On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:03 AM, trinity-users-help@lists.pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
[snip]
--8701F456024E.1348439718/vali.starlink.edu Content-Description: Delivery report Content-Type: message/delivery-status
Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 8701F456024E X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3629-robxu9=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:35:17 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; robxu9@gmail.com Original-Recipient: rfc822;robxu9@gmail.com Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. k2si7073925igo.55
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Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
What is beginning to happen around the net -- with 'responsible' ISPs -- is the enforcement of Forward-confirmed reverse DNS (FCrDNS)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward-confirmed_reverse_DNS-and-
Sender Policy Framework (SPF)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_FrameworkIn a nutshell, lists email distribution is affected because the emails are re-sent by the list server as From: The_Originator@example.com. Which is true -- it did originate "From:" me, or "From:" you. But, it appears to be a forgery to incoming mailservers that do this checking, because those emails CANNOT be "From:" that user from THAT MTA.
For example, this email - From: Jonesy trinity@jonz.net cannot be sent from the mail servers at vali.starlink.edu --- at least not with FCrDNS checking.
FCrDNS cuts down on A LOT of spam. My SysAdmin says 90% of incoming email is pure crap spam -- with forged "From:"s out of cracked botnet machines. FCrDNS cuts down on ALMOST ALL of that. Think of the savings...
But, I've had to remove my domain from that checking by my ISP because I am on so many lists, email reflectors, what-ever-you-call-them. Eventually lists will have to evolve to some different scheme.
Huh? So you are intentionally having emails bounce?
Too much information? Jonesy
brb; head hurts ;P
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Robert Xu wrote:
Huh? So you are intentionally having emails bounce?
Huh? No.
The receiving MTA at my ISP rejected an email from the list with:
Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 0CC704560250 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3521-trinity=jonz.net@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:04:39 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; trinity@jonz.net Original-Recipient: rfc822;trinity@jonz.net Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; mx4.operationenterprise.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 sender domain does not exist
My (email) ISP said "sender domain does not exist".
Here's one that Robert Xu inquired of me about (because it was from the list -- my list message being sent on to him.)
Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 8701F456024E X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3629-robxu9=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:35:17 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; robxu9@gmail.com Original-Recipient: rfc822;robxu9@gmail.com Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. k2si7073925igo.55
Xu's email provider (Gmail) reported "Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain."
Lisi also reported a "warning from trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net" on September 22, but she did not inlude the report body showing the reason for the rejection. She showed the headers from the email notifying her of the rejection -- not the rejection report. (At least that's what I see at http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3615 )
I get one rejection notification every 10 days or so. So far the "warning from trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net" makes it to me and, so, ezmlm does not think me to be a 'hard bounce' (a no-longer-valid email addy.)
One thing: I've been on the list since, maybe, back in April (or earlier), and I only think I've seen this 'problem' in the last 2 months or so.
Jonesy
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Robert Xu wrote:
Huh? So you are intentionally having emails bounce?
Huh? No.
The receiving MTA at my ISP rejected an email from the list with:
Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 0CC704560250 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3521-trinity=jonz.net@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:04:39 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; trinity@jonz.net Original-Recipient: rfc822;trinity@jonz.net Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; mx4.operationenterprise.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 sender domain does not exist
My (email) ISP said "sender domain does not exist".
This *should* be fixed as of a week or two ago; can you confirm?
Thanks!
Tim
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Timothy Pearson wrote:
My (email) ISP said "sender domain does not exist".
This *should* be fixed as of a week or two ago; can you confirm?
Confirm a not-failing? heh... As a close colleague of mine once said for a LARGE piece of corporate software we built and maintained: "It is not known not to fail." I think we'll have to set this aside and see if it never happens again.
My last "Fail" notification was received yesterday:
From: trinity-users-help@lists.pearsoncomputing.net To: trinity@jonz.net Date: 4 Oct 2012 08:52:06 -0000 Subject: warning from trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net
but the report was for a list message dated Sept 22:
Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu X-Postfix-Queue-ID: AA46E456024C X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3615-trinity=jonz.net@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:43:34 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; trinity@jonz.net Original-Recipient: rfc822;trinity@jonz.net Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; mx1.operationenterprise.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 sender domain does not exist
Why the bounce was 'held' for 12 days before I was "warned" is strange. I don't think the MTA for pearsoncomputing.net re-tried the message every day for 12 days and then reported - by date- the first failure.
I'll reply to this list message if I see another "warning".
Regards, Jonesy
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Timothy Pearson wrote:
My (email) ISP said "sender domain does not exist".
This *should* be fixed as of a week or two ago; can you confirm?
Confirm a not-failing? heh... As a close colleague of mine once said for a LARGE piece of corporate software we built and maintained: "It is not known not to fail." I think we'll have to set this aside and see if it never happens again.
<snip>
Heh. I should probably have phrased that more precisely, such as "are you currently seeing the failure you described earlier?". ;-)
I'll reply to this list message if I see another "warning".
Thanks!
Tim
On Saturday 06 October 2012 05:10:23 Timothy Pearson wrote:
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Timothy Pearson wrote:
My (email) ISP said "sender domain does not exist".
This *should* be fixed as of a week or two ago; can you confirm?
Confirm a not-failing? heh... As a close colleague of mine once said for a LARGE piece of corporate software we built and maintained: "It is not known not to fail." I think we'll have to set this aside and see if it never happens again.
<snip>
Heh. I should probably have phrased that more precisely, such as "are you currently seeing the failure you described earlier?". ;-)
I'll reply to this list message if I see another "warning".
FWIW, I had a "warning" yesterday. I can't quote it verbatim because I deleted it.
Lisi
On Saturday 06 October 2012 07:53:05 Andy wrote:
On Saturday 06 October 2012 02:49:13 am Lisi wrote:
FWIW, I had a "warning" yesterday. I can't quote it verbatim because I deleted it.
Lisi
Same here.
Andy
I've had a couple over the past week & one today !
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012, Baron wrote:
On Saturday 06 October 2012 07:53:05 Andy wrote:
On Saturday 06 October 2012 02:49:13 am Lisi wrote:
FWIW, I had a "warning" yesterday. I can't quote it verbatim because I deleted it.
Lisi
Same here.
Andy
I've had a couple over the past week & one today !
Yabutt... Didn't the included report(s) refer to a message (or two) that were dated ten days _prior_ to the warning email?
That was always the case here.
Jonesy
Timothy Pearson wrote:
This *should* be fixed as of a week or two ago; can you confirm? Thanks! Tim
I have just gotten two bounce warnings, both from trinity-users:
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Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at trinity-users-owner@lists.pearsoncomputing.net.
