9 Oct
2009
9 Oct
'09
11:04 p.m.
Hi,
It seems I'm still not able to sign up to Bugzilla. I don't get the sign
up e-mail when I fill in my address.
The reason the Kubuntu KDM theme doesn't show, is because the directory
kdm-settings in the source and when installed /etc/default/kdm.d is
missing from kubuntu-default-settings-kde3. Is there a reason this was
removed? It would be nice if it could be added back, so the Kubuntu
theme in KDM would work again.
Thanks,
Julius
9 Oct
9 Oct
11:08 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] Not receiving Bugzilla mail
Hi Julius,
That directory was removed because it *completely* breaks the ability to
change the theme to anything else.
Have you tried installing kdmtheme and selecting the Kubuntu theme from
the Control Center?
Tim
Hi,
It seems I'm still not able to sign up to Bugzilla. I don't get the sign
up e-mail when I fill in my address.
The reason the Kubuntu KDM theme doesn't show, is because the directory
kdm-settings in the source and when installed /etc/default/kdm.d is
missing from kubuntu-default-settings-kde3. Is there a reason this was
removed? It would be nice if it could be added back, so the Kubuntu
theme in KDM would work again.
Thanks,
Julius
11:20 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] Not receiving Bugzilla mail
Hi Tim,
Are you sure about that? I looked at the init script and it seems to do
a grep on the kdm config file. When you use the theme selector, it
should override the value causing the grep to fail and not include the
default theme.
Julius
kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Hi Julius,
That directory was removed because it *completely* breaks the ability to
change the theme to anything else.
Have you tried installing kdmtheme and selecting the Kubuntu theme from
the Control Center?
Tim
Hi,
It seems I'm still not able to sign up to Bugzilla. I don't get the sign
up e-mail when I fill in my address.
The reason the Kubuntu KDM theme doesn't show, is because the directory
kdm-settings in the source and when installed /etc/default/kdm.d is
missing from kubuntu-default-settings-kde3. Is there a reason this was
removed? It would be nice if it could be added back, so the Kubuntu
theme in KDM would work again.
Thanks,
Julius
11:52 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] Not receiving Bugzilla mail
Hi Julius,
I'll have to look into it further, but no, it wasn't working on any of the
machines I have access to. Maybe I missed something.
Tim
Hi Tim,
Are you sure about that? I looked at the init script and it seems to do
a grep on the kdm config file. When you use the theme selector, it
should override the value causing the grep to fail and not include the
default theme.
Julius
kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Hi Julius,
That directory was removed because it *completely* breaks the ability to
change the theme to anything else.
Have you tried installing kdmtheme and selecting the Kubuntu theme from
the Control Center?
Tim
Hi,
It seems I'm still not able to sign up to Bugzilla. I don't get the
sign
up e-mail when I fill in my address.
The reason the Kubuntu KDM theme doesn't show, is because the directory
kdm-settings in the source and when installed /etc/default/kdm.d is
missing from kubuntu-default-settings-kde3. Is there a reason this was
removed? It would be nice if it could be added back, so the Kubuntu
theme in KDM would work again.
Thanks,
Julius
10 Oct
10 Oct
12:37 a.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] Not receiving Bugzilla mail
Hi Tim,
On Hardy it seems to work properly with the script. (Seems I was
mistaken on how it exactly works in my earlier mail.)
After I used kdmtheme on Hardy I got an extra file
/etc/default/kde.d/30_kubuntu_default_settings, which contained the
settings for the new theme.
In Karmic, kdmtheme-kde3 changes the file /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc directly
however, which doesn't work together with the init script.
I also noticed an extra kubuntu_02_confchanges.diff patch for kdmtheme
in the Hardy source which is not Karmic source. I guess this may change
kdmtheme so it works with the scheme from the init script and
kubuntu-default-settings.
Julius
kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Hi Julius,
I'll have to look into it further, but no, it wasn't working on any of the
machines I have access to. Maybe I missed something.
