Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable watching a video. I set all three power save options in desktop settings to 120 minutes.

On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable watching a > > video. I set all three power save options in desktop settings to > > 120 minutes. > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. Nominally 5 > minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q shows: > DPMS (Energy Star): > Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 > DPMS is Enabled > Monitor is On > And theres not a thing I can do about it. > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in which to put > > it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file in > > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section "Monitor": > > > > Option "DPMS" "off" Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least isolate if it's a config file or a system issue? Best, Michael

On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable > > > watching a video. I set all three power save options in > > > desktop settings to 120 minutes. > > > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. Nominally 5 > > minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q shows: > > DPMS (Energy Star): > > Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 > > DPMS is Enabled > > Monitor is On > > And theres not a thing I can do about it. > > > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in which to > > > put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a file in > > > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section "Monitor": > > > > > > Option "DPMS" "off" > > Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least > isolate if it's a config file or a system issue? > > Best, > Michael There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the system tray.

On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via > trinity-users

> > On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote: > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable > > > > > watching a video. I set all three power save options > > > > > in desktop settings to 120 minutes. > > > > > > > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. > > > > Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q > > > > shows: DPMS (Energy Star): > > > > Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 > > > > DPMS is Enabled > > > > Monitor is On > > > > And theres not a thing I can do about it. > > > > > > > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in > > > > > which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a > > > > > file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section > > > > > "Monitor": > > > > > > > > > > Option "DPMS" "off" > > > > > > Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least > > > isolate if it's a config file or a system issue? > > > > > > Best, > > > Michael > > > > There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the > > system tray. > > Not there. I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch stuff. So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to find out the name. Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how it is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a KDE3/TDE app. I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" with the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and that is the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search terms. Bill > > Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to the > > tab labelled "power management": unclick the box that says > > "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can configure power > > saving to something that suits you better. > > > > (For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or even > > counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor instead > > when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting where one > > wants the screen to lock when unattended, this is a > > different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene hanging out > > at home.) > > Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I don't > have a cat to walk on keys. Just me. > > > Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively > > watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other media > > players do something similar. > > > > Bill

On Monday 22 June 2020 15:28:17 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2020 13:56:08 William Morder via > trinity-users

> > On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via > > > trinity-users > > wrote: > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote: > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to > > > > > > > enable watching a video. I set all three power > > > > > > > save options in desktop settings to 120 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. > > > > > > Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an > > > > > > xset -q shows: DPMS (Energy Star): > > > > > > Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 > > > > > > DPMS is Enabled > > > > > > Monitor is On > > > > > > And theres not a thing I can do about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in > > > > > > > which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a > > > > > > > file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section > > > > > > > "Monitor": > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Option "DPMS" "off" > > > > > > > > > > Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at > > > > > least isolate if it's a config file or a system issue? > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the > > > > system tray. > > > > > > Not there. > > > > I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting > > there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch > > stuff. > > > > So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See > > attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to > > find out the name. > > > > Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how > > it is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a > > KDE3/TDE app. > > > > I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps > > tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" > > with the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and > > that is the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search > > terms. > > > > Bill > > > > > > Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to > > > > the tab labelled "power management": unclick the box > > > > that says "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can > > > > configure power saving to something that suits you > > > > better. > > > > > > > > (For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or > > > > even counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor > > > > instead when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting > > > > where one wants the screen to lock when unattended, this > > > > is a different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene > > > > hanging out at home.) > > > > > > Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I > > > don't have a cat to walk on keys. Just me. > > > > > > > Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively > > > > watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other > > > > media players do something similar. > > > > > > > > Bill > > Found it, very dark blue, looks black at first glance. Had to > get root, and then disabled dpms. So now we test for the > umptieth time. Same failure to 'get' gamma on the apply, and > that apparently generates the error, so I had to manually > accept the new settings. But that error popup is behind its > window so the only error warning is the audio whomp. > > IT S/B ON TOP OF THE XRANDR WINDOW!!!! No one can see it when > it pops up behind the xrandr window. > > That needs fixed as its zero help but locks out every other > action except the timeout/reject, so unless you grab the bar > of its window and move it off center so you can see the error > message. Otherwise if the sound is turned down/off, you've no > visual clue its there. > > Thanks Bill. > Cheers, Gene Heskett And it had no effect, xset still shows and does its thing at its usual 450 seconds. So frustration reigns supreme. What the hell is reseting it?

Cheers, Gene Heskett

> On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via > > trinity-users wrote: > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote: > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to enable > > > > > > watching a video. I set all three power save options > > > > > > in desktop settings to 120 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. > > > > > Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an xset -q > > > > > shows: DPMS (Energy Star): > > > > > Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 > > > > > DPMS is Enabled > > > > > Monitor is On > > > > > And theres not a thing I can do about it. > > > > > > > > > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in > > > > > > which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a > > > > > > file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section > > > > > > "Monitor": > > > > > > > > > > > > Option "DPMS" "off" > > > > > > > > Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at least > > > > isolate if it's a config file or a system issue? > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > Michael > > > > > > There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the > > > system tray. > > > > Not there. > > I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting > there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch stuff. > > So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See > attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to find > out the name. > > Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how it > is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a KDE3/TDE > app. > > I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps > tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" with > the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and that is > the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search terms. > > Bill > > > > Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to the > > > tab labelled "power management": unclick the box that says > > > "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can configure power > > > saving to something that suits you better. > > > > > > (For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or even > > > counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor instead > > > when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting where one > > > wants the screen to lock when unattended, this is a > > > different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene hanging out > > > at home.) > > > > Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I don't > > have a cat to walk on keys. Just me. > > > > > Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively > > > watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other media > > > players do something similar. > > > > > > Bill Found it, very dark blue, looks black at first glance. Had to get root, and then disabled dpms. So now we test for the umptieth time. Same failure to 'get' gamma on the apply, and that apparently generates the error, so I had to manually accept the new settings. But that error popup is behind its window so the only error warning is the audio whomp. IT S/B ON TOP OF THE XRANDR WINDOW!!!! No one can see it when it pops up behind the xrandr window. That needs fixed as its zero help but locks out every other action except the timeout/reject, so unless you grab the bar of its window and move it off center so you can see the error message. Otherwise if the sound is turned down/off, you've no visual clue its there. Thanks Bill. Cheers, Gene Heskett

> And it had no effect, xset still shows and does its thing at its > usual 450 seconds. So frustration reigns supreme. What the hell > is reseting it? I have now turned off global display control. I'll click send on thje next minute