Messages to you from the trinity-users mailing list seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received.
If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces, I will remove your address from the trinity-users mailing list, without further notice.
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3781 3784 3789 3792 3829
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Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.pearsoncomputing.net X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 59FC345602D9 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3781-oldlaptop654=aol.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:55:02 -0500 (CDT)
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Return-Path:trinity-users-return-3781-oldlaptop654=aol.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FC345602D9 foroldlaptop654@aol.com; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:55:02 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pearsoncomputing.net Received: from mail.pearsoncomputing.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vali.starlink.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X2XBbXUgkJy8 foroldlaptop654@aol.com; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:55:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vali.starlink.edu (vali.starlink.edu [192.168.1.21]) by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FA2A4560223 foroldlaptop654@aol.com; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:54:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 7351 invoked by uid 1002); 9 Oct 2012 13:54:54 -0500 Mailing-List: contact trinity-users-help@lists.pearsoncomputing.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post:mailto:trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net List-Help:mailto:trinity-users-help@lists.pearsoncomputing.net List-Unsubscribe:mailto:trinity-users-unsubscribe@lists.pearsoncomputing.net List-Subscribe:mailto:trinity-users-subscribe@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Reply-To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Delivered-To: mailing list trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Received: (qmail 7337 invoked by uid 64014); 9 Oct 2012 13:54:54 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pearsoncomputing.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=K2xp5Lb2lxktT3Qhu/2gNYW8qOBv/Gk1ZdcsdZ2qHp0=; b=anS4NhVfU1HLp7nFMB/gMZsXxJ8YbnTpTHSYEN4PTD1bWqUhcuPEvH3kGViAS9q3JD ZyLTPlg/BO7rzhnEWcSnX8Vl9O9GYaW/N+R2i+7OfxRJslB9USbKhCbz4cWUWQ6nOyCR qdiR0TVPb/KiVB724Gb8DksyouxRWOhgKqSOaZOjwZticRuSKcIzwYyXH8TiMN94xPp9 wu5FS8g+J0Wsc53U878kax21+ikRohPXe3yo3T4ENcaU+yKo/iNIhhMFY2xvXp5fsK+4 8gjfGODnnB37/PjzEp37lCknhKa/1SVo7dceP3MOVru10X1IeoDVHnClHjnSojWYqfpP 505Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To:CAJFUHyVjNTp2RYRdnBX3BmEtVvmTmrhHkdkM4tW4UsUTLK5Rzg@mail.gmail.com References:CAPCqDyR=zUBUaedzH9tcJQSjBQ+zf0M76jDTXx1e4pSRYRs15w@mail.gmail.com CAJFUHyVjNTp2RYRdnBX3BmEtVvmTmrhHkdkM4tW4UsUTLK5Rzg@mail.gmail.com Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 20:54:50 +0200 Message-ID:CAPCqDyRiqSJK2csnvyeN27m2eVap0fVxdd-ntjFbX6_3DYL2yA@mail.gmail.com From: =?UTF-8?B?SmnFmcOtIErDoW5za8O9?=janskyj@gmail.com To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f5034e86bc01304cba4df24 Subject: Re: [trinity-users] server/connectivity offer
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2012/10/8 Calvin Morrisonmutantturkey@gmail.com
On 7 October 2012 14:24, Ji=C5=99=C3=AD J=C3=A1nsk=C3=BD<janskyj@gmail.c=
om> wrote:
Hi everybody,
I am using Slavek's personal repository and it isn't fast like other european mirror. There was call for donation too.
I think, I should be able to negotiated some server(s) inside Czech Technical University (http://www.siliconhill.cz/en/) that could by use
as
build, storage etc... Are you interested for this form of "donation"? I would be my way how t=
o
contribute to trinity...
Regards Ji=C5=99=C3=AD J=C3=A1nsk=C3=BD
Yes!
That would be awesome, we are in need of server space and bandwidth :)
Could you be more accurate? How much space would trinity project use? How many cpu power? Simple little more information ;)
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/10/8 Calvin Morrison<span dir=3D"ltr"><= <a href=3D"mailto:mutantturkey@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mutantturkey@gm= ail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin= :0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div>On 7 October 2012 14:24, Ji=C5=99=C3=AD J=C3=A1nsk=C3=BD<<a h= ref=3D"mailto:janskyj@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">janskyj@gmail.com</a>>= ; wrote:<br> > Hi everybody,<br>
><br> > I am using Slavek's personal repository and it isn't fast like= other<br> > european mirror. There was call for donation too.<br> ><br> > I think, I should be able to negotiated some server(s) inside Czech<br=
> Technical University (<a href=3D"http://www.siliconhill.cz/en/" target= =3D"_blank">http://www.siliconhill.cz/en/</a>) that could by use as<br> > build, storage etc...<br>
> Are you interested for this form of"donation"? I would be m= y way how to<br> > contribute to trinity...<br> ><br> > Regards<br> > Ji=C5=99=C3=AD J=C3=A1nsk=C3=BD<br> <br> </div></div>Yes!<br> <br> That would be awesome, we are in need of server space and bandwidth :)<br>
</blockquote></div><br>Could you be more accurate? How much space would tri= nity project use? How many cpu power? Simple little more information ;)<br>= <br>
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Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the trinity-devel@lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at trinity-devel-owner@lists.pearsoncomputing.net.
Messages to you from the trinity-devel mailing list seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received.
If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces, I will remove your address from the trinity-devel mailing list, without further notice.
Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request), send an empty message to: trinity-devel-get.123_145@lists.pearsoncomputing.net
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Here are the message numbers:
10215 10217 10224 10227 10235
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====================================== *** Trinity News *** ======================================
The final preparations for SRU 3.5.13.1 are in progress. The official release should be announced within the upcoming days.
There has been some successful preliminary progress compiling Trinity on ARM hardware.
