On Saturday 14 November 2020 02:03:53 Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:

On Saturday 14 November 2020 10.53:20 ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:

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Hello,

I have a Gmail.com account mail. It works quite well with Webmail,

but no, with Kmail. I don't receive any mails (POP). (login and password are OK).

Hi,

I use gmail mainly as a spam filter, routing secondary mail accounts to gmail and forwading what has not been filtered to my main account.

I also forward my gmail mail to my main account (partly because gmail considers mail from my "private" mailserver as spam.

I work with kmail and I don't have any problem. I get the mail from gmail per Imap however (because I don't want html mail here but many companies use this and gmail handles such things, like flight tickets, quite well and keeps them there...).

Thierry

I use zoho.com for most of my email, but keep a gmail account for certain things. It was a bother to get it working smoothly; Google wants to help me by asking for more and more information (phone number, etc.), and for a month or two my account would become inaccessible now and again, because I would login from different locations or on different machines, sometimes through webmail, sometimes using Kmail on my desktop computer, and so on. It was suggested to me that imap would be better than pop, but somehow I managed to get it working using just pop; might be because I don't go out so much any more, due to lockdown, so I don't login from other locations.

But anyway, if you have sorted out such issues already, then these settings work for me, with no changes over about three years or so.

Server supports ssl, but not tls? pop.gmail.com port 995

smtp.gmail.com 587 (but I don't generally send from my gmail account ...)

Bill

On Saturday 14 November 2020 13.09:36 Steven D'Aprano via tde-users wrote:

Then your mail server is probably badly configured. Gmail is very forgiving of private mail servers, unlike Yahoo.

Actually its not mine, as I don't (usually) write to myself. Many times answers to gmail users were not received when sent fom a private domain.

I tend to have the same problem with my school's server that runs on Office365.

At the very least, you should have an SPF record set. You probably should relay your outgoing email via your ISP, who probably has a better spam reputation than you do. (Especially if it is a big, well-known ISP.)

Can't say about its reputation. I got mail.decoulon.ch as smtp and use this, no idea how to "relay" my mail through my ISP.

There are other things you can probably do too, which escape my mind right now, starting with *don't send spam* from your personal mail server, but I trust that last one goes without saying :-)

Well that at least I think I can say I do :)

Sorry, I'm confused -- earlier you said you forwarded from Gmail to your mail account, now you say you fetch with imap. Have I misunderstood?

I do both:

- I have secondary mail adresses which get spam, so I fetch these mails with gmail, filter them there and forward them to my mail mail address.

- I fetch the mails of my "main" gmail address directly, through imap.

Thierry