Then I tried some rescue discs and other such tools; again, nothing happening.
The only thing I had done was to change that line in Gmail, then to
check
email. Could Google really be such a Big Brother gangsta that they would deliberately destroy my wireless and ethernet connections?
Those jive %@! >?$#~!!!!
At last I check my wifi antenna. (I know, it's weird to use a wifi antenna
for
a desktop computer, but I built this system out of parts.) As it turns out, somehow the USB got unplugged from the antenna itself, which is
odd,
because I actually have it clamped in place, to make sure that cannot happen. I can only imagine that I must have stepped on a wire when
moving
round the stand that holds my printer; maybe just enough pressure to
pull
it loose.
Well, so the moral of this story is, never let your paranoia decide the
cause
of bad experiences, when your own clumsiness or stupidity can explain
it.
P.P.S. *It occurs to me that whether one is "shiftless" [unmotivated, lazy] or "shifty" [nervous, acting guilty, moving round too much, no fixed abode, etc.], both are bad. So is it better to be shifty or shiftless, or should
one
avoid this word altogether?
Bill
You clearly missed the obvious conclusion and, likely, the correct answer. Science, dear boy, science. Gnomes, trolls and germlins. Clearly you have an infestation.
Kate
No, that seems unlikely, as I always leave out food and drink for the
blessed
folk, and we have always had a very reciprocal relationship.
I prefer to believe that the Men in Black are after me. That seems a more plausible explanation.
Bill
True. Sound and sane reasoning.
Kate
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On Thursday 03 September 2020 07:26:29 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
On Thursday 03 September 2020 07:14:17 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
I sent this email earlier, but since I didn't receive my usual copy sent to myself, it seemed that it never made it to the outside world.
And then there was a mildy amusing incident, and a few hours of creeping panic, but I don't want to spoil the story, so I save it for its proper place.
On Wednesday 02 September 2020 13:35:32 Janek Stolarek wrote:
Three things:
- Like others have already said, you need to enable access by
unsafe apps in Gmail account settings. See [1].
- In KMail POP3 settings you might need to prefix you POP3
username with "recent:" (without quotes but with colon), so for example in
KMail
settings
my username is entered as "recent:jwstolarek@gmail.com" (again,
without
quotes). This enables checking email by multiple mail clients (in case you have several machines). See [2]. Moreover, for me without the "recent:" prefix, instead of having access to newest emails as they come in, I would only see email in a batch every few hours.
Here is what I originally wrote:
Whoa! That is one cool trick! It might be general knowledge for some,
but
it's
news to me, and I never found anything like that among suggestions in
Gmail's
pages, nor on other sites who offer advice on how to for Gmail. (Doesn't
work
on Zoho mail, however; just thought I'd give it a try.) At least I managed
to
clear all the old emails off the server.
- Contrary to what other said, I rarely have problems caused by
logining in from different locations. I regularly use VPN so sometimes I'll be checking my email from Switzerland and 5 minutes later I'm checking it
from
Canada. I have no problems in overwhelming majority of cases.
Yeah, I was beginning to feel like some kind of shiftless [or maybe
shifty?]*
pariah, banned from Google periodically, because I have moved from my home
to
the library, 15 minutes' walk from here.
Janek
[1] https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en [2] https://support.google.com/a/answer/6089246?hl=en
Thanks for the tip!
Bill
P.S. After I implemented this change in my Gmail accounts [see above], suddenly my wifi was disabled. I spent a few hours last night, then
again
this morning, trying in vain to get it back. Then it seemed that my
eth0,
as well, wasn't recognized! How can that be?
I even started the process of reinstalling my Devuan Beowulf (a pain,
but
it's
much quicker now than it was when running Jessie); during setup nothing in
my
network was recognized! Hardware failure?!?! Then I tried some rescue discs and other such tools; again, nothing happening.
The only thing I had done was to change that line in Gmail, then to
check
email. Could Google really be such a Big Brother gangsta that they would deliberately destroy my wireless and ethernet connections?
Those jive %@! >?$#~!!!!
At last I check my wifi antenna. (I know, it's weird to use a wifi antenna
for
a desktop computer, but I built this system out of parts.) As it turns out, somehow the USB got unplugged from the antenna itself, which is
odd,
because I actually have it clamped in place, to make sure that cannot happen. I can only imagine that I must have stepped on a wire when
moving
round the stand that holds my printer; maybe just enough pressure to
pull
it loose.
Well, so the moral of this story is, never let your paranoia decide the
cause
of bad experiences, when your own clumsiness or stupidity can explain
it.
P.P.S. *It occurs to me that whether one is "shiftless" [unmotivated, lazy] or "shifty" [nervous, acting guilty, moving round too much, no fixed abode, etc.], both are bad. So is it better to be shifty or shiftless, or should
one
avoid this word altogether?
Bill
You clearly missed the obvious conclusion and, likely, the correct answer. Science, dear boy, science. Gnomes, trolls and germlins. Clearly you have an infestation.
Kate
No, that seems unlikely, as I always leave out food and drink for the
blessed
folk, and we have always had a very reciprocal relationship.
I prefer to believe that the Men in Black are after me. That seems a more plausible explanation.
Bill
True. Sound and sane reasoning.
Kate
It could be, however, that I have somehow offended themselves through my own ignorance, or because they are known to be whimsical, and even playfully cruel. Or perhaps I did not notice the beckoning glance of some princess of the Sidhe, and the lady (forgetting that I could not actually see her) was offended.
This, too, could explain what happened.
Bill
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