====================================== *** Enhancement Requests Fulfilled *** ======================================
549 knetworkmanager needs rewrite for network-manager API 0.9 and higher 611 xz support in konqueror 1195 Desktop icon 'My computer'
=================================== *** Formal Bug Reports Resolved *** ===================================
178 ISO files should double-click open with kio_iso 482 openoffice.org-kde-trinity request 521 Trinity networking breaks with network-manager 0.9 632 Keramik window decoration does not work 672 kmymoney crashes on startup 763 KControl: Pressing the Apply button always stops the Media Notifier Daemon 1063 Build issue: #error "Only<glib.h> can be included directly." 1109 Build issue: Cannot choose QtCurve style 1178 KHelpCenter Application Manuals Missing 3.5.13-sru 1198 kmymoney crashes on start 1212 programs cannot talk to klauncher 1223 Keramic theme is broken 1228 Konsole as SuperUser 1235 Kmail: Occasional endless loop with IMAP checking
======================================= *** Other Bugs Resolved and Patches *** =======================================
Commit No. Description ========== ===========
2712dc64 [tdebindings] Fix build on Ruby 1.9.1 and 1.9.2. 6b4b40b1 [knetworkmanager9] Remove spurious files and configure checks c5e51f86 [adept] Fix FTBFS d2480b90 [tdelibs] Fix pictbridge camera detection. Add new device matching rules 5feb80c8 [tqt3] Automated update from Qt3 467f30f2 [experimental] Fix TQt3 compile time checks b1346b88 [tdelibs] Correctly parse cpuinfo on ARM devices b0b8e4ed [koffice] Add missing file 1e3ae086 [koffice] Fix FTBFS 2d502174 [knetworkmanager9] Remove spurious hal check cc278836 [koffice] Attempt to make kross compile with Ruby 1.9.x 4eb88cc2 [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Fix a few graphical glitches 095f615a [amarok] Fix FTBFS on x86 systems 58823f36 [tdebase] Add sanity checks to the migratekde3 script before trying to run certain sections. 44273426 [amarok] Fix format not a string literal security error in rb_raise d9227e46 [amarok] Fix build system for ruby>= 1.9 5828c385 [tdelibs] Fix TDEHW crash when cpufreq not available c2fb6050 [krusader] Fix inadvertent tqt changes. e09b1f3d [tdepim] Fix the addquotes/removequots functions in libkmime 8ade4e21 [k3b] Update libisofs to read files greater than 2GB 1f33dc8f [tdebase] Attempt to minimize the time in which new notifications are displayed before being hidden 57f5c069 [tdebase] Lower override redirect windows instead of unmapping them on lock start. Restore lowered windows on lock exit b59fdf2c [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Fix QtOctave failure and MDI pixmap problems 4f0b6320 [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Attempt to work around Qt 4.8 bug in fromX11Pixmap when masks are converted 553923b2 [tdebase] Forcibly prevent transient override redirect windows from showing up over the lock screen a901a123 [tdebindings] Fix FTBFS on x86 systems 10fc891a [tdebindings] Fix Ruby detection when .pc file is ruby-1.9 2f6e9c73 [tdebindings] Fall back to ruby-1.9 pkgconfig file if needed 2b324e26 [kdpkg] Fix QString -> TQString. f3d9fa8c [kerry] Fix QString -> TQString. 2b39cdb5 [knetworkmanager9] Fix QString -> TQString. 78196c12 [knetworkmanager8] Fix QString -> TQString. 9ee1344e [kpowersave-nohal] Fix QString -> TQString. 1b4d7e54 [kbfx] Fix QString -> TQString. 3a60e3ce [potracegui] Fix QString -> TQString. e827f8d5 [tdesvn] Fix QString -> TQString. 688d0e84 [kvpnc] Fix QString -> TQString. 0b1f7817 [kpowersave] Fix QString -> TQString. 4b5d02a2 [kbookreader] Fix QString -> TQString. 013e6b26 [kmyfirewall] Fix QString -> TQString. 5bf9c2d7 [basket] Fix QString -> TQString. 58664773 [ktorrent] Fix QString -> TQString. 718b3af0 [kipi-plugins] Fix QString -> TQString. 3c352d5e [koffice] Fix QString -> TQString. 1c60648f [k3b] Fix QString -> TQString. 31784539 [tdesdk] Fix QString -> TQString. 95248100 [tdepim] Fix QString -> TQString. 685de864 [tdewebdev] Fix QString -> TQString. 70a3c0d9 [tdevelop] Fix QString -> TQString. d513bace [tdeedu] Fix QString -> TQString. 75bf0c9d [tdetoys] Fix QString -> TQString. 3d2141c8 [tdeartwork] Fix QString -> TQString. 9a680e5c [tdenetwork] Fix QString -> TQString. 492b084f [tdeadmin] Fix QString -> TQString. 1474ae14 [tdemultimedia] Fix QString -> TQString. c4d066ff [tdeutils] Fix QString -> TQString. eef9817d [tdeaccessibility] Fix QString -> TQString. 249c80de [tdebase] Fix QString -> TQString. 5242023c [tdelibs] Fix QString -> TQString. 47414903 [koffice-i18n] Rebranding of Krita as Chalk 933690a7 [tde-i18n] Rebranding of Krita as Chalk 0fef2b78 [tdebase] Rebranding of Krita as Chalk 9e0a5e72 [tdelibs] Rebranding of Krita as Chalk 7d8cc6ed [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Fix potential crash when TDE integration is disabled efdff81c [admin] Allow build to proceed even if libhpi.so is not present def58d42 [tdebase] Update migratekde3 script to partially resolve bug report 1210 6f0ebd61 [tdeaddons] Fix xz support in konqueror context popup menu. 01c61997 [tdelibs] Make KFileDialog fit on the screen when a large filter string or URL is provided 03e93296 [tdegraphics] Use poppler pkg-config information when running version checks 2fcd8b3d [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Fix corrupt application name and crash on exit 4623775a [tqt3] Automated update from Qt3 1faf4cf7 [qt3] Fix focus rectangle drawing on external paint device b9daa01a [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Add widget cache and fix checkboxes and pushbuttons db0c7b24 [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Speed up theme engine 2b586b80 [tdelibs] Fix Asteroid spinbox hints 2624ef7e [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Fix spinbox rendering 3c83d427 [tdelibs] Fix Asteroid spin widget hints a3ae879d [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Split out TQt3 to Qt4 conversion methods into separate file 8b7e1160 [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Fix a number of problems and check for known broken Qt4 version dc14a278 [tqt3] Automated