Hello Collective
As I said previously, I'm rebuilding my primary computer. I've contacted several board makers and only gigabyte replied so far. Below is their offerings for threadripper cpus. I'd like opinions and why.
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/AMD-TRX40
Thanks to all in advance,
Kate
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On Monday 24 August 2020 17.54:13 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
Hello Collective
As I said previously, I'm rebuilding my primary computer. I've contacted several board makers and only gigabyte replied so far. Below is their offerings for threadripper cpus. I'd like opinions and why.
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/AMD-TRX40
Thanks to all in advance,
Kate
I don't know anything about threadripper but almost all my motherboards are from Gigabyte and, while there were small quirks here and there they proved reliable in any situation (including hackintoshes and, more recently, the revived OS/2 Felix Miata had pointed to). Peronnaly I would go for Gigabyte.
Thierry
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As someone who recently got a Ryzen 3900X I have to warn you about the thermals on AMD CPUs, though you probably know this already. Plan for a decent cooling!
As for the MoBo itself, I'm on ASUS. Go the most expensive ITX MoBo on the market (not because I wanted but because no other ITX boards for AMD were available due to pandemic). It died after a week. Replacement that I received was used (covered in smears and fluid stains). The second replacement works fine so far.
Janek
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On Tuesday 25 August 2020 05:30:37 am Janek Stolarek wrote:
As someone who recently got a Ryzen 3900X I have to warn you about the thermals on AMD CPUs, though you probably know this already. Plan for a decent cooling!
As for the MoBo itself, I'm on ASUS. Go the most expensive ITX MoBo on the market (not because I wanted but because no other ITX boards for AMD were available due to pandemic). It died after a week. Replacement that I received was used (covered in smears and fluid stains). The second replacement works fine so far.
I got an AMD Ryzen 7 2700X a couple years ago, it runs very cool (fan hardly ever kicks above idle), but I also went with the biggest, quietest CPU cooler and bought an over sized case to fit it. I also went with the ‘buy a somewhat more expensive’ motherboard (ASRock X470 Taichi) than I need route. Never had any problems with it.
I missed what you’re trying to do with your new system, (and you probably already know everything below), but here’s the usual suspects of where/how to pick parts and get the cheapest prices:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/socketType.html https://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/high_end_drives.html https://pcpartpicker.com/
Biggest system improvement seems to be getting the latest gen NVMe drive.
Send me a PM if you want my build list (It’ll be a couple years out of date though). I should have my pcpartpicker list somewhere...
Best, Michael
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Surprised you have cooling issues. I have a 2600 myself even playing games it rarely if ever climbs over 65c.
Surprised you have cooling issues. I have a 2600 myself even playing games it rarely if ever climbs over 65c.
Firstly, 2600 is 2nd gen I believe, which is a different story. Secondly, gaming isn't CPU-intensive since it only puts a load on a single core. In gaming my CPU rarely goes above 65, but in stress-testing it goes as high as 85C. During "idle" desktop work (email, web browsing, simple work in a terminal) the temperatures are in the range of 45-50C. They don't really go above 50C since the fans speed at up at this point and keep the temperature in check.
Janek
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On Tuesday 25 August 2020, Michael wrote:
On Tuesday 25 August 2020 05:30:37 am Janek Stolarek wrote:
As someone who recently got a Ryzen 3900X I have to warn you about the thermals on AMD CPUs, though you probably know this already. Plan for a decent cooling!
As for the MoBo itself, I'm on ASUS. Go the most expensive ITX MoBo on the market (not because I wanted but because no other ITX boards for AMD were available due to pandemic). It died after a week. Replacement that I received was used (covered in smears and fluid stains). The second replacement works fine so far.
I got an AMD Ryzen 7 2700X a couple years ago, it runs very cool (fan hardly ever kicks above idle), but I also went with the biggest, quietest CPU cooler and bought an over sized case to fit it. I also went with the ‘buy a somewhat more expensive’ motherboard (ASRock X470 Taichi) than I need route. Never had any problems with it.
I missed what you’re trying to do with your new system, (and you probably already know everything below), but here’s the usual suspects of where/how to pick parts and get the cheapest prices:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/socketType.html https://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/high_end_drives.html https://pcpartpicker.com/
Biggest system improvement seems to be getting the latest gen NVMe drive.
Send me a PM if you want my build list (It’ll be a couple years out of date though). I should have my pcpartpicker list somewhere...
Best, Michael
Thanks Michael,
All input is welcome and appreciated.
