Hi Gianluca,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 15:15 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
Thanks Jim for the tip on "flyspell mode".
Glad to help out.
What about paragraph justification? I remember it was Ctrl-J?
There is an emacs command "fill-paragraph", which is in the "fill" package. I have it bound to Alt-Q (which I think is the default binding, not Ctrl-J) but you can easily re-bind it to any key sequence you like. (Or, if for some reason you want to do it, you can bind any command to as many key sequences as you like.)
Can you set a specific line length, like in gvim I had set 93 characters per line?
The above paragraph was wrapped automagically according to my setting of "fill-column", which I have set to 70 for email messages.
If you want paragraphs justified, you can give an argument to fill-paragraph. For example, if I copy the above paragraph and type Ctrl-U Alt-Q, I get
There is an emacs command "fill-paragraph", which is in the "fill" package. I have it bound to Alt-Q (which I think is the default binding, not Ctrl-J) but you can easily re-bind it to any key sequence you like. (Or, if for some reason you want to do it, you can bind any command to as many key sequences as you like.)
Whether you like those results better than ragged-right is up to you, of course.
Cheers.
Jim
Hi Jim,
Whether you like those results better than ragged-right is up to you, of course.
I prefer "flush left" (not block mode), so the first example you gave. But I had also set gvim to not add an extra space after the period. I'm sure there is a way to set this also in emacs.
Gianluca
On Wed, 7 Sep 2022, Jim wrote:
Hi Gianluca,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 15:15 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
Thanks Jim for the tip on "flyspell mode".
Glad to help out.
What about paragraph justification? I remember it was Ctrl-J?
There is an emacs command "fill-paragraph", which is in the "fill" package. I have it bound to Alt-Q (which I think is the default binding, not Ctrl-J) but you can easily re-bind it to any key sequence you like. (Or, if for some reason you want to do it, you can bind any command to as many key sequences as you like.)
Can you set a specific line length, like in gvim I had set 93 characters per line?
The above paragraph was wrapped automagically according to my setting of "fill-column", which I have set to 70 for email messages.
If you want paragraphs justified, you can give an argument to fill-paragraph. For example, if I copy the above paragraph and type Ctrl-U Alt-Q, I get
There is an emacs command "fill-paragraph", which is in the "fill" package. I have it bound to Alt-Q (which I think is the default binding, not Ctrl-J) but you can easily re-bind it to any key sequence you like. (Or, if for some reason you want to do it, you can bind any command to as many key sequences as you like.)
Whether you like those results better than ragged-right is up to you, of course.
Cheers.
Jim
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Hi Gianluca,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 16:18 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
Hi Jim,
Whether you like those results better than ragged-right is up to you, of course.
I prefer "flush left" (not block mode),
When you used "justified", I incorrectly thought "filled". My bad.
so the first example you gave. But I had also set gvim to not add an extra space after the period. I'm sure there is a way to set this also in emacs.
I re-filled your paragraph above with fill-paragraph, and, as you see, there are not two spaces after the periods. There may be some setting which preserves two spaces if the paragraph already has two, but doesn't otherwise put two. So again, that should not be a problem.
Emacs (for better or worse) is pretty much infinitely customize-able. Sometimes it can be difficult to find out what needs to be customized, but I suspect you would have to have some truly pathological text editing needs in order to find something that isn't easy (easy once you know how, anyway) in emacs.
Cheers. Jim
Hi Jim,
Thanks a lot! I used xemacs a long time ago. But at some point there was a problem with it and I'm not sure it is still being developed? So I searched for a different editor and landed on gvim. I don't mind trying out a new editor now and going back to emacs-like, or emacs itself.
Gianluca
On Wed, 7 Sep 2022, Jim wrote:
Hi Gianluca,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 16:18 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
Hi Jim,
Whether you like those results better than ragged-right is up to you, of course.
I prefer "flush left" (not block mode),
When you used "justified", I incorrectly thought "filled". My bad.
so the first example you gave. But I had also set gvim to not add an extra space after the period. I'm sure there is a way to set this also in emacs.
