Greetings all; I have a need to disable dpms and anything else associated with blanking the screen, sometime for around 12 hours.
Our old friend xset has apparently been neutered and incapable to controlling any of this.
So what is silently overriding these user set choices, something in TDE?
Thanks all.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Saturday 20 June 2020 04:23:35 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all; I have a need to disable dpms and anything else associated with blanking the screen, sometime for around 12 hours.
Our old friend xset has apparently been neutered and incapable to controlling any of this.
So what is silently overriding these user set choices, something in TDE?
Thanks all.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
These not working for you?
#!/bin/bash dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock sleep 3 xset dpms force standby -or- xset dpms force off
The only thing that overrides the 'standby' above for me is touching a key or moving the mouse.
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Hi,
xset does not work with DPMS on my system as well. See http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3114 which is somewhat related.
Janek
Dnia sobota, 20 czerwca 2020, Michael napisał:
On Saturday 20 June 2020 04:23:35 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all; I have a need to disable dpms and anything else associated with blanking the screen, sometime for around 12 hours.
Our old friend xset has apparently been neutered and incapable to controlling any of this.
So what is silently overriding these user set choices, something in TDE?
Thanks all.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
These not working for you?
#!/bin/bash dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock sleep 3 xset dpms force standby -or- xset dpms force off
The only thing that overrides the 'standby' above for me is touching a key or moving the mouse.
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On Monday 22 June 2020 05:31:34 Janek Stolarek wrote:
Hi,
xset does not work with DPMS on my system as well. See http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3114 which is somewhat related.
Janek
Dnia sobota, 20 czerwca 2020, Michael napisał:
On Saturday 20 June 2020 04:23:35 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all; I have a need to disable dpms and anything else associated with blanking the screen, sometime for around 12 hours.
Our old friend xset has apparently been neutered and incapable to controlling any of this.
So what is silently overriding these user set choices, something in TDE?
Thanks all.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
These not working for you?
#!/bin/bash dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock sleep 3 xset dpms force standby -or- xset dpms force off
That forces a dark screen for about 1 second. Even the times set by xset are ignored. Regardless of tde config settings, or xset settings I get a shut down/poweroff, in 5 minutes. Maddening as can be. I have to keep wiggling the mouse to watch a youtube video.
The only thing that overrides the 'standby' above for me is touching a key or moving the mouse.
IMO TDE should get out of the power saving business and let xset do its job. But I'm rowing with a toothpick...
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable watching a video. I set all three power save options in desktop settings to 120 minutes.
Something else to try depends on a config file in which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section "Monitor":
Option "DPMS" "off"
People using DE's (e.g. TDE) normally don't use cmdline utilities for controlling X behavior, unless within startup scripts. The only one I ever use in a startup script is xrandr. Xset has never been my friend.
On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote:
Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable watching a video. I set all three power save options in desktop settings to 120 minutes.
I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q shows: DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 DPMS is Enabled Monitor is On And theres not a thing I can do about it.
Something else to try depends on a config file in which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section "Monitor":
Option "DPMS" "off"People using DE's (e.g. TDE) normally don't use cmdline utilities for controlling X behavior, unless within startup scripts. The only one I ever use in a startup script is xrandr. Xset has never been my friend.
I'm beginning to think of as s klepto shoplifter that deserves shooting myself.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote:
Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable watching a video. I set all three power save options in desktop settings to 120 minutes.
I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q shows: DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 DPMS is Enabled Monitor is On And theres not a thing I can do about it.
Something else to try depends on a config file in which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section "Monitor":
Option "DPMS" "off"
Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least isolate if it's a config file or a system issue?
Best, Michael
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On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote:
Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable watching a video. I set all three power save options in desktop settings to 120 minutes.
I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q shows: DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 DPMS is Enabled Monitor is On And theres not a thing I can do about it.
Something else to try depends on a config file in which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section "Monitor":
Option "DPMS" "off"Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least isolate if it's a config file or a system issue?