Kate
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 11:54:13 -0400 "BorgLabs - Kate Draven" borglabs4@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Collective
As I said previously, I'm rebuilding my primary computer. I've contacted several board makers and only gigabyte replied so far. Below is their offerings for threadripper cpus. I'd like opinions and why.
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/AMD-TRX40
Thanks to all in advance,
I have a Threadripper 1900X (that's the early, low-end 8-core/16-thread offering that they dropped for later generations) and an ASUS Prime X399-A motherboard. That's a TR4 socket board, so if you're buying a 3rd generation Threadripper, you don't want that exact board—you'll need a TRX4 socket instead. I've never worked with Gigabyte boards specifically, so I can't comment on their build quality. ASUS sometimes has better reviews, but the difference seems small.
Even low-end Threadripper boards should be fairly well tricked out (in both useful and non-useful ways—I didn't really *want* those RGB LEDs . . .). The first thing I would consider is how many M.2/NVMe and SATA slots you need, and how many PCIe add-on board slots, because there's sometimes a tradeoff there. I notice that Gigabyte's site doesn't tell you how many plain SATA drives the boards accommodate (newegg gives 8xSATA for the Gigabyte Aorus Master).
The second thing I'd look at is how many of which kind of onboard USB headers the board has (2.0 VS 3 VS 3 with USB-C), and how many you need, keeping in mind that each header may support multiple ports.
The Gigabyte boards have built in WLAN—is this a feature you want? Otherwise they seem superficially similar to my non-WLAN ASUS board, with Realtek hi-def audio and Intel LAN chipsets . . . but there's one more thing you need to be careful of. While I'm not sure it's still true in this generation, many early Threadripper boards like mine use specific variants of the it87 sensor chip that are only supported under Linux by an unmaintained out-of-tree kernel driver that has to be specially loaded to suppress an ACPI conflict. Without a working driver for that chip, you can't get fan information. It's possible that doesn't matter to you, of course.
Overall, my Threadripper's always run cool (~30C is typical, ~60C if I'm compiling OpenOffice or something, and I've never seen it break 70C). That's in a large, moderately well-ventilated case with an unexceptional CPU fan.
Hope that helps in some way.
E. Liddell
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On Tuesday 25 August 2020, E. Liddell wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 11:54:13 -0400
"BorgLabs - Kate Draven" borglabs4@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Collective
As I said previously, I'm rebuilding my primary computer. I've contacted several board makers and only gigabyte replied so far. Below is their offerings for threadripper cpus. I'd like opinions and why.
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/AMD-TRX40
Thanks to all in advance,
I have a Threadripper 1900X (that's the early, low-end 8-core/16-thread offering that they dropped for later generations) and an ASUS Prime X399-A motherboard. That's a TR4 socket board, so if you're buying a 3rd generation Threadripper, you don't want that exact board—you'll need a TRX4 socket instead. I've never worked with Gigabyte boards specifically, so I can't comment on their build quality. ASUS sometimes has better reviews, but the difference seems small.
Even low-end Threadripper boards should be fairly well tricked out (in both useful and non-useful ways—I didn't really *want* those RGB LEDs . . .). The first thing I would consider is how many M.2/NVMe and SATA slots you need, and how many PCIe add-on board slots, because there's sometimes a tradeoff there. I notice that Gigabyte's site doesn't tell you how many plain SATA drives the boards accommodate (newegg gives 8xSATA for the Gigabyte Aorus Master).
The second thing I'd look at is how many of which kind of onboard USB headers the board has (2.0 VS 3 VS 3 with USB-C), and how many you need, keeping in mind that each header may support multiple ports.
The Gigabyte boards have built in WLAN—is this a feature you want? Otherwise they seem superficially similar to my non-WLAN ASUS board, with Realtek hi-def audio and Intel LAN chipsets . . . but there's one more thing you need to be careful of. While I'm not sure it's still true in this generation, many early Threadripper boards like mine use specific variants of the it87 sensor chip that are only supported under Linux by an unmaintained out-of-tree kernel driver that has to be specially loaded to suppress an ACPI conflict. Without a working driver for that chip, you can't get fan information. It's possible that doesn't matter to you, of course.
Overall, my Threadripper's always run cool (~30C is typical, ~60C if I'm compiling OpenOffice or something, and I've never seen it break 70C). That's in a large, moderately well-ventilated case with an unexceptional CPU fan.
Hope that helps in some way.
E. Liddell
Thanks Liddell, adding to the database.
Kate
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