update from Qt3 be8d88ee [qt3] Fix focus rectangle fill when brush is set on call to focus rectangle paint method 05fe2bdd [tdelibs] Fix spinbox widgets 14594d81 [tdebindings] Fix FTBFS on ruby 1.8.x ef7a6086 [tdebindings] Fix FTBS on ruby 1.9.x 46659f99 [tdebindings] Set HAVE_RUBY_1_9 if ruby 1.9.x installed c1faffb8 [tdebindings] Use cflags from ruby pc file de49c748 [tdebindings] Detect presence of Ruby pkg-config file and adjust directory search accordingly 186ceec0 [knetworkmanager9] Show VPN status information 92fcdec6 [tdelibs] Add VPN status flags and signals 94881634 [knetworkmanager9] Clean up the code slightly 8be09fcc [tdelibs] Fix VPN load and save 646dfb2d [tqt3] Automated update from Qt3 e43d1ae2 [qt3] Fix FTBFS on Linux from recent UUID enhancement b99db6aa [knetworkmanager9] Reactivate strongswan VPN plugin 60bf9a13 [knetworkmanager9] Reactivate openvpn plugin 3c57e87e [knetworkmanager9] Reactivate PPTP plugin 0fa003ad [knetworkmanager9] Fix VPN settings dialog c27ceace [tdelibs] Detect available VPN plugins 2027fb3d [knetworkmanager9] Reactivate VPNC plugin 441c9f02 [knetworkmanager9] Start work on vpnc plugin 330644c8 [knetworkmanager9] Fix VPN plugin API 475d0894 [knetworkmanager9] Reactivate basic VPN support e7af2039 [tdelibs] Fix crash on VPN load 2df5ea4a [knetworkmanager9] Fix wireless bargraph menu layout problems 0a3b1be6 [tdelibs] Add a couple of needed methods to the network-manager backend API 2b5b314c [knetworkmanager9] Fix movie loading 4be2fb85 [knetworkmanager9] Add various movie sizes 8bf5213c [tqt3] Automated update from Qt3 093bfb82 [qt3] Use high quality uuid_generate on Linux instead of PRNG f1cea7f8 [cmake] Install mng icons as well as png and svg icons d62684de [tdelibs] Add valids map 2ac42d4b [knetworkmanager9] Fix default device handling and clean up code b5bdfd2c [tdelibs] Extend API to include default device(s) 323fad1f [knetworkmanager9] Add connection editing support and clean up the code edc41514 [tdemultimedia] Added default global shortcuts for kmix 69038478 [knetworkmanager9] Use BSSID instead of storing APInfo pointers internally 642f2270 [tdelibs] Add requisite MAC address comparator for use in TQMap objects 083f3b3b [knetworkmanager9] Fix new connections 7d8a74d0 [tdelibs] Automatically generate UUID when needed df590f5e [dbus-1-tqt] Reset error object to succesful state in async calls 4f60eb94 [tdelibs] Generate a default UUID when a connection is created 756213b4 [knetworkmanager9] Additional rebranding 2a9e4eac [knetworkmanager9] Connect hardware change signals d45f99e1 [tdelibs] Fix ap infinite loop and disable debug spew 83e3ac03 [tdelibs] Add AP monitoring support a1f084dd [tdelibs] Add additional network event signals 6a2462e3 [tdelibs] Make Invalid a flag 1a6fd0df [knetworkmanager9] Store UUIDs and UDIs internally instead of pointers to connection and device objects e064a2e4 [tdelibs] Add loadConnectionAllowedValues method to global network manager 671940a2 [tdelibs] Add new signal to tdehwlibrary 10cd918b [knetworkmanager9] Rename icons 06534a8e [knetworkmanager9] Additional branding updates 6b96deb4 [tdelibs] Add global network management event signal 42966fe6 [knetworkmanager9] Remove more KDE references 82102f3f [knetworkmanager9] Rename files to something more sensible d4509922 [knetworkmanager9] Now compiles with new API 96765c9d [tdelibs] Add additional network methods 9dce2088 [knetworkmanager9] Convert config widgets to new API 4e6c7c0e [knetworkmanager9] Rearrange files again 6dbc7e59 [tdelibs] Add new convenience functions to network manager fed6fccc [knetworkmanager9] More API porting c5bbf78c [knetworkmanager9] Remove additional obsolete files 3f528887 [knetworkmanager9] Remove unneeded connection files 26cdc6b2 [knetworkmanager9] Convert various wireless elements to the new TDE API 0216dae7 [tdelibs] Make access point notifications more extensible 60ee06f2 [tdelibs] Add friendly ssid function 8f5ad894 [tdelibs] Ensure that an inactive access point is reported as such d4745d88 [tdelibs] Add wireless AP detect signals d3cfdd24 [tdelibs] Populate wiFiDeviceInfo 4c698087 [knetworkmanager9] More conversion to new TDE API fe3dbd6e [tdelibs] Add active connection UUID to device 86febbf3 [tdelibs] Add connection to device lookup routines 9265fa10 [knetworkmanager9] Remove more unneeded files and start conversion to TDE network API 495b5680 [tdebase] Fix links in Konqueror launch page. 50a9b042 [tdelibs] Add more descriptive TDENetworkGlobalManagerFlags::BackendUnavailable type aaaec8b3 [tdelibs] Add global networking state control 8c96ed26 [gwenview-i18n] Update docbook headers and nominal branding updates. 322ce9a8 [gwenview] Nominal branding updates to support gwenview-i18n. 082adfa5 [knetworkmanager9] Attempt to reorganize the directory structure c25624f6 [tdebase] Use a pretty mount path if possible adea4c59 [tdelibs] Fix pmount when special characters are requested c881335c [tdebase] Fix incorrect removable device icons 5a2c0651 [tdelibs] Fix removable device classification d36f6096 [tdebase] Fix TDEHWLib media backend user device labels 1aff95bf [tdebase] Fix missing Mounting dialog in device icon Properties when TDEHW is used rather than HAL. d4708f71 [tdelibs] Add cellular modem settings 24eca025 [tdebase] Add some error traps to the r14-xdg-update script. 589db866 [tdelibs] Add bluetooth, olpcmesh, etc. 2c0153b9 [tqt3] Automated update from Qt3 6c72a84e [qt3] Fix slider draw hang 821d7de7 [tde-style-qtcurve] Revert style and class names to QtCurve. 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2012/10/8 Calvin Morrisonmutantturkey@gmail.com
On 7 October 2012 14:24, Ji=C5=99=C3=AD J=C3=A1nsk=C3=BD<janskyj@gmail.c=
om> wrote:
Hi everybody,
I am using Slavek's personal repository and it isn't fast like other european mirror. There was call for donation too.
I think, I should be able to negotiated some server(s) inside Czech Technical University (http://www.siliconhill.cz/en/) that could by use
as
build, storage etc... Are you interested for this form of "donation"? I would be my way how t=
o
contribute to trinity...
Regards Ji=C5=99=C3=AD J=C3=A1nsk=C3=BD
Yes!
