greets, folks. i should start by saying that i have no opinion on how the TDE entity should be financed or governed, though as a general rule international nonprofits do better when based in switzerland.
now, why i'm here: i've hit a couple of configuration issues. first, how do i make the desktop pager go away, forever, appearing nowhere. i use one desktop, and don't have room to spare on kicker.
second, how do i make the trashcan and icon go away. on my desktop machine i somehow found a way to put it as a hidden directory in my home directory, which is fine. but i do not want it appearing on my desktop. didn't like it in windows 3.0 and still don't.
third, the awful phenomenon of the keyring login popping up and demanding a password whenever i lon in to the net has returned. i don't remember how it got killed last time.
anyone know how to do these things?
thanks. -- dep
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On Thursday 23 March 2023 12:42:06 pm dep via tde-users wrote:
now, why i'm here: i've hit a couple of configuration issues. first, how do i make the desktop pager go away, forever, appearing nowhere. i use one desktop, and don't have room to spare on kicker.
I can't get a snapshot of this as region has no delay...
Just to the left* of the Desktop area in the taskbar is a very thin strip that you right click on to bring up the menu to remove it.
*Ah, my taskbar is on the bottom, location will probably change based on where the taskbar is docked...
second, how do i make the trashcan and icon go away. on my desktop machine i somehow found a way to put it as a hidden directory in my home directory, which is fine. but i do not want it appearing on my desktop. didn't like it in windows 3.0 and still don't.
I don't have one :O, so I'll guess I just deleted it a long time ago?
third, the awful phenomenon of the keyring login popping up and demanding a password whenever i lon in to the net has returned. i don't remember how it got killed last time.
Turn it off. Again it's been years since I did it, so I can't tell you where/how, but it had to have been through the pop-up itself that I found the right button.
Best, Michael
On Thursday 23 March 2023 18.42:06 dep via tde-users wrote:
how do i make the desktop pager go away, forever, appearing nowhere. i use one desktop, and don't have room to spare on kicker.
Right click on the left border of the oager, then "remobe Desktop preview and Pager".
second, how do i make the trashcan and icon go away.
TCC, Desktop, Behavior, Device Icons and unselect Trash
third, the awful phenomenon of the keyring login popping up and demanding a password whenever i lon in to the net has returned. i don't remember how it got killed last time.
Using Chrome? add "--password-store=basic"
Thierry
dep via tde-users wrote:
now, why i'm here: i've hit a couple of configuration issues. first, how do i make the desktop pager go away, forever, appearing nowhere. i use one desktop, and don't have room to spare on kicker.
AFAIK it is applet, so you right click on the bar, that appears when you mouse over it and remove
second, how do i make the trashcan and icon go away. on my desktop machine i somehow found a way to put it as a hidden directory in my home directory, which is fine. but i do not want it appearing on my desktop. didn't like it in windows 3.0 and still don't.
I don't know if this is possible without consequences
third, the awful phenomenon of the keyring login popping up and demanding a password whenever i lon in to the net has returned. i don't remember how it got killed last time.
this is probably gnome - try removing the gnome keyring package. TDE has only the tdewallet. if you are using gnome networkmanager to connect to WLAN, try replacing it with tdenetworkmanager. It works pretty well
On 2023-03-23 18:30, deloptes via tde-users wrote:
dep via tde-users wrote:
now, why i'm here: i've hit a couple of configuration issues. first, how do i make the desktop pager go away, forever, appearing nowhere. i use one desktop, and don't have room to spare on kicker.
AFAIK it is applet, so you right click on the bar, that appears when you mouse over it and remove
second, how do i make the trashcan and icon go away. on my desktop machine i somehow found a way to put it as a hidden directory in my home directory, which is fine. but i do not want it appearing on my desktop. didn't like it in windows 3.0 and still don't.
I don't know if this is possible without consequences
third, the awful phenomenon of the keyring login popping up and demanding a password whenever i lon in to the net has returned. i don't remember how it got killed last time.
this is probably gnome - try removing the gnome keyring package. TDE has only the tdewallet. if you are using gnome networkmanager to connect to WLAN, try replacing it with tdenetworkmanager. It works pretty well
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For the icons on the desktop part, it is really easy to fix:
Right-click on the desktop background, then choose "Configure Desktop...", then "Behavior" on the left menu then unset the "Show desktop icons" checkbox from the "General" tab.
I don't like icons on my desktop so this solves the hurdle!
Hope this helps!
said midi-pascal via tde-users:
| For the icons on the desktop part, it is really easy to fix: | | Right-click on the desktop background, then choose "Configure | Desktop...", then "Behavior" on the left menu then unset the "Show | desktop icons" checkbox from the "General" tab. | | I don't like icons on my desktop so this solves the hurdle! | | Hope this helps!
Thanks. I'd done that and it disposed of all of them *except* the trashcan. Though I have managed to be rid of it via the time-honored Linux method of I-dunno-I-just-did-some-stuff-and-then-it-worked, the replacement for linux >2.6, which was it-took-nine-hours-because-everything-in-Linux-takes-nine-hours. An improvement in time saving and every bit as exciting!