Best, Michael
There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the system tray. Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to the tab labelled "power management": unclick the box that says "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can configure power saving to something that suits you better.
(For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or even counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor instead when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting where one wants the screen to lock when unattended, this is a different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene hanging out at home.)
Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other media players do something similar.
Bill
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On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote:
Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable watching a video. I set all three power save options in desktop settings to 120 minutes.
I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q shows: DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 DPMS is Enabled Monitor is On And theres not a thing I can do about it.
Something else to try depends on a config file in which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section "Monitor":
Option "DPMS" "off"Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least isolate if it's a config file or a system issue?
Best, Michael
There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the system tray.
Not there.
Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to the tab labelled "power management": unclick the box that says "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can configure power saving to something that suits you better.
(For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or even counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor instead when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting where one wants the screen to lock when unattended, this is a different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene hanging out at home.)
Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I don't have a cat to walk on keys. Just me.
Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other media players do something similar.
Bill
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote:
Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable watching a video. I set all three power save options in desktop settings to 120 minutes.
I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q shows: DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 DPMS is Enabled Monitor is On And theres not a thing I can do about it.
Something else to try depends on a config file in which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section "Monitor":
Option "DPMS" "off"Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least isolate if it's a config file or a system issue?
Best, Michael
There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the system tray.
Not there.
I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch stuff.
So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to find out the name.
Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how it is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a KDE3/TDE app.
I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" with the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and that is the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search terms.
Bill
Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to the tab labelled "power management": unclick the box that says "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can configure power saving to something that suits you better.
(For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or even counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor instead when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting where one wants the screen to lock when unattended, this is a different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene hanging out at home.)
Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I don't have a cat to walk on keys. Just me.
Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other media players do something similar.
Bill
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On Monday 22 June 2020 10:56:08 William Morder wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote:
Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable watching a video. I set all three power save options in desktop settings to 120 minutes.
I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q shows: DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 DPMS is Enabled Monitor is On And theres not a thing I can do about it.
Something else to try depends on a config file in which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section "Monitor":
Option "DPMS" "off"Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least isolate if it's a config file or a system issue?
Best, Michael
There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the system tray.
Not there.
I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch stuff.
So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to find out the name.
Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how it is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a KDE3/TDE app.
I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" with the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and that is the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search terms.
P.S. It's called tderandrtray. And I quote: "tderandrtray is a system tray frontend to xrandr (X resize and rotate)."
Bill
Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to the tab labelled "power management": unclick the box that says "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can configure power saving to something that suits you better.
(For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or even counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor instead when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting where one wants the screen to lock when unattended, this is a different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene hanging out at home.)
Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I don't have a cat to walk on keys. Just me.
Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other media players do something similar.
Bill
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On Monday 22 June 2020 13:56:08 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote:
Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable watching a video. I set all three power save options in desktop settings to 120 minutes.
I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q shows: DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 DPMS is Enabled Monitor is On And theres not a thing I can do about it.
Something else to try depends on a config file in which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section "Monitor":
Option "DPMS" "off"Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least isolate if it's a config file or a system issue?
Best, Michael
There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the system tray.
Not there.
I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch stuff.
So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to find out the name.
Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how it is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a KDE3/TDE app.
I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" with the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and that is the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search terms.
Bill
Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to the tab labelled "power management": unclick the box that says "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can configure power saving to something that suits you better.
(For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or even counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor instead when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting where one wants the screen to lock when unattended, this is a different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene hanging out at home.)
Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I don't have a cat to walk on keys. Just me.
Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other media players do something similar.
Bill
Found it, very dark blue, looks black at first glance. Had to get root, and then disabled dpms. So now we test for the umptieth time. Same failure to 'get' gamma on the apply, and that apparently generates the error, so I had to manually accept the new settings. But that error popup is behind its window so the only error warning is the audio whomp.
IT S/B ON TOP OF THE XRANDR WINDOW!!!! No one can see it when it pops up behind the xrandr window.