That would be awesome, we are in need of server space and bandwidth :)
Could you be more accurate? How much space would trinity project use? How many cpu power? Simple little more information ;)
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/10/8 Calvin Morrison<span dir=3D"ltr"><= <a href=3D"mailto:mutantturkey@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mutantturkey@gm= ail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div>On 7 October 2012 14:24, Ji=C5=99=C3=AD J=C3=A1nsk=C3=BD<<a h= ref=3D"mailto:janskyj@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">janskyj@gmail.com</a>>= ; wrote:<br> > Hi everybody,<br>
><br> > I am using Slavek's personal repository and it isn't fast like= other<br> > european mirror. There was call for donation too.<br> ><br> > I think, I should be able to negotiated some server(s) inside Czech<br=
> Technical University (<a href=3D"http://www.siliconhill.cz/en/" target= =3D"_blank">http://www.siliconhill.cz/en/</a>) that could by use as<br> > build, storage etc...<br>
> Are you interested for this form of"donation"? I would be m= y way how to<br> > contribute to trinity...<br> ><br> > Regards<br> > Ji=C5=99=C3=AD J=C3=A1nsk=C3=BD<br>
<br> </div></div>Yes!<br> <br> That would be awesome, we are in need of server space and bandwidth :)<br>
</blockquote></div><br>Could you be more accurate? How much space would tri= nity project use? How many cpu power? Simple little more information ;)<br>= <br>
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*** Trinity News ***
The final preparations for SRU 3.5.13.1 are in progress. The official release should be announced within the upcoming days.
There has been some successful preliminary progress compiling Trinity on ARM hardware.
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*** Enhancement Requests Fulfilled ***
549 knetworkmanager needs rewrite for network-manager API 0.9 and higher 611 xz support in konqueror 1195 Desktop icon 'My computer'
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*** Formal Bug Reports Resolved ***
178 ISO files should double-click open with kio_iso 482 openoffice.org-kde-trinity request 521 Trinity networking breaks with network-manager 0.9 632 Keramik window decoration does not work 672 kmymoney crashes on startup 763 KControl: Pressing the Apply button always stops the Media Notifier Daemon 1063 Build issue: #error "Only<glib.h> can be included directly." 1109 Build issue: Cannot choose QtCurve style 1178 KHelpCenter Application Manuals Missing 3.5.13-sru 1198 kmymoney crashes on start 1212 programs cannot talk to klauncher 1223 Keramic theme is broken 1228 Konsole as SuperUser 1235 Kmail: Occasional endless loop with IMAP checking
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*** Other Bugs Resolved and Patches ***
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2712dc64 [tdebindings] Fix build on Ruby 1.9.1 and 1.9.2. 6b4b40b1 [knetworkmanager9] Remove spurious files and configure checks c5e51f86 [adept] Fix FTBFS d2480b90 [tdelibs] Fix pictbridge camera detection. Add new device matching rules 5feb80c8 [tqt3] Automated update from Qt3 467f30f2 [experimental] Fix TQt3 compile time checks b1346b88 [tdelibs] Correctly parse cpuinfo on ARM devices b0b8e4ed [koffice] Add missing file 1e3ae086 [koffice] Fix FTBFS 2d502174 [knetworkmanager9] Remove spurious hal check cc278836 [koffice] Attempt to make kross compile with Ruby 1.9.x 4eb88cc2 [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Fix a few graphical glitches 095f615a [amarok] Fix FTBFS on x86 systems 58823f36 [tdebase] Add sanity checks to the migratekde3 script before trying to run certain sections. 44273426 [amarok] Fix format not a string literal security error in rb_raise d9227e46 [amarok] Fix build system for ruby>= 1.9 5828c385 [tdelibs] Fix TDEHW crash when cpufreq not available c2fb6050 [krusader] Fix inadvertent tqt changes. e09b1f3d [tdepim] Fix the addquotes/removequots functions in libkmime 8ade4e21 [k3b] Update libisofs to read files greater than 2GB 1f33dc8f [tdebase] Attempt to minimize the time in which new notifications are displayed before being hidden 57f5c069 [tdebase] Lower override redirect windows instead of unmapping them on lock start. Restore lowered windows on lock exit b59fdf2c [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Fix QtOctave failure and MDI pixmap problems 4f0b6320 [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Attempt to work around Qt 4.8 bug in fromX11Pixmap when masks are converted 553923b2 [tdebase] Forcibly prevent transient override redirect windows from showing up over the lock screen a901a123 [tdebindings] Fix FTBFS on x86 systems 10fc891a [tdebindings] Fix Ruby detection when .pc file is ruby-1.9 2f6e9c73 [tdebindings] Fall back to ruby-1.9 pkgconfig file if needed 2b324e26 [kdpkg] Fix QString -> TQString. f3d9fa8c [kerry] Fix QString -> TQString. 2b39cdb5 [knetworkmanager9] Fix QString -> TQString. 78196c12 [knetworkmanager8] Fix QString -> TQString. 9ee1344e [kpowersave-nohal] Fix QString -> TQString. 1b4d7e54 [kbfx] Fix QString -> TQString. 3a60e3ce [potracegui] Fix QString -> TQString. e827f8d5 [tdesvn] Fix QString -> TQString. 688d0e84 [kvpnc] Fix QString -> TQString. 0b1f7817 [kpowersave] Fix QString -> TQString. 4b5d02a2 [kbookreader] Fix QString -> TQString. 013e6b26 [kmyfirewall] Fix QString -> TQString. 5bf9c2d7 [basket] Fix QString -> TQString. 58664773 [ktorrent] Fix QString -> TQString. 718b3af0 [kipi-plugins] Fix QString -> TQString. 3c352d5e [koffice] Fix QString -> TQString. 1c60648f [k3b] Fix QString -> TQString. 31784539 [tdesdk] Fix QString -> TQString. 95248100 [tdepim] Fix QString -> TQString. 685de864 [tdewebdev] Fix QString -> TQString. 70a3c0d9 [tdevelop] Fix QString -> TQString. d513bace [tdeedu] Fix QString -> TQString. 75bf0c9d [tdetoys] Fix QString -> TQString. 3d2141c8 [tdeartwork] Fix QString -> TQString. 9a680e5c [tdenetwork] Fix QString -> TQString. 492b084f [tdeadmin] Fix QString -> TQString. 1474ae14 [tdemultimedia] Fix QString -> TQString. c4d066ff [tdeutils] Fix QString -> TQString. eef9817d [tdeaccessibility] Fix QString -> TQString. 249c80de [tdebase] Fix QString -> TQString. 5242023c [tdelibs] Fix QString -> TQString. 47414903 [koffice-i18n] Rebranding of Krita as Chalk 933690a7 [tde-i18n] Rebranding of Krita as Chalk 0fef2b78 [tdebase] Rebranding of Krita as Chalk 9e0a5e72 [tdelibs] Rebranding of Krita as Chalk 7d8cc6ed [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Fix potential crash when TDE integration is disabled efdff81c [admin] Allow build to proceed even if libhpi.so is not present def58d42 [tdebase] Update migratekde3 script to partially resolve bug report 1210 6f0ebd61 [tdeaddons] Fix xz support in konqueror context popup menu. 01c61997 [tdelibs] Make KFileDialog fit on the screen when a large filter string or URL is provided 03e93296 [tdegraphics] Use poppler pkg-config information when running version checks 2fcd8b3d [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Fix corrupt application name and crash on exit 4623775a [tqt3] Automated update from Qt3 1faf4cf7 [qt3] Fix focus rectangle drawing on external paint device b9daa01a [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Add widget cache and fix checkboxes and pushbuttons db0c7b24 [qt4-tqt-theme-engine] Speed up theme engine 2b586b80 [tdelibs] Fix Asteroid 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On Sunday 21 October 2012 19:10:40 oldlaptop wrote:
Timothy Pearson wrote:
This *should* be fixed as of a week or two ago; can you confirm? Thanks! Tim
I have just gotten two bounce warnings, both from trinity-users:
+½ - I got one.
