hello folks,
i've just tried to install tde on pclinuxos but get error messages. forget the first error message. But these errors are a bit interresting: "Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64/noarch pkglist 404 Not Found ..... see below..."
does anyone have ideas on this?
Thanks,
Karsten
[root@localhost ~]# cat <<EOF >/etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list
rpm
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/
trinity-r14/RPMS $(uname -i) noarch EOF
[root@localhost ~]# apt-get update E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list (dist) [root@localhost ~]# apt-get update Get:1 http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit release [1288B] Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64 release Fetched 1288B in 23s (55B/s) Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/x86_64 pkglist Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/x86_64 release Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/kde pkglist Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/kde release Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/xfce4 pkglist Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/xfce4 release Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64/noarch pkglist 404 Not Found Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64/noarch release Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/tri... 404 Not Found Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [root@localhost ~]# apt-get install trinity-desktop Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package trinity-desktop [root@localhost ~]# ^C
On Friday 03 April 2015 02:30:24 pm Karsten Lahrs wrote:
hello folks,
i've just tried to install tde on pclinuxos but get error messages. forget the first error message. But these errors are a bit interresting: "Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64/noarch pkglist 404 Not Found ..... see below..."
does anyone have ideas on this?
Thanks,
Karsten
Been there, done that. :-)
There are a few small problems with the PCLOS installation, but you may not need to work through them. A couple of people are putting together a new PCLOS Trinity iso, and discussing their progress on the PCLinuxOS forum. See: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=131668.0
Aside from that, it looks like you have a slash ('/') rather than a space between 'x86_64' and 'noarch'. At least I think it should be a space.
To see about the malformed line, check the file in a text editor, and if it looks OK check it in a hex editor. I once had a line start with an unprintable character that I only found using hexedit.
Lastly, the http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/ actually redirects to a mirror. The redirection seems to not be working. You might take a look at the problems I encountered last month (March 2015), and the helpful responses that I got on this mailing list. You can read them online at https://www.trinitydesktop.org/mailinglist.php
HTH,
Andy
[root@localhost ~]# apt-get update E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list (dist) [root@localhost ~]# apt-get update Get:1 http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit release [1288B] Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64 release
...
E: Couldn't find package trinity-desktop [root@localhost ~]# ^C
On 04/04/2015 01:30 AM, Karsten Lahrs wrote:
hello folks,
i've just tried to install tde on pclinuxos but get error messages. forget the first error message. But these errors are a bit interresting: "Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64/noarch pkglist 404 Not Found ..... see below..."
does anyone have ideas on this?
Thanks,
Karsten
[root@localhost ~]# cat <<EOF >/etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list
rpm
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/
trinity-r14/RPMS $(uname -i) noarch EOF
[root@localhost ~]# apt-get update E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list (dist) [root@localhost ~]# apt-get update Get:1 http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit release [1288B] Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64 release Fetched 1288B in 23s (55B/s) Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/x86_64 pkglist Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/x86_64 release Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/kde pkglist Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/kde release Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/xfce4 pkglist Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/xfce4 release Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64/noarch pkglist 404 Not Found Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64/noarch release Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/tri... 404 Not Found Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [root@localhost ~]# apt-get install trinity-desktop Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package trinity-desktop [root@localhost ~]# ^C
start with changing mirrors . Change //.....pearson....../ with //tde-mirror.yosemite.net/ and all should be OK. Have done it a dozen times If you happen to work with 32bit, do also change i386 with i586 ( if it's not done already )
and last but not least, go and have a look on the pclinuxos forum. Lots of happenings this week concerning TDE
2015-04-04 0:10 GMT+02:00 Tony Wolfs tony.wolfs@gmail.com:
On 04/04/2015 01:30 AM, Karsten Lahrs wrote:
hello folks,
i've just tried to install tde on pclinuxos but get error messages. forget the first error message. But these errors are a bit interresting: "Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64/noarch pkglist 404 Not Found ..... see below..."
does anyone have ideas on this?
Thanks,
Karsten
[root@localhost ~]# cat <<EOF >/etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list
trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/
trinity-r14/RPMS $(uname -i) noarch EOF
[root@localhost ~]# apt-get update E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list (dist) [root@localhost ~]# apt-get update Get:1 http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit release [1288B] Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64 release Fetched 1288B in 23s (55B/s) Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/x86_64 pkglist Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/x86_64 release Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/kde pkglist Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/kde release Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/xfce4 pkglist Hit http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/xfce4 release Err http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64/noarch pkglist 404 Not Found Ign http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net x86_64/noarch release Failed to fetch http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/ trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/trinity-r14/RPMS/x86_64/base/pkglist.noarch 404 Not Found Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [root@localhost ~]# apt-get install trinity-desktop Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package trinity-desktop [root@localhost ~]# ^C
start with changing mirrors . Change //.....pearson....../ with //
tde-mirror.yosemite.net/ and all should be OK. Have done it a dozen times If you happen to work with 32bit, do also change i386 with i586 ( if it's not done already )
and last but not least, go and have a look on the pclinuxos forum. Lots of happenings this week concerning TDE
First of all: sorry for my double post. (I have not seen my own first post, so I thout I have not send it)
I have tried different mirrors, but allways get the same fault:
"[root@localhost guest]# apt-get update Get:1 http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit release [1288B] Ign http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net x86_64 release Fetched 1288B in 15s (82B/s) Get:1 http://ftp.nluug.nl pclinuxos/64bit/x86_64 pkglist [2842kB] Err http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net x86_64/noarch pkglist 404 Not Found... etc..."