That needs fixed as its zero help but locks out every other action except the timeout/reject, so unless you grab the bar of its window and move it off center so you can see the error message. Otherwise if the sound is turned down/off, you've no visual clue its there.
Thanks Bill. Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 June 2020 15:28:17 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 13:56:08 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote: > Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable > watching a video. I set all three power save options in > desktop settings to 120 minutes.
I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q shows: DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 DPMS is Enabled Monitor is On And theres not a thing I can do about it.
> Something else to try depends on a config file in which to > put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file in > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section "Monitor": > > Option "DPMS" "off"
Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least isolate if it's a config file or a system issue?
Best, Michael
There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the system tray.
Not there.
I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch stuff.
So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to find out the name.
Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how it is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a KDE3/TDE app.
I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" with the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and that is the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search terms.
Bill
Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to the tab labelled "power management": unclick the box that says "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can configure power saving to something that suits you better.
(For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or even counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor instead when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting where one wants the screen to lock when unattended, this is a different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene hanging out at home.)
Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I don't have a cat to walk on keys. Just me.
Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other media players do something similar.
Bill
Found it, very dark blue, looks black at first glance. Had to get root, and then disabled dpms. So now we test for the umptieth time. Same failure to 'get' gamma on the apply, and that apparently generates the error, so I had to manually accept the new settings. But that error popup is behind its window so the only error warning is the audio whomp.
IT S/B ON TOP OF THE XRANDR WINDOW!!!! No one can see it when it pops up behind the xrandr window.
That needs fixed as its zero help but locks out every other action except the timeout/reject, so unless you grab the bar of its window and move it off center so you can see the error message. Otherwise if the sound is turned down/off, you've no visual clue its there.
Thanks Bill. Cheers, Gene Heskett
And it had no effect, xset still shows and does its thing at its usual 450 seconds. So frustration reigns supreme. What the hell is reseting it?
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 23 June 2020 01:47:00 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 15:28:17 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 13:56:08 William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable > > watching a video. I set all three power save options in > > desktop settings to 120 minutes. > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. Nominally > 5 minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q shows: DPMS > (Energy Star): > Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 > DPMS is Enabled > Monitor is On > And theres not a thing I can do about it. > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in which > > to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file in > > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section "Monitor": > > > > Option "DPMS" "off"
Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least isolate if it's a config file or a system issue?
Best, Michael
There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the system tray.
Not there.
I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch stuff.
So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to find out the name.
Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how it is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a KDE3/TDE app.
I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" with the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and that is the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search terms.
Bill
Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to the tab labelled "power management": unclick the box that says "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can configure power saving to something that suits you better.
(For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or even counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor instead when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting where one wants the screen to lock when unattended, this is a different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene hanging out at home.)
Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I don't have a cat to walk on keys. Just me.
Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other media players do something similar.
Bill
Found it, very dark blue, looks black at first glance. Had to get root, and then disabled dpms. So now we test for the umptieth time. Same failure to 'get' gamma on the apply, and that apparently generates the error, so I had to manually accept the new settings. But that error popup is behind its window so the only error warning is the audio whomp.
IT S/B ON TOP OF THE XRANDR WINDOW!!!! No one can see it when it pops up behind the xrandr window.
That needs fixed as its zero help but locks out every other action except the timeout/reject, so unless you grab the bar of its window and move it off center so you can see the error message. Otherwise if the sound is turned down/off, you've no visual clue its there.
Thanks Bill. Cheers, Gene Heskett
And it had no effect, xset still shows and does its thing at its usual 450 seconds. So frustration reigns supreme. What the hell is reseting it?
I have now turned off global display control. I'll click send on thje next minute
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 23 June 2020 02:09:04 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 23 June 2020 01:47:00 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 15:28:17 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 13:56:08 William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable > > > watching a video. I set all three power save options > > > in desktop settings to 120 minutes. > > > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. > > Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q > > shows: DPMS (Energy Star): > > Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 > > DPMS is Enabled > > Monitor is On > > And theres not a thing I can do about it. > > > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in > > > which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a > > > file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section > > > "Monitor": > > > > > > Option "DPMS" "off" > > Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least > isolate if it's a config file or a system issue? > > Best, > Michael
There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the system tray.
