On Sunday 12 February 2012 03:01:21 pm Lisi wrote: Using my instructions (typing it in when setting up the accounts and checking off the store password option) should work. I've also noticed that when I forget to add the password at setup, it will come up with a popup asking for the password, and there will be a checkbox for storing it.

Since Kmail can store your passwords directly, it should not matter whether KWallet is present or not.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristopher John Gamrat" &lt;chaotickjg(a)gmail.com&gt; To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:22:58 PM Subject: Re: [trinity-users] LXDE, TDE and KMail - can I achieve what I would like to do? On Sunday 12 February 2012 03:01:21 pm Lisi wrote: Using my instructions (typing it in when setting up the accounts and checking off the store password option) should work. I've also noticed that when I forget to add the password at setup, it will come up with a popup asking for the password, and there will be a checkbox for storing it. Since Kmail can store your passwords directly, it should not matter whether KWallet is present or not. I never tried removing KWallet before now, but Kmail seems to work fine without it. After removing kwalletmanager-trinity and restarting Kontact (which uses Kmail directly for email), it did not ask me for a password, neither for sending nor receiving (I don't like KWallet either, so I don't use it, though I do have it store my passwords). It might ask you to remove several meta-packages, though I'm not sure which ones specifically as I manually selected which packages to install (I think I added KWallet by accident since it was in the suggested packages). Just make sure to check what your package manager wants to remove first; meta-packages are generally safe to remove since they are there simply to make it easier to install the real packages in bulk. If your package manager indicates that it can't be removed safely, then when KWallet comes up, don't check the box on the second screen of the KWallet wizard that comes up (on my system, when it came up, I clicked Next, then clicked Finish without touching anything else in the wizard). Kmail will then ask you if you wish to store the password unsafely. Once you confirm that you do, it should not ask for the password again, unless you change the passwords on your configured email accounts (e.g. visiting google.com, signing in with your Gmail account, and changing the password in your Account Settings). <snip> Sorry - just seeing this thread now. I've never been a great fan of KWallet either and it creates a nightmare when you change your mail password and it suddenly tried to login with the old password to every kmail account, kalendar, kaddressbook, etc. account and locks out for too many failed attempts! However, is there a difference in the way in which KWallet and KMail store the passwords? I was under the impression the KMail storage of simply a hash in an rc file was significantly less secure than KWallet - John