Tim
Hi Tim,
Are you sure about that? I looked at the init script and it seems to do
a grep on the kdm config file. When you use the theme selector, it
should override the value causing the grep to fail and not include the
default theme.
Julius
kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Hi Julius,
That directory was removed because it *completely* breaks the ability to
change the theme to anything else.
Have you tried installing kdmtheme and selecting the Kubuntu theme from
the Control Center?
Tim
Hi,
It seems I'm still not able to sign up to Bugzilla. I don't get the
sign
up e-mail when I fill in my address.
The reason the Kubuntu KDM theme doesn't show, is because the directory
kdm-settings in the source and when installed /etc/default/kdm.d is
missing from kubuntu-default-settings-kde3. Is there a reason this was
removed? It would be nice if it could be added back, so the Kubuntu
theme in KDM would work again.
Thanks,
Julius
10:50 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] Not receiving Bugzilla mail
Hi Julius,
The problem should now be fixed; I have altered the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
file to use the kubuntu-kde3 theme by default.
Tim
Hi Tim,
On Hardy it seems to work properly with the script. (Seems I was
mistaken on how it exactly works in my earlier mail.)
After I used kdmtheme on Hardy I got an extra file
/etc/default/kde.d/30_kubuntu_default_settings, which contained the
settings for the new theme.
In Karmic, kdmtheme-kde3 changes the file /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc directly
however, which doesn't work together with the init script.
I also noticed an extra kubuntu_02_confchanges.diff patch for kdmtheme
in the Hardy source which is not Karmic source. I guess this may change
kdmtheme so it works with the scheme from the init script and
kubuntu-default-settings.
Julius
kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Hi Julius,
I'll have to look into it further, but no, it wasn't working on any of
the
machines I have access to. Maybe I missed something.
Tim
Hi Tim,
Are you sure about that? I looked at the init script and it seems to do
a grep on the kdm config file. When you use the theme selector, it
should override the value causing the grep to fail and not include the
default theme.
Julius
kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Hi Julius,
That directory was removed because it *completely* breaks the ability
to
change the theme to anything else.
Have you tried installing kdmtheme and selecting the Kubuntu theme
from
the Control Center?
Tim
> Hi,
>
> It seems I'm still not able to sign up to Bugzilla. I don't get the
> sign
> up e-mail when I fill in my address.
>
> The reason the Kubuntu KDM theme doesn't show, is because the
> directory
> kdm-settings in the source and when installed /etc/default/kdm.d is
> missing from kubuntu-default-settings-kde3. Is there a reason this
> was
> removed? It would be nice if it could be added back, so the Kubuntu
> theme in KDM would work again.
>
> Thanks,
> Julius
>
11 Nov
11 Nov
10:47 a.m.
New subject: KDE3 in Karmic still not fixed
The packages are still broken. For example trying to install KDE3
removes any Qt3 applications previously installed such as Gambas and
HBasic. Removing KDE3 also removes all Qt3 applications (including
Gambas).
Not compatible with nvidia-190 drivers, tries to remove them upon KDE3
install.
11:13 a.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] KDE3 in Karmic still not fixed
On Wednesday 11 November 2009 21:47, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
The packages are still broken. For example trying to
install KDE3
removes any Qt3 applications previously installed such as Gambas and
HBasic. Removing KDE3 also removes all Qt3 applications (including
Gambas).
Not compatible with nvidia-190 drivers, tries to remove them upon
KDE3 install.
Works with neither nvidia nor ATI cards for me. To be fair, I am
convinced all/most of the problems are due to the underlying Ubuntu
(rushed and botched) distro. Hopefully by 9.10.2 things will improve.
An aside - Karmic Koala has got to be the oxymoron-of-the-decade! For
those of you that have never had to handle one of those dirty, scruffy,
smelly, scratchy, piddly animals, I can assure you that there are few
thing with a less attractive karma.
Glen
11:19 a.m.
New subject: Re[2]: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] KDE3 in Karmic still not fixed
On Wednesday 11 November 2009 21:47, Ilya Chernykh
wrote:
The same problems were with Jaunty KDE3 release. So nothing new, just still not fixed.