Not there.
I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch stuff.
So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to find out the name.
Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how it is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a KDE3/TDE app.
I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" with the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and that is the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search terms.
Bill
Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to the tab labelled "power management": unclick the box that says "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can configure power saving to something that suits you better.
(For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or even counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor instead when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting where one wants the screen to lock when unattended, this is a different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene hanging out at home.)
Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I don't have a cat to walk on keys. Just me.
Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other media players do something similar.
Bill
Found it, very dark blue, looks black at first glance. Had to get root, and then disabled dpms. So now we test for the umptieth time. Same failure to 'get' gamma on the apply, and that apparently generates the error, so I had to manually accept the new settings. But that error popup is behind its window so the only error warning is the audio whomp.
IT S/B ON TOP OF THE XRANDR WINDOW!!!! No one can see it when it pops up behind the xrandr window.
That needs fixed as its zero help but locks out every other action except the timeout/reject, so unless you grab the bar of its window and move it off center so you can see the error message. Otherwise if the sound is turned down/off, you've no visual clue its there.
Thanks Bill. Cheers, Gene Heskett
And it had no effect, xset still shows and does its thing at its usual 450 seconds. So frustration reigns supreme. What the hell is reseting it?
I have now turned off global display control. I'll click send on thje next minute
Its now stayed up for ten minutes. So Its apparently stopped, but only by disabling all tde display & monitor controls, if its enabled, it will powerdown the monitor in 7.5 minutes regardless of any settings otherwise, and if you look at it with an xset -q, its been reset to whatever something else thinks it should be. 450 seconds or 7.5 minutes.
This is the same stuff usually found on the ground behind the male of the bovine specie.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Monday 22 June 2020 23:27:29 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 23 June 2020 02:09:04 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 23 June 2020 01:47:00 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 15:28:17 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 13:56:08 William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
> On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote: > > On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable > > > > watching a video. I set all three power save options > > > > in desktop settings to 120 minutes. > > > > > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. > > > Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q > > > shows: DPMS (Energy Star): > > > Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 > > > DPMS is Enabled > > > Monitor is On > > > And theres not a thing I can do about it. > > > > > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in > > > > which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a > > > > file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section > > > > "Monitor": > > > > > > > > Option "DPMS" "off" > > > > Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least > > isolate if it's a config file or a system issue? > > > > Best, > > Michael > > There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the > system tray.
Not there.
I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch stuff.
So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to find out the name.
Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how it is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a KDE3/TDE app.
I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" with the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and that is the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search terms.
Bill
> Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to the > tab labelled "power management": unclick the box that says > "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can configure power > saving to something that suits you better. > > (For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or even > counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor instead > when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting where one > wants the screen to lock when unattended, this is a > different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene hanging out > at home.)
Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I don't have a cat to walk on keys. Just me.
> Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively > watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other media > players do something similar. > > Bill
Found it, very dark blue, looks black at first glance. Had to get root, and then disabled dpms. So now we test for the umptieth time. Same failure to 'get' gamma on the apply, and that apparently generates the error, so I had to manually accept the new settings. But that error popup is behind its window so the only error warning is the audio whomp.
IT S/B ON TOP OF THE XRANDR WINDOW!!!! No one can see it when it pops up behind the xrandr window.
That needs fixed as its zero help but locks out every other action except the timeout/reject, so unless you grab the bar of its window and move it off center so you can see the error message. Otherwise if the sound is turned down/off, you've no visual clue its there.
Thanks Bill. Cheers, Gene Heskett
And it had no effect, xset still shows and does its thing at its usual 450 seconds. So frustration reigns supreme. What the hell is reseting it?
I have now turned off global display control. I'll click send on thje next minute
Its now stayed up for ten minutes. So Its apparently stopped, but only by disabling all tde display & monitor controls, if its enabled, it will powerdown the monitor in 7.5 minutes regardless of any settings otherwise, and if you look at it with an xset -q, its been reset to whatever something else thinks it should be. 450 seconds or 7.5 minutes.