Lisi
I suggest you use an Email provider other than AOL for your mailing list subscriptions; the error code that AOL blocked your messages with is not caused by the TDE mail server and is detailed at this link: http://postmaster.aol.com/Postmaster.Errors.php#554conb1
Tim
On Sunday 21 October 2012 21:23:21 Timothy Pearson wrote:
On Sunday 21 October 2012 19:10:40 oldlaptop wrote:
Timothy Pearson wrote:
This *should* be fixed as of a week or two ago; can you confirm? Thanks! Tim
I have just gotten two bounce warnings, both from trinity-users:
+½ - I got one.
Lisi
I suggest you use an Email provider other than AOL for your mailing list subscriptions; the error code that AOL blocked your messages with is not caused by the TDE mail server and is detailed at this link: http://postmaster.aol.com/Postmaster.Errors.php#554conb1
I don't use AOL, and although I receive through Gmail, I send through my ISP, Zen, which is definitely reputable.
vali.starlink.edu Is nothing to do with me, so far as I know.
Shall I just go back to ignoring them?
Or should I change to a Zen address for this list? Lisi
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I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at trinity-users-owner@lists.pearsoncomputing.net.
Messages to you from the trinity-users mailing list seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received.
If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces, I will remove your address from the trinity-users mailing list, without further notice.
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Here are the message numbers:
3739 3741 3746
--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
Return-Path: MAILER-DAEMON@vali.starlink.edu Received: (qmail 14461 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 Received: by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) id 357B04560241; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Auto-Submitted: auto-replied MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: 20121006012955.357B04560241@mail.pearsoncomputing.net
This is a MIME-encapsulated message.
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lisi.reisz@gmail.com: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.142.27] said: 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. u15si3064128igi.43 (in reply to end of DATA command)
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Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.pearsoncomputing.net X-Postfix-Queue-ID: B5CA5456023F X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:53 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; lisi.reisz@gmail.com Original-Recipient: rfc822;lisi.reisz@gmail.com Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. u15si3064128igi.43
--B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net Content-Description: Undelivered Message Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Return-Path: trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CA5456023F for lisi.reisz@gmail.com; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:53 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pearsoncomputing.net Received: from mail.pearsoncomputing.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vali.starlink.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9ypyMJX1Z3DV for lisi.reisz@gmail.com; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vali.starlink.edu (vali.starlink.edu [192.168.1.21]) by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BCFF445602C0 for lisi.reisz@gmail.com; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 13432 invoked by uid 1002); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:23 -0500 Mailing-List: contact trinity-users-help@lists.pearsoncomputing.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: mailto:trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net List-Help: mailto:trinity-users-help@lists.pearsoncomputing.net List-Unsubscribe: mailto:trinity-users-unsubscribe@lists.pearsoncomputing.net List-Subscribe: mailto:trinity-users-subscribe@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Reply-To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Delivered-To: mailing list trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Received: (qmail 13426 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:23 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pearsoncomputing.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at mx4.operationenterprise.com X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 mx4.operationenterprise.com 3FAD7222457 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=jonz.net; s=default; t=1349486957; bh=L3wwduUUUtuD+pbXe6ScPiRJe5nDZ72EeDXrpK8SPdo=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=TW4C/lBLY8dzvlbDNJtkUw6UpsmI9RCMWBktKzAzCPDVWgLrN1C6GvjzLJKBYmk0D C97sHXp3xkdbYpMeuk08PbXQzqcZlLTeN8RMqN9SPE1q8wm0zJsTgBPL3rSKqw4D7r pUYgoKDPp/pzY54pcsooWgUoVGpCB56CbnqaSaMs= Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 19:29:16 -0600 (MDT) From: Jonesy trinity@jonz.net To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net In-Reply-To: CA+K=-Ff52mng_7h8gPVL89LfQXeNNqYiZ4JEQokM_7LqEk3V0w@mail.gmail.com Message-ID: alpine.BSF.2.02.1210051919160.88657@icf.wbam.arg References: CA+K=-Ff52mng_7h8gPVL89LfQXeNNqYiZ4JEQokM_7LqEk3V0w@mail.gmail.com User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (BSF 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Robert Xu wrote:
Huh? So you are intentionally having emails bounce?
Huh? No.
The receiving MTA at my ISP rejected an email from the list with:
Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 0CC704560250 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3521-trinity=jonz.net@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:04:39 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; trinity@jonz.net Original-Recipient: rfc822;trinity@jonz.net Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; mx4.operationenterprise.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 sender domain does not exist
My (email) ISP said "sender domain does not exist".
Here's one that Robert Xu inquired of me about (because it was from the list -- my list message being sent on to him.)
Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 8701F456024E X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3629-robxu9=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:35:17 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; robxu9@gmail.com Original-Recipient: rfc822;robxu9@gmail.com Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. k2si7073925igo.55
Xu's email provider (Gmail) reported "Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain."
Lisi also reported a "warning from trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net" on September 22, but she did not inlude the report body showing the reason for the rejection. She showed the headers from the email notifying her of the rejection -- not the rejection report. (At least that's what I see at http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3615 )
I get one rejection notification every 10 days or so. So far the "warning from trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net" makes it to me and, so, ezmlm does not think me to be a 'hard bounce' (a no-longer-valid email addy.)