This is in my trinity.list: "rpm http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/trinity/rpm/pclinuxos/trinity-r14/RPM... x86_64 noarch"
If anyone has an idea? Would be fantastic... because my intend is to change a fullmonthy version to tde
...but I assume I would start testing the new iso's from pclinuxos website.... Maybe I should become a tester :-)
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On Saturday 04 April 2015 09:19:35 Karsten Lahrs wrote:
First of all: sorry for my double post. (I have not seen my own first post, so I thout I have not send it)
Thats just one of the disadvantages of using gmail. Your original post, returned from the mailing list server, is considered a a duplicate and summarily deleted by gmail. And it is NOT open for discussion as far as gmail is concerned, millions have squawked.
The solution is to use a different mail server, such as the one your ISP provides. However I am not as my ISP, Shentel, farmed their email server out to gmail about 2 years ago, so I am using a qmail install I helped setup at my former employers, and which I have a lifetime account on.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 April 2015 12:07:42 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 04 April 2015 09:19:35 Karsten Lahrs wrote:
First of all: sorry for my double post. (I have not seen my own first post, so I thout I have not send it)
Thats just one of the disadvantages of using gmail. Your original post, returned from the mailing list server, is considered a a duplicate and summarily deleted by gmail. And it is NOT open for discussion as far as gmail is concerned, millions have squawked.
The solution is to use a different mail server, such as the one your ISP provides. However I am not as my ISP, Shentel, farmed their email server out to gmail about 2 years ago, so I am using a qmail install I helped setup at my former employers, and which I have a lifetime account on.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
I think it's not just gmail. I NEVER see my own posts via email. I have to go to the web archive to verify that they made it to the list. I would get another email account if I weren't such a lazy procrastinator.
Maybe tomorrow... :-)
Andy
On Saturday 04 April 2015 12:31:06 Andy wrote:
I think it's not just gmail. I NEVER see my own posts via email. I have to go to the web archive to verify that they made it to the list. I would get another email account if I weren't such a lazy procrastinator.
Maybe tomorrow... :-)
;-)
Andy
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 April 2015 12:07:42 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 04 April 2015 09:19:35 Karsten Lahrs wrote:
First of all: sorry for my double post. (I have not seen my own first post, so I thout I have not send it)
Thats just one of the disadvantages of using gmail. Your original post, returned from the mailing list server, is considered a a duplicate and summarily deleted by gmail. And it is NOT open for discussion as far as gmail is concerned, millions have squawked.
The solution is to use a different mail server, such as the one your ISP provides. However I am not as my ISP, Shentel, farmed their email server out to gmail about 2 years ago, so I am using a qmail install I helped setup at my former employers, and which I have a lifetime account on.
My ISP uses a rebranded gmail account as well. :-(
The one workaround that I've seen that confirms that something made it out there is to cc it to yourelf. Annoying, that...
On Saturday 04 April 2015 20:30:08 Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
On Saturday 04 April 2015 12:07:42 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 04 April 2015 09:19:35 Karsten Lahrs wrote:
First of all: sorry for my double post. (I have not seen my own first post, so I thout I have not send it)
Thats just one of the disadvantages of using gmail. Your original post, returned from the mailing list server, is considered a a duplicate and summarily deleted by gmail. And it is NOT open for discussion as far as gmail is concerned, millions have squawked.
The solution is to use a different mail server, such as the one your ISP provides. However I am not as my ISP, Shentel, farmed their email server out to gmail about 2 years ago, so I am using a qmail install I helped setup at my former employers, and which I have a lifetime account on.
My ISP uses a rebranded gmail account as well. :-(
The one workaround that I've seen that confirms that something made it out there is to cc it to yourelf. Annoying, that...
