On Saturday 19 October 2019 13:54:54 deloptes wrote: But no one has answered my question about how do I move a directory's contents en-mass to another directory by way of a dbus command. I need to move the contents of the spam directory by first deleting the contents of the spam-hold directory, and the move the contents of the spam directory into the spam-hold directory, a thing that is repeated each 24 hours by the script that drives sa-learn spam, and sa-learn ham over selected directory's. I had to pull teeth w/o novocain just to find out how to send kmail a go get mail command from my mailwatcher script, which uses inotifywait to see the closing of a mailfile in /var/spool/mail as its indicator that a new mail has arrived from a separate fetchmail->procmail process. If those rm's and mv's from outside of kmails knowledge, were converted to dbus commands to be executed by kmail, then nothing would disturb its database but kmails own actions. So, where do I find the real docs on how kmail responds to commands sent over dbus? That seems to be a secret, and it sucks dead toads thru soda straws. I just now rechecked the Handbook, and it has zero mention of dbus. So please explain how, and I WILL fix my scripts. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

Gene Heskett wrote: Let be more precise here - in your first if method you do something for kde4 or kde5 not tde. In kde3 and later in tde dcop is the message buss/interface between different applications. DBus emerged later and won the public, so kde4 and kde5 also gnome and most of the modern systems use it. I think the best way is to examine what interfaces are provided by which application in dcop. Maybe kdcop will help you. https://api.kde.org/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/dcop/html/index.html and some background here https://www.osnews.com/story/14768/kde-says-goodbye-to-dcop/

On Saturday 19 October 2019 15:30:44 Michael wrote: But there is no corresponding tome on dcop, but I did eventually stumble over kdcop, which is tde's version of kdcop, the only apparent diff being a tde credit line at the top of the file. This seems to give a couple of command lists when expanded, showing expected synatx to use. But kdcop claims they all have a null return. Sensibly for instance when you query for a list, one would expect at least a csv style list to be returned to the shell requesting the list. So the utility itself is incomplete, or kmails responce code was never written. And the tde handbooks entry for dcop is a one page apology because the handbook for dcop has never been written. And that only confirms my opinion of Ingo Klocker's inability to herd the bunch of cats he is in charge of at kde, to get the docs written and bugs fixed. Only truly showstopper bugs were ever looked at, and sometimes fixed. Thats why tde was forked in the first place, and lots of bugs have since been fixed. Thats rather hugely appreciated at this campsite. But is there any realistic hope of fixing kdcop and getting its Docs? written too? That last can be exceedingly difficult without figuratively installing an rj45 jack into the original coders brain. Been there, done that, lots of frustration trying to "get into the authors brain" while running down and fixing his mistakes. Having done that quite a few times when carving code was much simpler, I now, at 85 yo, bow down in awe of those who can do it. And you'll get a hand cooler if you show up at my front door, even if its my last one... Thank you all. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

On Saturday 19 October 2019 17:46:42 deloptes wrote: Humm, how would one translate this to that? #!/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/root/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/home/gene/bin # make this run as gene! Does # make sure the database is free killall fetchmail # wait for the spamd pipes to drain sleep 20 # do this dastardly deed sa-learn --ham /home/gene/Mail/ham/cur sa-learn --ham /home/gene/Mail/coco/cur sa-learn --ham /home/gene/Mail/Xorg/cur sa-learn --spam /home/gene/Mail/spam/cur # now, this stuff is trash, 24 hours old, kill it. rm -f /home/gene/Mail/spam-hold/cur/* # And move todays catch into Mail/spam-hold/cur for a 24 hour period # so I can retrieve it the next day if needed. mv /home/gene/Mail/spam/cur/* /home/gene/Mail/spam-hold/cur/ # Note, I leave the ham for moving where it really goes by hand # and restore fetchmail but let the disks synch first sleep 6 /usr/bin/fetchmail -d 120 --fetchmailrc /home/gene/.fetchmailrc Simple little script, usually takes about a minute to run. cron sends me an email. I delete it unless there has been an error. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>