This is the same stuff usually found on the ground behind the male of the bovine specie.
Stinks just as bad, no matter what the gender of the dumb brute described. Likewise for the end-product of the equine family. They all stink.
Bill
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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On Tuesday 23 June 2020 02:42:21 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 23:27:29 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 23 June 2020 02:09:04 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 23 June 2020 01:47:00 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 15:28:17 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 13:56:08 William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via > trinity-users
wrote:
> > On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote: > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to > > > > > enable watching a video. I set all three power > > > > > save options in desktop settings to 120 minutes. > > > > > > > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. > > > > Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an > > > > xset -q shows: DPMS (Energy Star): > > > > Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 > > > > DPMS is Enabled > > > > Monitor is On > > > > And theres not a thing I can do about it. > > > > > > > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in > > > > > which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a > > > > > file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section > > > > > "Monitor": > > > > > > > > > > Option "DPMS" "off" > > > > > > Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at > > > least isolate if it's a config file or a system issue? > > > > > > Best, > > > Michael > > > > There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the > > system tray. > > Not there.
I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch stuff.
So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to find out the name.
Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how it is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a KDE3/TDE app.
I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" with the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and that is the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search terms.
Bill
> > Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to > > the tab labelled "power management": unclick the box > > that says "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can > > configure power saving to something that suits you > > better. > > > > (For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or > > even counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor > > instead when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting > > where one wants the screen to lock when unattended, this > > is a different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene > > hanging out at home.) > > Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I > don't have a cat to walk on keys. Just me. > > > Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively > > watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other > > media players do something similar. > > > > Bill
Found it, very dark blue, looks black at first glance. Had to get root, and then disabled dpms. So now we test for the umptieth time. Same failure to 'get' gamma on the apply, and that apparently generates the error, so I had to manually accept the new settings. But that error popup is behind its window so the only error warning is the audio whomp.
IT S/B ON TOP OF THE XRANDR WINDOW!!!! No one can see it when it pops up behind the xrandr window.
That needs fixed as its zero help but locks out every other action except the timeout/reject, so unless you grab the bar of its window and move it off center so you can see the error message. Otherwise if the sound is turned down/off, you've no visual clue its there.
Thanks Bill. Cheers, Gene Heskett
And it had no effect, xset still shows and does its thing at its usual 450 seconds. So frustration reigns supreme. What the hell is reseting it?
I have now turned off global display control. I'll click send on thje next minute
Its now stayed up for ten minutes. So Its apparently stopped, but only by disabling all tde display & monitor controls, if its enabled, it will powerdown the monitor in 7.5 minutes regardless of any settings otherwise, and if you look at it with an xset -q, its been reset to whatever something else thinks it should be. 450 seconds or 7.5 minutes.
This is the same stuff usually found on the ground behind the male of the bovine specie.
Stinks just as bad, no matter what the gender of the dumb brute described. Likewise for the end-product of the equine family. They all stink.
Bill
Maybe Bill, but you've obviously never smelt a 40 acre feedlot with 200 head of beef on it on a -20F morning in February '44. You can't even see thru it. With 2 perches that totalled 4300 lbs in the other side of the barn, there was no comparison, the equines were tolerable. Raised in Iowa farming country, I'm quite familiar with both. And I've forked plenty of the output of both from the barn to the spreader. Those 2 perches could do more in a days time in terms of tons moved than the best of the case tractors we also had. I was plowing the west 80, with a case LA w/4 16" bottoms on the plow, a field which had a windmill fed watering tank in the middle of it and got too close to the tank and buried it all in the mud. Daddy swore, whistled up that pair of perches, made a new 2x12 oak double-tree, and hooked them to that tractor with about 80 ft of 1/2" log chain so they'd be on solid ground. Daddy knew horses,and never abused them so they'd do whatever he asked. I pulled the hitch pin to leave the plow, Daddy went tsk tsk, the middle of that chain came up in the air, and that 8,000 lb tractor was back on dryer land shortly, gave then some sugar cubes, time to blow, and went back after the plow. Those perches dug two ditches deep enough to drag their bellies, but they got the job done. Yet they were gentle enough a 10 yo boy could ride either bare backed. We had saddles and a riding horse too, but no saddles that could be thrown onto those 2. Gentle Giants. I remember them well 75 years later.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
This is the same stuff usually found on the ground behind the male of the bovine specie.
