5 Jul
2013
5 Jul
'13
12:31 a.m.
Help! Following what I thought was a routine upgrade of my Debian Jessie/Sid
system, Trinity has broken. Completely. Many programs have disappeared
from /opt/trinity/bin (most particularly kmail - I'm writing this on an old
backup system).
In an attempt to recover this, I have (I believe) downgraded the system to
Wheezy with the following /etc/apt/sources.list
------
deb http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
### I tried both this set and the ones below
deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu wheezy
main
deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu
wheezy main
##deb
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian
wheezy main
##deb-src
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian
wheezy main
##deb
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.1…
wheezy main
##deb-src
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.1…
wheezy main
-------
After that,
apt-get install desktop-base-trinity
appears to work. But
apt-get install kde-trinity
gives:
-----
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
kde-trinity : Depends: kde-core-trinity (>= 5:47) but it is not going to be
installed
Depends: kdeaddons-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to
be installed
Depends: kdegraphics-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going
to be installed
Depends: kdepim-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to be
installed
Depends: kdeutils-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not going to
be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
-----
Several questions:
What have I done wrong?! All suggestions welcome...
I tried to follow the instructions at
http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/DebianBinaryInsta…
Are they actually correct?
Has anyone else succeeded in a new or upgraded installation in the last couple
of days?
cheers
anthony
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5 Jul
5 Jul
11:34 a.m.
New subject: [OT] encrypt flash drive.
greetings!
I've got sensitive personal information on my flash drive (thumb
drive) because of a passport issue; stuck abroad I'm sure I'd enjoy
the beer if only I drank beer!
I have found usb drives are like prisoners in those war films, always
plotting their escape and sometimes succeeding.
it would be bad if this one ran into the enemy camp!
obviously I can just not store any sensitive data on the drive but
are there any good encryption options? they would have to meet the
following criteria:
a) I must be able to read the files from Windows and Macs
computers;
b) I cannot install software on those computers.
the best I can figure is put zip or pgp on the usb drive, maybe
truecrypt?
F.
--
Felmon Davis
They will only cause the lower classes to move about needlessly.
-- The Duke of Wellington, on early steam railroads.
6 Jul
6 Jul
3:33 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Broken installation
On Thursday 04 July 2013 16:31:43 you wrote:
Help! Following what I thought was a routine upgrade
of my Debian
Jessie/Sid system, Trinity has broken. Completely. Many programs have
disappeared from /opt/trinity/bin (most particularly kmail - I'm
writing this on an old backup system).
In an attempt to recover this, I have (I believe) downgraded the
system to Wheezy with the following /etc/apt/sources.list
------
deb http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib
non-free
### I tried both this set and the ones below
deb
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu
wheezy main
deb-src
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu
wheezy main
##deb
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/de
bian wheezy main
##deb-src
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/de
bian wheezy main
##deb
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-
v3.5.13/debian wheezy main
##deb-src
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-
v3.5.13/debian wheezy main
-------
After that,
apt-get install desktop-base-trinity
appears to work. But
apt-get install kde-trinity
gives:
-----
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
kde-trinity : Depends: kde-core-trinity (>= 5:47) but it is not
going to be installed
Depends: kdeaddons-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not
going to be installed
Depends: kdegraphics-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is
not going to be installed
Depends: kdepim-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not
going to be installed
Depends: kdeutils-trinity (>= 4:3.5.5) but it is not
going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
-----
Several questions:
What have I done wrong?! All suggestions welcome...
I tried to follow the instructions at
http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/DebianBinar
yInstallation Are they actually correct?
Has anyone else succeeded in a new or upgraded installation in the
last couple of days?
cheers
anthony
Nothing routine running TDE on a Jessie/Sid system, it is compiled for
Wheezy, just because you were lucky to get it working ...updates to
Jessie are unpredictable as far as TDE is concerned.
Also the TDE mirrors are syncing right now, when finished you will not
need slaveks repo's anymore.