I re-filled your paragraph above with fill-paragraph, and, as you see, there are not two spaces after the periods. There may be some setting which preserves two spaces if the paragraph already has two, but doesn't otherwise put two. So again, that should not be a problem.
Emacs (for better or worse) is pretty much infinitely customize-able. Sometimes it can be difficult to find out what needs to be customized, but I suspect you would have to have some truly pathological text editing needs in order to find something that isn't easy (easy once you know how, anyway) in emacs.
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Hi Gianluca,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 16:48 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
Thanks a lot! I used xemacs a long time ago. But at some point there was a problem with it and I'm not sure it is still being developed?
I don't think it is still being developed, but I could be wrong. I've never used xemacs, and I don't recall what the point of someone forking gnu emacs was.
So I searched for a different editor and landed on gvim. I don't mind trying out a new editor now and going back to emacs-like, or emacs itself.
I used vi long before I started using emacs, and I've only played with vim and gvim a little bit, but I do appreciate the improvements. Still, I prefer emacs, but talking about that too much could sound like the opening shot in an editor war. :-)
Cheers.
Jim
The other issue I'm having with OpenSUSE 15.3 is that xdvi no longer displays figures in a .dvi document (.dvi is the result of compiling a .tex document). I can use okular to display the .dvi document, but I miss how fast xdvi is. Can emacs also display .dvi documents? Are there any other fast viewers for .dvi documents?
Thanks,
Gianluca
On Wed, 7 Sep 2022, Jim wrote:
Hi Gianluca,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 16:48 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
Thanks a lot! I used xemacs a long time ago. But at some point there was a problem with it and I'm not sure it is still being developed?
I don't think it is still being developed, but I could be wrong. I've never used xemacs, and I don't recall what the point of someone forking gnu emacs was.
So I searched for a different editor and landed on gvim. I don't mind trying out a new editor now and going back to emacs-like, or emacs itself.
I used vi long before I started using emacs, and I've only played with vim and gvim a little bit, but I do appreciate the improvements. Still, I prefer emacs, but talking about that too much could sound like the opening shot in an editor war. :-)
Cheers.
Jim
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Hi Gianluca,
See below.
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 15:05 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
The other issue I'm having with OpenSUSE 15.3 is that xdvi no longer displays figures in a .dvi document (.dvi is the result of compiling a .tex document).
?
Do you mean xdvi does not work at all? Or that some content (text?) is displayed and not other (image?) content? If so, can you attach a concrete example to your next message?
I can use okular to display the .dvi document, but I miss how fast xdvi is.
It is fast, no doubt.
Can emacs also display .dvi documents? Are there any other fast viewers for .dvi documents?
I don't recall ever having seen anything to display .dvi files in emacs, so I just took a quick look. There are some packages that convert .dvi files to .png files and display those, but I doubt that you would find that faster than okular. On my system okular seems pretty fast (I looked at .../texlive/2021/texmf-dist/source/fontinst/base/fisource.dvi which is 224 pages and there was no laggyness I could detect, okular seemed more or less as fast as xdvi).
Perhaps there is something wrong with your openSUSE ?
Cheers. Jim
On Thu, 8 Sep 2022, Jim wrote:
Hi Gianluca,
See below.
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 15:05 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
The other issue I'm having with OpenSUSE 15.3 is that xdvi no longer displays figures in a .dvi document (.dvi is the result of compiling a .tex document).
?
Do you mean xdvi does not work at all? Or that some content (text?) is displayed and not other (image?) content? If so, can you attach a concrete example to your next message?
Text is displayed correctly. However, images are not shown, just a white area where the image would be. I attach an example here.
Perhaps there is something wrong with your openSUSE ?
Why do you think so? I don't have any other issues besides xdvi not showing images and gvim being slow.
Gianluca
I can use okular to display the .dvi document, but I miss how fast xdvi is.
It is fast, no doubt.
Can emacs also display .dvi documents? Are there any other fast viewers for .dvi documents?
I don't recall ever having seen anything to display .dvi files in emacs, so I just took a quick look. There are some packages that convert .dvi files to .png files and display those, but I doubt that you would find that faster than okular. On my system okular seems pretty fast (I looked at .../texlive/2021/texmf-dist/source/fontinst/base/fisource.dvi which is 224 pages and there was no laggyness I could detect, okular seemed more or less as fast as xdvi).