One thing: I've been on the list since, maybe, back in April (or earlier), and I only think I've seen this 'problem' in the last 2 months or so.
Jonesy
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On Sunday 21 October 2012 21:23:21 Timothy Pearson wrote:
On Sunday 21 October 2012 19:10:40 oldlaptop wrote:
Timothy Pearson wrote:
This *should* be fixed as of a week or two ago; can you confirm? Thanks! Tim
I have just gotten two bounce warnings, both from trinity-users:
+½ - I got one.
Lisi
I suggest you use an Email provider other than AOL for your mailing list subscriptions; the error code that AOL blocked your messages with is not caused by the TDE mail server and is detailed at this link: http://postmaster.aol.com/Postmaster.Errors.php#554conb1
I don't use AOL, and although I receive through Gmail, I send through my ISP, Zen, which is definitely reputable.
vali.starlink.edu Is nothing to do with me, so far as I know.
Shall I just go back to ignoring them?
Or should I change to a Zen address for this list? Lisi
I pulled the AOL address from within the messages forwarded to the list, so apparently that particular AOL message must have from someone else who has had trouble in the past. For clarity, can you please forward to me the last bounce message you have received in its entirety so that I can investigate the issue?
Thanks!
Tim
On Monday 22 October 2012 02:27:03 Timothy Pearson wrote:
On Sunday 21 October 2012 21:23:21 Timothy Pearson wrote:
On Sunday 21 October 2012 19:10:40 oldlaptop wrote:
Timothy Pearson wrote:
This *should* be fixed as of a week or two ago; can you confirm? Thanks! Tim
I have just gotten two bounce warnings, both from trinity-users:
+½ - I got one.
Lisi
I suggest you use an Email provider other than AOL for your mailing list subscriptions; the error code that AOL blocked your messages with is not caused by the TDE mail server and is detailed at this link: http://postmaster.aol.com/Postmaster.Errors.php#554conb1
I don't use AOL, and although I receive through Gmail, I send through my ISP, Zen, which is definitely reputable.
vali.starlink.edu Is nothing to do with me, so far as I know.
Shall I just go back to ignoring them?
Or should I change to a Zen address for this list? Lisi
I pulled the AOL address from within the messages forwarded to the list, so apparently that particular AOL message must have from someone else who has had trouble in the past. For clarity, can you please forward to me the last bounce message you have received in its entirety so that I can investigate the issue?
Here is the text: ---------------------------------------------------- Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at trinity-users-owner@lists.pearsoncomputing.net.
Messages to you from the trinity-users mailing list seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received.
If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces, I will remove your address from the trinity-users mailing list, without further notice.
Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request), send an empty message to: trinity-users-get.123_145@lists.pearsoncomputing.net
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Here are the message numbers:
3739 3741 3746
--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
Return-Path: MAILER-DAEMON@vali.starlink.edu Received: (qmail 14461 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 Received: by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) id 357B04560241; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Auto-Submitted: auto-replied MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: 20121006012955.357B04560241@mail.pearsoncomputing.net
This is a MIME-encapsulated message.
--B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net Content-Description: Notification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
This is the mail system at host mail.pearsoncomputing.net.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
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lisi.reisz@gmail.com: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.142.27] said: 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. u15si3064128igi.43 (in reply to end of DATA command)
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Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.pearsoncomputing.net X-Postfix-Queue-ID: B5CA5456023F X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:53 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; lisi.reisz@gmail.com Original-Recipient: rfc822;lisi.reisz@gmail.com Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. u15si3064128igi.43
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On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Robert Xu wrote:
Huh? So you are intentionally having emails bounce?
Huh? No.
The receiving MTA at my ISP rejected an email from the list with:
Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 0CC704560250 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3521-trinity=jonz.net@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:04:39 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; trinity@jonz.net Original-Recipient: rfc822;trinity@jonz.net Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; mx4.operationenterprise.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 sender domain does not exist
My (email) ISP said "sender domain does not exist".
Here's one that Robert Xu inquired of me about (because it was from the list -- my list message being sent on to him.)
Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 8701F456024E X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3629-robxu9=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:35:17 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; robxu9@gmail.com Original-Recipient: rfc822;robxu9@gmail.com Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. k2si7073925igo.55
Xu's email provider (Gmail) reported "Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain."
Lisi also reported a "warning from trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net" on September 22, but she did not inlude the report body showing the reason for the rejection. She showed the headers from the email notifying her of the rejection -- not the rejection report. (At least that's what I see at http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3615 )
I get one rejection notification every 10 days or so. So far the "warning from trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net" makes it to me and, so, ezmlm does not think me to be a 'hard bounce' (a no-longer-valid email addy.)
One thing: I've been on the list since, maybe, back in April (or earlier), and I only think I've seen this 'problem' in the last 2 months or so.
Jonesy
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Thanks!
Tim
HTH Lisi
On Monday 22 October 2012 02:27:03 Timothy Pearson wrote:
On Sunday 21 October 2012 21:23:21 Timothy Pearson wrote:
On Sunday 21 October 2012 19:10:40 oldlaptop wrote:
Timothy Pearson wrote: > This *should* be fixed as of a week or two ago; can you confirm? > Thanks! Tim
I have just gotten two bounce warnings, both from trinity-users:
+½ - I got one.
Lisi
I suggest you use an Email provider other than AOL for your mailing
list
subscriptions; the error code that AOL blocked your messages with is
not
caused by the TDE mail server and is detailed at this link: http://postmaster.aol.com/Postmaster.Errors.php#554conb1
I don't use AOL, and although I receive through Gmail, I send through
my
ISP, Zen, which is definitely reputable.
vali.starlink.edu Is nothing to do with me, so far as I know.
Shall I just go back to ignoring them?
Or should I change to a Zen address for this list? Lisi
I pulled the AOL address from within the messages forwarded to the list, so apparently that particular AOL message must have from someone else who has had trouble in the past. For clarity, can you please forward to me the last bounce message you have received in its entirety so that I can investigate the issue?
Here is the text:
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at trinity-users-owner@lists.pearsoncomputing.net.
Messages to you from the trinity-users mailing list seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received.
If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces, I will remove your address from the trinity-users mailing list, without further notice.
Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request), send an empty message to: trinity-users-get.123_145@lists.pearsoncomputing.net
To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages, send an empty message to: trinity-users-index@lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Here are the message numbers:
3739 3741 3746
--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
Return-Path: MAILER-DAEMON@vali.starlink.edu Received: (qmail 14461 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 Received: by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) id 357B04560241; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Auto-Submitted: auto-replied MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: 20121006012955.357B04560241@mail.pearsoncomputing.net
This is a MIME-encapsulated message.
--B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net Content-Description: Notification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
This is the mail system at host mail.pearsoncomputing.net.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail systemlisi.reisz@gmail.com: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.142.27] said: 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. u15si3064128igi.43 (in reply to end of DATA command)
<snip>
From what I can see, this means that Google temporarily blocked all messages from the TDE server, presumably for spam concerns. This seems to happen from time to time with other mailing lists as well, and all I can really suggest is to use a provider that is more list-friendly.
Tim
On Monday 22 October 2012 17:58:20 Timothy Pearson wrote:
From what I can see, this means that Google temporarily blocked all messages from the TDE server, presumably for spam concerns. This seems to happen from time to time with other mailing lists as well, and all I can really suggest is to use a provider that is more list-friendly.
For now, I'm happy to just go on ignoring it! If it actually unsubscribes me, I shall have to think again.
Thanks, Tim.
Lisi
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Lisi wrote:
Looking at Lisi's bounce results (and seeing that it was a message from _me_ to the list), I notice that the (only) DKIM-Signature in the headers was _mine_ going out of _my_ ISP to the listserver. There is _no_ DKIM-Signature: from the outbound operation from the listserver. So, any DKIM checking on that email's headers would be invalid. I.e., trinity@jonz.net is NOT authorized to send an email from vali.starlink.edu -- as interpreted by Gmail.
I believe there should be an additional DKIM-Signature: inserted (added) by vali.starlink.edu (or mail.pearsoncomputing.net) to correct Gmail "550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain" bounces. One Ref: https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=97354
-- especially the last post there.
Anyway, that'sa what I'm a'thinkin...
Jonesy
from Lisi:
Here is the text:
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at trinity-users-owner@lists.pearsoncomputing.net.
Messages to you from the trinity-users mailing list seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received.
If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces, I will remove your address from the trinity-users mailing list, without further notice.
Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request), send an empty message to: trinity-users-get.123_145@lists.pearsoncomputing.net
To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages, send an empty message to: trinity-users-index@lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Here are the message numbers:
3739 3741 3746
--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
Return-Path: MAILER-DAEMON@vali.starlink.edu Received: (qmail 14461 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 Received: by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) id 357B04560241; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Auto-Submitted: auto-replied MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: 20121006012955.357B04560241@mail.pearsoncomputing.net
This is a MIME-encapsulated message.
--B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net Content-Description: Notification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
This is the mail system at host mail.pearsoncomputing.net.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail systemlisi.reisz@gmail.com: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.142.27] said: 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. u15si3064128igi.43 (in reply to end of DATA command)
--B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net Content-Description: Delivery report Content-Type: message/delivery-status
Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.pearsoncomputing.net X-Postfix-Queue-ID: B5CA5456023F X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:53 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; lisi.reisz@gmail.com Original-Recipient: rfc822;lisi.reisz@gmail.com Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. u15si3064128igi.43
--B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net Content-Description: Undelivered Message Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Return-Path: trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CA5456023F for lisi.reisz@gmail.com; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:53 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pearsoncomputing.net Received: from mail.pearsoncomputing.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vali.starlink.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9ypyMJX1Z3DV for lisi.reisz@gmail.com; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vali.starlink.edu (vali.starlink.edu [192.168.1.21]) by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BCFF445602C0 for lisi.reisz@gmail.com; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 13432 invoked by uid 1002); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:23 -0500 Mailing-List: contact trinity-users-help@lists.pearsoncomputing.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: mailto:trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net List-Help: mailto:trinity-users-help@lists.pearsoncomputing.net List-Unsubscribe: mailto:trinity-users-unsubscribe@lists.pearsoncomputing.net List-Subscribe: mailto:trinity-users-subscribe@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Reply-To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Delivered-To: mailing list trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Received: (qmail 13426 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:23 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pearsoncomputing.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at mx4.operationenterprise.com X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 mx4.operationenterprise.com 3FAD7222457 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=jonz.net; s=default; t=1349486957; bh=L3wwduUUUtuD+pbXe6ScPiRJe5nDZ72EeDXrpK8SPdo=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=TW4C/lBLY8dzvlbDNJtkUw6UpsmI9RCMWBktKzAzCPDVWgLrN1C6GvjzLJKBYmk0D C97sHXp3xkdbYpMeuk08PbXQzqcZlLTeN8RMqN9SPE1q8wm0zJsTgBPL3rSKqw4D7r pUYgoKDPp/pzY54pcsooWgUoVGpCB56CbnqaSaMs= Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 19:29:16 -0600 (MDT) From: Jonesy trinity@jonz.net To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net In-Reply-To: CA+K=-Ff52mng_7h8gPVL89LfQXeNNqYiZ4JEQokM_7LqEk3V0w@mail.gmail.com Message-ID: alpine.BSF.2.02.1210051919160.88657@icf.wbam.arg References: CA+K=-Ff52mng_7h8gPVL89LfQXeNNqYiZ4JEQokM_7LqEk3V0w@mail.gmail.com User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (BSF 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Robert Xu wrote:
Huh? So you are intentionally having emails bounce?
Huh? No.
The receiving MTA at my ISP rejected an email from the list with:
Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 0CC704560250 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3521-trinity=jonz.net@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:04:39 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; trinity@jonz.net Original-Recipient: rfc822;trinity@jonz.net Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; mx4.operationenterprise.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 sender domain does not exist
My (email) ISP said "sender domain does not exist".
Here's one that Robert Xu inquired of me about (because it was from the list -- my list message being sent on to him.)
Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 8701F456024E X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3629-robxu9=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:35:17 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; robxu9@gmail.com Original-Recipient: rfc822;robxu9@gmail.com Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. k2si7073925igo.55
Xu's email provider (Gmail) reported "Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain."
Lisi also reported a "warning from trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net" on September 22, but she did not inlude the report body showing the reason for the rejection. She showed the headers from the email notifying her of the rejection -- not the rejection report. (At least that's what I see at http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3615 )
I get one rejection notification every 10 days or so. So far the "warning from trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net" makes it to me and, so, ezmlm does not think me to be a 'hard bounce' (a no-longer-valid email addy.)
One thing: I've been on the list since, maybe, back in April (or earlier), and I only think I've seen this 'problem' in the last 2 months or so.
Jonesy
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