Stinks just as bad, no matter what the gender of the dumb brute described. Likewise for the end-product of the equine family. They all stink.
Bill
Maybe Bill, but you've obviously never smelt a 40 acre feedlot with 200 head of beef on it on a -20F morning in February '44. You can't even see thru it. With 2 perches that totalled 4300 lbs in the other side of the barn, there was no comparison, the equines were tolerable. Raised in Iowa farming country, I'm quite familiar with both. And I've forked plenty of the output of both from the barn to the spreader. Those 2 perches could do more in a days time in terms of tons moved than the best of the case tractors we also had. I was plowing the west 80, with a case LA w/4 16" bottoms on the plow, a field which had a windmill fed watering tank in the middle of it and got too close to the tank and buried it all in the mud. Daddy swore, whistled up that pair of perches, made a new 2x12 oak double-tree, and hooked them to that tractor with about 80 ft of 1/2" log chain so they'd be on solid ground. Daddy knew horses,and never abused them so they'd do whatever he asked. I pulled the hitch pin to leave the plow, Daddy went tsk tsk, the middle of that chain came up in the air, and that 8,000 lb tractor was back on dryer land shortly, gave then some sugar cubes, time to blow, and went back after the plow. Those perches dug two ditches deep enough to drag their bellies, but they got the job done. Yet they were gentle enough a 10 yo boy could ride either bare backed. We had saddles and a riding horse too, but no saddles that could be thrown onto those 2. Gentle Giants. I remember them well 75 years later.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
My daughter used to work on a pig farm in Iowa, and I remember that I could not get within a mile of the place without getting sick. And she brought the smell home, and couldn't get rid of it even with showers, baths, soaps, perfumes, etc. Now that's what I call stink.
Bill
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On Monday 22 June 2020 23:27:29 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 23 June 2020 02:09:04 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 23 June 2020 01:47:00 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 15:28:17 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 13:56:08 William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
> On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote: > > On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable > > > > watching a video. I set all three power save options > > > > in desktop settings to 120 minutes. > > > > > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. > > > Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q > > > shows: DPMS (Energy Star): > > > Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 > > > DPMS is Enabled > > > Monitor is On > > > And theres not a thing I can do about it. > > > > > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in > > > > which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a > > > > file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section > > > > "Monitor": > > > > > > > > Option "DPMS" "off" > > > > Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least > > isolate if it's a config file or a system issue? > > > > Best, > > Michael > > There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the > system tray.
Not there.
I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch stuff.
So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to find out the name.
Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how it is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a KDE3/TDE app.
I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" with the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and that is the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search terms.
Bill
> Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to the > tab labelled "power management": unclick the box that says > "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can configure power > saving to something that suits you better. > > (For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or even > counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor instead > when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting where one > wants the screen to lock when unattended, this is a > different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene hanging out > at home.)
Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I don't have a cat to walk on keys. Just me.
> Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively > watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other media > players do something similar. > > Bill
Found it, very dark blue, looks black at first glance. Had to get root, and then disabled dpms. So now we test for the umptieth time. Same failure to 'get' gamma on the apply, and that apparently generates the error, so I had to manually accept the new settings. But that error popup is behind its window so the only error warning is the audio whomp.
IT S/B ON TOP OF THE XRANDR WINDOW!!!! No one can see it when it pops up behind the xrandr window.
That needs fixed as its zero help but locks out every other action except the timeout/reject, so unless you grab the bar of its window and move it off center so you can see the error message. Otherwise if the sound is turned down/off, you've no visual clue its there.