Perhaps there is something wrong with your openSUSE ?
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Gianluca,
are you able to attach the actual dvi file (or one showing that problem, alo)? Or, if you want to send it directly to me, that is fine too. I am curious as to what the issue is.
(Having said that, I started using pdftex a long time ago, and now I am trying to recall whether xdvi ever displayed images (other than postscript). It would have to interpret the \specials that TeX outputs, and it would have to be able to display the particular type of graphic you included. What is the type of the graphics file(s) you are trying to display?
Cheers. Jim
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 17:22 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
On Thu, 8 Sep 2022, Jim wrote:
Hi Gianluca,
See below.
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 15:05 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
The other issue I'm having with OpenSUSE 15.3 is that xdvi no longer displays figures in a .dvi document (.dvi is the result of compiling a .tex document).
?
Do you mean xdvi does not work at all? Or that some content (text?) is displayed and not other (image?) content? If so, can you attach a concrete example to your next message?
Text is displayed correctly. However, images are not shown, just a white area where the image would be. I attach an example here.
Perhaps there is something wrong with your openSUSE ?
Why do you think so? I don't have any other issues besides xdvi not showing images and gvim being slow.
Gianluca
I can use okular to display the .dvi document, but I miss how fast xdvi is.
It is fast, no doubt.
Can emacs also display .dvi documents? Are there any other fast viewers for .dvi documents?
I don't recall ever having seen anything to display .dvi files in emacs, so I just took a quick look. There are some packages that convert .dvi files to .png files and display those, but I doubt that you would find that faster than okular. On my system okular seems pretty fast (I looked at .../texlive/2021/texmf-dist/source/fontinst/base/fisource.dvi which is 224 pages and there was no laggyness I could detect, okular seemed more or less as fast as xdvi).
Perhaps there is something wrong with your openSUSE ?
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are you able to attach the actual dvi file (or one showing that problem, alo)? Or, if you want to send it directly to me, that is fine too. I am curious as to what the issue is.
I will send it to you separately.
What is the type of the graphics file(s) you are trying to display?
EPS. If I open the exact same .dvi in an older OpenSUSE distribution, then it displays the images perfectly.
Gianluca
On Thu, 8 Sep 2022, Jim wrote:
Gianluca,
are you able to attach the actual dvi file (or one showing that problem, alo)? Or, if you want to send it directly to me, that is fine too. I am curious as to what the issue is.
(Having said that, I started using pdftex a long time ago, and now I am trying to recall whether xdvi ever displayed images (other than postscript). It would have to interpret the \specials that TeX outputs, and it would have to be able to display the particular type of graphic you included. What is the type of the graphics file(s) you are trying to display?
Cheers. Jim
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 17:22 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
On Thu, 8 Sep 2022, Jim wrote:
Hi Gianluca,
See below.
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 15:05 (-0700), Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
The other issue I'm having with OpenSUSE 15.3 is that xdvi no longer displays figures in a .dvi document (.dvi is the result of compiling a .tex document).
?
Do you mean xdvi does not work at all? Or that some content (text?) is displayed and not other (image?) content? If so, can you attach a concrete example to your next message?
Text is displayed correctly. However, images are not shown, just a white area where the image would be. I attach an example here.
Perhaps there is something wrong with your openSUSE ?
Why do you think so? I don't have any other issues besides xdvi not showing images and gvim being slow.
Gianluca
I can use okular to display the .dvi document, but I miss how fast xdvi is.
It is fast, no doubt.
Can emacs also display .dvi documents? Are there any other fast viewers for .dvi documents?
I don't recall ever having seen anything to display .dvi files in emacs, so I just took a quick look. There are some packages that convert .dvi files to .png files and display those, but I doubt that you would find that faster than okular. On my system okular seems pretty fast (I looked at .../texlive/2021/texmf-dist/source/fontinst/base/fisource.dvi which is 224 pages and there was no laggyness I could detect, okular seemed more or less as fast as xdvi).
Perhaps there is something wrong with your openSUSE ?
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