if i were to try to go from ubuntu-14.04 to 16.04 and i were simply to change the repositories from trusty to xenial and the tde repository to the preliminary stable builds, did apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade, is it likely to break things? that's how i upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04, and it worked well, but i kind of don't want to screw it all up with surprises. seems the best way to get stuff i need to run working.
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On Tue May 8 2018 15:34:20 dep wrote:
if i were to try to go from ubuntu-14.04 to 16.04 and i were simply to change the repositories from trusty to xenial and the tde repository to the preliminary stable builds, did apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade, is it likely to break things? that's how i upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04, and it worked well, but i kind of don't want to screw it all up with surprises. seems the best way to get stuff i need to run working.
It might work. It might not. Ubuntu doesn't guarantee upgrades to the same extent that Debian does and neither recommends skipping versions.
A much safer (but still not guaranteed approach) is to upgrade one version at a time, and to read and follow all relevant release notes for each upgrade.
--Mike
On May 8, 2018 8:50 PM, Mike Bird mgb-trinity@yosemite.net wrote:
It might work. It might not. Ubuntu doesn't guarantee upgrades to the
same extent that Debian does and neither recommends skipping versions.
A much safer (but still not guaranteed approach) is to upgrade one version
at a time, and to read and follow all relevant release notes for each
upgrade.
They typically support an upgrade from LTS to LTS, which is what I'm trying here. I remember there being some issue with TDE going onto 16.04, which is what I'm most especially concerned about.
dep
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Mike Bird composed on 2018-05-08 17:50 (UTC-0700):
dep wrote:
if i were to try to go from ubuntu-14.04 to 16.04 and i were simply to change the repositories from trusty to xenial and the tde repository to the preliminary stable builds, did apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade, is it likely to break things? that's how i upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04, and it worked well, but i kind of don't want to screw it all up with surprises. seems the best way to get stuff i need to run working.
It might work. It might not. Ubuntu doesn't guarantee upgrades to the same extent that Debian does and neither recommends skipping versions.
A much safer (but still not guaranteed approach) is to upgrade one version at a time, and to read and follow all relevant release notes for each upgrade.
Is skipping from one LTS to the next formally considered skipping versions? I don't think it is. https://www.lifewire.com/should-you-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04-from-ubuntu-14-0... seems to agree with me. I just did a Kubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 last month without any apparent issues I can recall. It should be little different than "skipping" from Wheezy to Jessie. Also, 16.04 is over 2 years old, so should have virtually all its kinks worked out.
That said, unless one is using Ubuntu's latest primary DE flavor, what's the point using it instead of Debian anyway? Favoring whatever latest version of its proprietary init system happens to be? Every stable Debian is an LTS release, and a foundation for some *buntu or another. Without Debian, there would be no *buntu (nor Mint), right?
All that said, for some few users, there is a gotcha in 16.04 that shouldn't affect 14.04 - GTK-3.18: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757142
AFAIK, only openSUSE users have a built-in fix for that Gnome imposition. Everybody else affected by it has to work harder to figure out what's going on and work around it.
Felix Miata wrote:
That said, unless one is using Ubuntu's latest primary DE flavor, what's the point using it instead of Debian anyway? Favoring whatever latest version of its proprietary init system happens to be? Every stable Debian is an LTS release, and a foundation for some *buntu or another. Without Debian, there would be no *buntu (nor Mint), right?
This is also what I asked myself, Felix.
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