Thanks Bill. Cheers, Gene Heskett
And it had no effect, xset still shows and does its thing at its usual 450 seconds. So frustration reigns supreme. What the hell is reseting it?
I have now turned off global display control. I'll click send on thje next minute
Its now stayed up for ten minutes. So Its apparently stopped, but only by disabling all tde display & monitor controls, if its enabled, it will powerdown the monitor in 7.5 minutes regardless of any settings otherwise, and if you look at it with an xset -q, its been reset to whatever something else thinks it should be. 450 seconds or 7.5 minutes.
This is the same stuff usually found on the ground behind the male of the bovine specie.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
See attachments for screenshots of my own settings. Please note that I have turned off power management completely.
Bill
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On Tuesday 23 June 2020 02:54:13 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 23:27:29 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 23 June 2020 02:09:04 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 23 June 2020 01:47:00 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 15:28:17 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 13:56:08 William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via > trinity-users
wrote:
> > On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote: > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to > > > > > enable watching a video. I set all three power > > > > > save options in desktop settings to 120 minutes. > > > > > > > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. > > > > Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an > > > > xset -q shows: DPMS (Energy Star): > > > > Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 > > > > DPMS is Enabled > > > > Monitor is On > > > > And theres not a thing I can do about it. > > > > > > > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in > > > > > which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a > > > > > file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section > > > > > "Monitor": > > > > > > > > > > Option "DPMS" "off" > > > > > > Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at > > > least isolate if it's a config file or a system issue? > > > > > > Best, > > > Michael > > > > There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the > > system tray. > > Not there.
I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch stuff.
So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to find out the name.
Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how it is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a KDE3/TDE app.
I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" with the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and that is the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search terms.
Bill
> > Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to > > the tab labelled "power management": unclick the box > > that says "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can > > configure power saving to something that suits you > > better. > > > > (For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or > > even counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor > > instead when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting > > where one wants the screen to lock when unattended, this > > is a different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene > > hanging out at home.) > > Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I > don't have a cat to walk on keys. Just me. > > > Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively > > watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other > > media players do something similar. > > > > Bill
Found it, very dark blue, looks black at first glance. Had to get root, and then disabled dpms. So now we test for the umptieth time. Same failure to 'get' gamma on the apply, and that apparently generates the error, so I had to manually accept the new settings. But that error popup is behind its window so the only error warning is the audio whomp.
IT S/B ON TOP OF THE XRANDR WINDOW!!!! No one can see it when it pops up behind the xrandr window.
That needs fixed as its zero help but locks out every other action except the timeout/reject, so unless you grab the bar of its window and move it off center so you can see the error message. Otherwise if the sound is turned down/off, you've no visual clue its there.
Thanks Bill. Cheers, Gene Heskett
And it had no effect, xset still shows and does its thing at its usual 450 seconds. So frustration reigns supreme. What the hell is reseting it?
I have now turned off global display control. I'll click send on thje next minute
Its now stayed up for ten minutes. So Its apparently stopped, but only by disabling all tde display & monitor controls, if its enabled, it will powerdown the monitor in 7.5 minutes regardless of any settings otherwise, and if you look at it with an xset -q, its been reset to whatever something else thinks it should be. 450 seconds or 7.5 minutes.
This is the same stuff usually found on the ground behind the male of the bovine specie.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
See attachments for screenshots of my own settings. Please note that I have turned off power management completely.
Bill
Thats the only thing that worked. Nothing else is even capable of adjusting the time.
Thanks Bill.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
And it had no effect, xset still shows and does its thing at its usual 450 seconds. So frustration reigns supreme. What the hell is reseting it?
I have now turned off global display control. I'll click send on thje next minute
Its now stayed up for ten minutes. So Its apparently stopped, but only by disabling all tde display & monitor controls, if its enabled, it will powerdown the monitor in 7.5 minutes regardless of any settings otherwise, and if you look at it with an xset -q, its been reset to whatever something else thinks it should be. 450 seconds or 7.5 minutes.