Now I need to figure out how to get TDE to use x-cursors. I know it can, because I use redglass on my desktop machine. But there's some spin to it, because simply installing the cursors, pointers, etc. and pointing KControl at 'em doesn't do the trick. (We could really use a good cursor editor. It would need only to be a way to put a hot pixel into any approproately sized bitmap.) -- dep
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 00:03:35 +0000 dep via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
Now I need to figure out how to get TDE to use x-cursors. I know it can, because I use redglass on my desktop machine. But there's some spin to it, because simply installing the cursors, pointers, etc. and pointing KControl at 'em doesn't do the trick. (We could really use a good cursor editor. It would need only to be a way to put a hot pixel into any approproately sized bitmap.)
I think I ended up adding an environment variable XCURSOR_THEME with a value of "default" at one point because the GTK3 Adwaita engine-thing kept trying to hijack the cursor theme and ignoring the Control Center when I tried to kick it to the curb. Don't know if that's relevant to your distro, though, or what value you need to get something other than the default cursor.
E. Liddell
said E. Liddell via tde-users: | On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 00:03:35 +0000 | | dep via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote: | > Now I need to figure out how to get TDE to use x-cursors. I know it | > can, because I use redglass on my desktop machine. But there's some | > spin to it, because simply installing the cursors, pointers, etc. and | > pointing KControl at 'em doesn't do the trick. (We could really use a | > good cursor editor. It would need only to be a way to put a hot pixel | > into any approproately sized bitmap.) | | I think I ended up adding an environment variable XCURSOR_THEME | with a value of "default" at one point because the GTK3 Adwaita | engine-thing kept trying to hijack the cursor theme and ignoring the | Control Center when I tried to kick it to the curb. Don't know if | that's relevant to your distro, though, or what value you need to get | something other than the default cursor.
Weirdly, after a restart redglass and whiteglass appeared in the possibilities when choosing a cursor theme. In that the whole litany of cursor themes were available on my desktop machine, I did a little poking around and amazingly found the answer, sort of: while the various pointer graphics reside in /usr/share/icons in their respective subdirectories, this is not enough (though it's all you get if you install the Debian x-pointers or whatever it's called package). But they won't show up in KControl unless there is a file, in this case "redglass.theme" in /etc/X11/cursors. Which I now discovered, after reboot, that I had; also whiteglass.theme." But no [name].theme files for any of the other dozens that came over with the package (all of which exist in /etc/X11/cursors on my desktop machine).
Well, I thought, if I wanted I could just copy all those [name].theme files into /etc/X11/cursors. Except for this: they don't exist anywhere else. They're not in /usr/share/icons with the cursors themselves, and locate tells me they aren't here at all. So while I've solved the immediate issue, in that there's a redglass.theme and redglass was what I was looking for, I've found a mystery.
Anyway, redglass is now working nicely on the Thinkpad. So I guess I have a source for redglass.theme when I migrate the desktop machine. (Also, each of the cursors directories in /usr/share/icons appears to be signed, which is strange in and of itself, at least to me.) -- dep
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On 2023-03-23 19:03:35 dep via tde-users wrote:
said midi-pascal via tde-users:
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Now I need to figure out how to get TDE to use x-cursors. I know it can, because I use redglass on my desktop machine. But there's some spin to it, because simply installing the cursors, pointers, etc. and pointing KControl at 'em doesn't do the trick. (We could really use a good cursor editor. It would need only to be a way to put a hot pixel into any approproately sized bitmap.) -- dep
Hear, hear! It ought to be as easy as the cursor editor in AmigaOS.
Leslie -- Platform: GNU/Linux Hardware: x86_64 Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.13 tde-config: 1.0
said J Leslie Turriff via tde-users: | On 2023-03-23 19:03:35 dep via tde-users wrote: | > said midi-pascal via tde-users: | | [snip] | | > Now I need to figure out how to get TDE to use x-cursors. I know it | > can, because I use redglass on my desktop machine. But there's some | > spin to it, because simply installing the cursors, pointers, etc. and | > pointing KControl at 'em doesn't do the trick. (We could really use a | > good cursor editor. It would need only to be a way to put a hot pixel | > into any approproately sized bitmap.) | > -- | > dep | | Hear, hear! It ought to be as easy as the cursor editor in AmigaOS.
After 25 years I still desperately miss the cursor editor program I bought -- yeah, it was a commercial app -- for the OS/2 WPS. It would let you make cursors and related stuff that was the opposite value of whatever they were over, so it would be white when over black, black when over white, and if on the edge maybe half black and half white. You could never lose your cursor. It's the single most useful computer utility I've ever owned and I miss it constantly. (I do not remember how it sorted its color opposites, but I remember that it was both effective and pleasant to use.)
In a world in which you can get any of 100 different fart-noise simulators from the app store, you'd think there would be one person who would have developed a Linux equivalent to that little OS/2 utility, but if someone has I've been unable to find it. -- dep
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On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 20:35:12 -0500 J Leslie Turriff via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
On 2023-03-23 19:03:35 dep via tde-users wrote:
said midi-pascal via tde-users:
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(We could really use a good cursor editor. It would need only to be a way to put a hot pixel into any approproately sized bitmap.)
Hear, hear! It ought to be as easy as the cursor editor in AmigaOS.
xcursorgen would be a starting point ( https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xcursorgen ). You'd need to combine a front end for it with a simple graphics editor and maybe something to group individual cursors into themes if you wanted easy-to-use.
E. Liddell
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