On Tue September 20 2011, David Hare <David Hare &lt;davidahare(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; wrote: This is REALLY a stretch, but perhaps someone thought that installing a multimedia package would lead to wanting to fiddle with the audio and video drivers on the machine, and that was a good reason to recommend KDE-specific tools for that?? Hey, Greg, I've never used dselect, and some of the Lenny doc seemed to discourage its use. I'm curious: What you you like about it? Thanks- Douglas -- Permission is granted to use the email address(es), postal addresses, telephone numbers, Web site URLs, names, account numbers, userids, passwords, and other identifying or contact information contained in, or attached to, this email, for the purposes of responding to queries, providing support, or fulfilling sales orders contained in this email or its attachment(s) (if any). Trading, selling, otherwise publishing, or making available to employees or third parties, any identifying information contained in this email or its attachment(s) (if any) for other purposes, including use in advertising, is forbidden.

On 21/09/11 07:26, Timothy Pearson wrote: Thanks Tim. I didn't want to clutter the bug-tracker with invalid stuff, without doing some research. Maybe root is needed to set up sound server, cdrom devices... but should not have to use only sudo on a Debian box. I never used Ubuntu, far as I read the root account is disabled altogether and sudo used for everything, unlike Debian. Both kdesudo-trinity and sudo-trinity are purged from my system and it runs extremely well. <apt-cache showpkg kdesudo-trinity> lists as Reverse Depends (I think that includes the recommends): Reverse Depends: kde-trinity,kdesudo-trinity kaffeine-trinity,kdesudo-trinity kaffeine-trinity-dbg,kdesudo-trinity so they are probably the only ones in question. Kde-trinity I see is a meta for the entire desktop and lists kdesudo-trinity as an actual dependency (I don't use kde-trinity, preferring to install from a custom package list) I looked also at sudo-trinity <apt-cache showpkg sudo-trinity> : Reverse Depends: sudo-ldap-trinity,sudo-trinity sudo-ldap-trinity,sudo-trinity kde-core-trinity,sudo-trinity smb4k-trinity,sudo-trinity kdpkg-trinity,sudo-trinity kde-core-trinity seems another meta, not installed here. Note sudo-trinity is an actual dependency of smb4k. I don't know how sudo-trinity will affect the system as I prefer to use it (sudo disabled) Fortunately for me I don't use smb4k. By the way, a reminder to new Debian/TDE users that normal kdesu is still broken for Trinity apps unless used as : <kdesu application --nonewdcop> with kdesudo-trinity purged (maybe also sudo-trinity) and ~/.trinity/share/config/kdesurc manually edited. Regarding package managers, as I understand it, the important thing is to stick with just one, usually aptitude or apt-get, to be sure the same database and logs are used. Nobody much uses dselect now but I suppose that is a valid choice if preferred, else it wouldn't exist. A desktop-specific manager (kpackage) seems to me asking for trouble.