See attachments for screenshots of my own settings. Please note that I have turned off power management completely.
Bill
Thats the only thing that worked. Nothing else is even capable of adjusting the time.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Okay, so am I to understand that you are at least able to watch a movie without having the power management interrupt and take over the system? Maybe it isn't quite what you want (yet), but you did get that dubious "feature" shut off?
If we have laid that part of it to rest, then you can worry about how to adjust your settings later.
Bill
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On Monday 22 June 2020 22:47:00 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 15:28:17 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 13:56:08 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote:
On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable > > watching a video. I set all three power save options in > > desktop settings to 120 minutes. > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. Nominally 5 > minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q shows: > DPMS (Energy Star): > Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 > DPMS is Enabled > Monitor is On > And theres not a thing I can do about it. > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in which to > > put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file in > > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section "Monitor": > > > > Option "DPMS" "off"
Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least isolate if it's a config file or a system issue?
Best, Michael
There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the system tray.
Not there.
I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch stuff.
So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to find out the name.
Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how it is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a KDE3/TDE app.
I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" with the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and that is the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search terms.
Bill
Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to the tab labelled "power management": unclick the box that says "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can configure power saving to something that suits you better.
(For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or even counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor instead when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting where one wants the screen to lock when unattended, this is a different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene hanging out at home.)
Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I don't have a cat to walk on keys. Just me.
Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other media players do something similar.
Bill
Found it, very dark blue, looks black at first glance. Had to get root, and then disabled dpms. So now we test for the umptieth time. Same failure to 'get' gamma on the apply, and that apparently generates the error, so I had to manually accept the new settings. But that error popup is behind its window so the only error warning is the audio whomp.
IT S/B ON TOP OF THE XRANDR WINDOW!!!! No one can see it when it pops up behind the xrandr window.
That needs fixed as its zero help but locks out every other action except the timeout/reject, so unless you grab the bar of its window and move it off center so you can see the error message. Otherwise if the sound is turned down/off, you've no visual clue its there.
Thanks Bill. Cheers, Gene Heskett
And it had no effect, xset still shows and does its thing at its usual 450 seconds. So frustration reigns supreme. What the hell is reseting it?
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Damn, and I thought I read you saying thanks, like you got it working right... Oh well.
As I mentioned before, VLC (I have recently rediscovered) allows you to turn off power saving features, screensaver, etc., while you are watching a video. I imagine some other media players have similar settings.
So I was poking round, and found out that you can get to that same configuration screen through the Trinity Control Center. (I don't know if they are the same, just different ways to get there, but worth checking out if you're desperate.) Both also have a tab that says Global Settings, and also you are able to create a power management profile. If you haven't done so, that would probably be a good idea, then make your chosen settings the default.
Also, you may have two or more choices for a screensaver program; I mean, for example, that I use xscreensaver, but there is another which is (I believe) KDE3/TDE. I know it can be found in the start menu, but I can't find a command for it, or even give a name. It's kscreensaver, or kscreensaver-trinity, or maybe tdescreensaver? And there are a couple others that you could possibly use, and maybe you have a conflict between two programs that both try to control your power settings.
And then, there are all kinds of battery programs, power monitor stuff, etc. The same kind of conflict might come up there, if you have two programs competing. In general, I hate all those powersaving features, because they always take over my system. It's easier to push a button and shut off a monitor, or whatever else you're not using.
I would take inventory of what you have installed among those kinds of items, if nothing else thus far is working for you. Offhand, the most likely suspects would seem to be tdepowersave-trinity or klaptopdaemon-trinity, or something like that. If you happened to install something meant for laptops, and you're on a desktop, that could be causing it. I've had that happen before myself.
You might also watch any kind of logs that might give you more details, or something like top (but I only see xscreensaver on my own). Maybe somebody else can help you out with a command to run, that will track down the culprit?
I am at a loss right now. I'll let you know if I get any bright ideas. Let's see what others can recommend.
Bill
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