"apt-cache policy kde-core-trinity"
kde-core-trinity:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 5:54.2-0debian7.0.0+0
Version table:
5:54.2-0debian7.0.0+0 0
500
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian/
wheezy/main amd64 Packages
--
Peace,
Greg
4:09 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Broken installation - SOLVED
On Sat, 06 Jul 2013, Greg Madden wrote:
On Thursday 04 July 2013 16:31:43 you wrote:
> Help! Following what I thought was a routine upgrade of my Debian
> Jessie/Sid system, Trinity has broken. Completely. Many programs have
> disappeared from /opt/trinity/bin (most particularly kmail - I'm
> writing this on an old backup system).
> In an attempt to recover this, I have (I believe) downgraded the
> system to Wheezy with the following /etc/apt/sources.list
--------------
Nothing routine running TDE on a Jessie/Sid system, it
is compiled for
Wheezy, just because you were lucky to get it working ...updates to
Jessie are unpredictable as far as TDE is concerned.
Fair enough - it has worked well for a couple of years now on the 'wrong'
system, but I did return it to Wheezy in case that was the problem.
But in fact there were two problems:
1 kde-trinity needed binutils < 2.23 but 2.23.something had been installed.
That went when I changed down to 2.22-8
2 kde-trinity-core needed arts-trinity which does not seem to be in the wheezy
release. I added the nightly-builds and it went too.
Also the TDE mirrors are syncing right now, when
finished you will not
need slaveks repo's anymore.
would that explain the absence of arts-trinity?
I presume that when the mirrors are sorted, there will be an announcement on
the website..?
cheers
anthony
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9:58 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Broken installation - SOLVED
On Friday 05 July 2013 20:09:13 you wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jul 2013, Greg Madden wrote:
The long freeze for Wheezy in Debian affects testing and Sid. Packages
do not move throught the que. There can be a seemingly stable period
where testing & /sid are very simialr to Wheezy, the release allows
packages to proceed..this will eventually break compatability with
Wheezy, which may be now..I don't use testing & sid though.
I heart there will be an announcement .
--
Peace,
Greg
On Thursday 04 July 2013 16:31:43 you wrote:
> Help! Following what I thought was a routine upgrade of my Debian
> Jessie/Sid system, Trinity has broken. Completely. Many programs
> have disappeared from /opt/trinity/bin (most particularly kmail
> - I'm writing this on an old backup system).
> In an attempt to recover this, I have (I believe) downgraded the
> system to Wheezy with the following /etc/apt/sources.list
--------------
Nothing routine running TDE on a Jessie/Sid
system, it is compiled
for Wheezy, just because you were lucky to get it working
...updates to Jessie are unpredictable as far as TDE is concerned.
Fair enough - it has worked well for a couple of years now on the
'wrong' system, but I did return it to Wheezy in case that was the
problem.
But in fact there were two problems:
1 kde-trinity needed binutils < 2.23 but 2.23.something had been
installed. That went when I changed down to 2.22-8
2 kde-trinity-core needed arts-trinity which does not seem to be in
the wheezy release. I added the nightly-builds and it went too.
Also the TDE mirrors are syncing right now, when
finished you will
not need slaveks repo's anymore.
would that explain the absence of arts-trinity?
I presume that when the mirrors are sorted, there will be an
announcement on the website..?
cheers
anthony 
8 Jul
8 Jul
3:27 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Broken installation
Help! Following what I thought was a routine upgrade
of my Debian
Jessie/Sid
system, Trinity has broken. Completely. Many programs have disappeared
from /opt/trinity/bin (most particularly kmail - I'm writing this on an
old
backup system).
<snip>
I'm not sure there is much that can be done to avoid this; TDE does not
yet have Jessie builds and it is quite possible that the dependencies
changed enough to end up removing a large chunk of the TDE package set on
upgrade.
Work to support Jessie is ongoing, just be patient. :-)
Tim
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