The packages are still broken. For example trying
to install KDE3
removes any Qt3 applications previously installed such as Gambas and
HBasic. Removing KDE3 also removes all Qt3 applications (including
Gambas).
Not compatible with nvidia-190 drivers, tries to remove them upon
KDE3 install.
Works with neither nvidia nor ATI cards for me. To be fair, I am
convinced all/most of the problems are due to the underlying Ubuntu
(rushed and botched) distro. Hopefully by 9.10.2 things will improve.
An aside - Karmic Koala has got to be the oxymoron-of-the-decade! For
those of you that have never had to handle one of those dirty, scruffy,
smelly, scratchy, piddly animals, I can assure you that there are few
thing with a less attractive karma. 
10:48 p.m.
New subject: Re[2]: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] KDE3 in Karmic still not fixed
On 2009-11-11, Илья Черных <neptunia(a)mail.ru> wrote:
[..snip..]
The same problems were with Jaunty KDE3 release. So nothing new,
just still not fixed.
I respectfully disagree. I installed KDE3 on top of the Ubuntu-9.04
jaunty (GNOME) and it went very smoothly. I never installed KDE4.
However some KDE4 libraries got somehow installed but caused no
problems. Cannot comment on Karmic.
--Leo--
10:55 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] KDE3 in Karmic still not fixed - Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu
Am Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 23:48:32 schrieb Leo Razoumov:
On 2009-11-11, Илья Черных <neptunia(a)mail.ru>
wrote:
Why on earth did it never occur to me that one doesn't have to start with
*K*ubuntu in the first place...
There are no install media with only kde3 by chance?
--
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.12
GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a C++++ UL++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K-
w--(---) !O M+ V- PS+ PE Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@
b++(+++) DI+++ D- G++ e* h>++ r* y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
[..snip..]
The same problems were with Jaunty KDE3 release. So nothing new,
just still not fixed.
I respectfully disagree. I installed KDE3 on top of the Ubuntu-9.04
jaunty (GNOME) and it went very smoothly. I never installed KDE4.
11:56 p.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] KDE3 in Karmic still not fixed - Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu
On Wed, November 11, 2009 4:55 pm, Dexter Filmore wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 23:48:32 schrieb Leo
Razoumov:
http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/
On 2009-11-11, éÌØÑ þÅÒÎÙÈ
<neptunia(a)mail.ru> wrote:
Why on earth did it never occur to me that one doesn't have to start with
*K*ubuntu in the first place...
There are no install media with only kde3 by chance?
--
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.12
GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a C++++ UL++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K-
w--(---) !O M+ V- PS+ PE Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@
b++(+++) DI+++ D- G++ e* h>++ r* y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
[..snip..]
The same problems were with Jaunty KDE3 release. So nothing new,
just still not fixed.
I respectfully disagree. I installed KDE3 on top of the Ubuntu-9.04
jaunty (GNOME) and it went very smoothly. I never installed KDE4.
12 Nov
12 Nov
1:05 a.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] KDE3 in Karmic still not fixed - Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu
There are no install media with only kde3 by chance?
--
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.12
GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a C++++ UL++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K-
w--(---) !O M+ V- PS+ PE Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@
b++(+++) DI+++ D- G++ e* h>++ r* y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/
3:31 a.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] KDE3 in Karmic still not fixed - Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu
On Wed, November 11, 2009 7:05 pm, Dexter Filmore wrote:
Awesome. Can I use those to upgrade an exisitng 8.04?
--
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.12
GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a C++++ UL++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K-
w--(---) !O M+ V- PS+ PE Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@
b++(+++) DI+++ D- G++ e* h>++ r* y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
Not really, but you can follow the instructions here to upgrade from your
8.04 installation:
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Karmic#Upgrade%20from%208.04%20[Hardy…
There are no install media with only kde3 by chance?
--
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.12
GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a C++++ UL++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K-
w--(---) !O M+ V- PS+ PE Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@
b++(+++) DI+++ D- G++ e* h>++ r* y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/
11:06 a.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] KDE3 in Karmic still not fixed - Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu
>>
>> http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/
>
> Awesome. Can I use those to upgrade an exisitng 8.04?
>
Not really, but you can follow the instructions here to upgrade from your
8.04 installation:
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Karmic#Upgrade%20from%208.04%20[Hardy
%20Heron]
I know, but the idea of not introducing any kde4 packages into the system
intrigued me.
--
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.12
GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a C++++ UL++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K-
w--(---) !O M+ V- PS+ PE Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@
b++(+++) DI+++ D- G++ e* h>++ r* y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
23 Nov
23 Nov
2:04 a.m.
New subject: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] KDE3 in Karmic still not fixed - Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu
Wait, if you downloaded the Intrepid disc, then the Jaunty disc, and
then the Karmic disc, and did all the respective upgrades only using
the KDE3.5 remix disc for the repository, wouldn't that work? I'm
sure there's just something I don't know about here, though, but it
*sounds* like it would work.
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Dexter Filmore <Dexter.Filmore(a)gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>> http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/
>
> Awesome. Can I use those to upgrade an exisitng 8.04?
>
Not really, but you can follow the instructions here to upgrade from your
8.04 installation:
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Karmic#Upgrade%20from%208.04%20[Hardy
%20Heron]
I know, but the idea of not introducing any kde4 packages into the system
intrigued me.
--
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.12
GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a C++++ UL++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K-
w--(---) !O M+ V- PS+ PE Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@
b++(+++) DI+++ D- G++ e* h>++ r* y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
9:10 a.m.
New subject: please remove me!
I tried several times to get removed from this mailing-list, but it
didn't work. (I sent an empty mail to
kubuntu-kde3.5-users-unsubscribe(a)pearsoncomputing.net and another one to
the following "confirm unsubscribe"-mail)
Could someone (Tim) please do it manually?
Cheers,
Andreas
Keith Z-G schrieb:
Wait, if you downloaded the Intrepid disc, then the
Jaunty disc, and
then the Karmic disc, and did all the respective upgrades only using
the KDE3.5 remix disc for the repository, wouldn't that work? I'm
sure there's just something I don't know about here, though, but it
*sounds* like it would work.
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Dexter Filmore <Dexter.Filmore(a)gmx.de> wrote:
I know, but the idea of not introducing any kde4 packages into the
system
intrigued me.
--
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.12
GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a C++++ UL++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K-
w--(---) !O M+ V- PS+ PE Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@
b++(+++) DI+++ D- G++ e* h>++ r* y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
> http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/
Awesome. Can I use those to upgrade an exisitng 8.04?
Not really, but you can follow the instructions here to upgrade from your
8.04 installation:
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Karmic#Upgrade%20from%208.04%20[Hardy
%20Heron]
11 Nov
11 Nov
11:06 p.m.
New subject: Re[4]: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] KDE3 in Karmic still not fixed
So try to install Gambas and then KDE3.
11:56 p.m.
New subject: Re[6]: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] KDE3 in Karmic still not fixed
Then try to remove KDE3. It will remove Gambas and other Qt3 applications as well.
The point is that all Qt3 apps removed on both installation and deinstallation of KDE3.
12 Nov
12 Nov
12:05 a.m.
New subject: Re[6]: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] KDE3 in Karmic still not fixed
On 2009-11-11, Илья Черных <neptunia(a)mail.ru> wrote:
Then try to remove KDE3. It will remove Gambas and
other Qt3 applications as well.
The point is that all Qt3 apps removed on both installation and deinstallation of KDE3.
If you use synaptic package manager you have a fine-grained control of
what gets removed. Under "Custom Filters -> Marked Changes" you can
uncheck the packages slated for removal before hitting "apply" button.
Linux is still by and large a manually controlled OS. With apt-get,
dpkg and synaptic you can control your installed base to a great
degree.
--Leo--
1:24 a.m.
New subject: Re[8]: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] KDE3 in Karmic still not fixed
No you cannot uncheck removal of those packages without refusal to unstall kde3.
Even aptitude does not help.
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