I've got several emails in this thread missing, and they are not in my spam folder either. Weird and somewhat annoying. How much else is going missing? I know some is. :-(
Lisi
On Saturday 04 April 2015 17:24:23 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 04 April 2015 20:30:08 Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
On Saturday 04 April 2015 12:07:42 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 04 April 2015 09:19:35 Karsten Lahrs wrote:
First of all: sorry for my double post. (I have not seen my own first post, so I thout I have not send it)
Thats just one of the disadvantages of using gmail. Your original post, returned from the mailing list server, is considered a a duplicate and summarily deleted by gmail. And it is NOT open for discussion as far as gmail is concerned, millions have squawked.
The solution is to use a different mail server, such as the one your ISP provides. However I am not as my ISP, Shentel, farmed their email server out to gmail about 2 years ago, so I am using a qmail install I helped setup at my former employers, and which I have a lifetime account on.
My ISP uses a rebranded gmail account as well. :-(
The one workaround that I've seen that confirms that something made it out there is to cc it to yourelf. Annoying, that...
I've got several emails in this thread missing, and they are not in my spam folder either. Weird and somewhat annoying. How much else is going missing? I know some is. :-(
Lisi
Oh dear... Since you also are posting from a gmail account, and the list echo is deleted, that is not surprising. Cc: yourself, or find a different, non gmail, mail server to use would be my best recommendation. Cc'ing yourself is no guarantee the list got it, so while it would probably serve the purpose, it comes with no warranty. Much the same thing could be accomplished if we could train our email agents to store the sent mail in the list folder it was in at the time, but that comes with the same null & void warranty. It has not made the "round trip", meaning everyone on the associated list will see it.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Sorry for the top post, but if anyone wants a better option than GMail you can try http://fastmail.com
Their forums are at: http://www.emaildiscussions.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27
--- Original Message --- From: Gene Heskett gheskett@wdtv.com To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: Re: [trinity-users] installation problems on pclinuxos fm Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2015
On Saturday 04 April 2015 17:24:23 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 04 April 2015 20:30:08 Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
On Saturday 04 April 2015 12:07:42 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 04 April 2015 09:19:35 Karsten Lahrs wrote:
First of all: sorry for my double post. (I have not seen my own first post, so I thought I have not send it)
That's just one of the disadvantages of using gmail. Your original post, returned from the mailing list server, is considered a duplicate and summarily deleted by gmail. And it is NOT open for discussion as far as gmail is concerned, millions have squawked.
The solution is to use a different mail server, such as the one your ISP provides. However I am not as my ISP, Shentel, farmed their email server out to gmail about 2 years ago, so I am using a qmail install I helped setup at my former employers, and which I have a lifetime account on.
My ISP uses a re-branded gmail account as well. :-(
The one workaround that I've seen that confirms that something made it out there is to cc it to yourself. Annoying, that...
I've got several emails in this thread missing, and they are not in my spam folder either. Weird and somewhat annoying. How much else is going missing? I know some is. :-(
Lisi
Oh dear... Since you also are posting from a gmail account, and the list echo is deleted, that is not surprising. Cc: yourself, or find a different, non gmail, mail server to use would be my best recommendation. Cc'ing yourself is no guarantee the list got it, so while it would probably serve the purpose, it comes with no warranty. Much the same thing could be accomplished if we could train our email agents to store the sent mail in the list folder it was in at the time, but that comes with the same null & void warranty. It has not made the "round trip", meaning everyone on the associated list will see it.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Sunday 05 April 2015 00:58:15 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 04 April 2015 17:24:23 Lisi Reisz wrote:
[snip]
I've got several emails in this thread missing, and they are not in my spam folder either. Weird and somewhat annoying. How much else is going missing? I know some is. :-(
Lisi
Oh dear... Since you also are posting from a gmail account,
No, I'm not. I'm using a Gmail address. I'm posting from my computer, using KMail, via my ISP's SMTP server.
and the list echo is deleted, that is not surprising. Cc: yourself, or find a different, non gmail, mail server to use would be my best recommendation. Cc'ing yourself is no guarantee the list got it, so while it would probably serve the purpose, it comes with no warranty.
It's not emails from me that are missing, so cc.ing myself would make no difference. I don't use Gmail as an email client, only as an archive and POP3 server, and I don't send through Gmail, but through my ISP's SMTP server. I always get copies of my own emails to mailing lists.
If you are saying that Gmail's POP server randomly discards received emails, without even putting them in either the spam folder or the "bin", and other mail servers don't, this is the first that I have heard of it. If it be indeed the case, then that is a serious matter, but I would expect to have heard about it in that case.
However, something has gone wrong. Some emails in this thread are missing. So perhaps Gmail's POP3 server has started a policy of randomly discarding random emails.
Lisi
Much the same thing could be accomplished if we could train our email agents to store the sent mail in the list folder it was in at the time, but that comes with the same null & void warranty. It has not made the "round trip", meaning everyone on the associated list will see it.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Sunday 05 April 2015 07:44:37 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 05 April 2015 00:58:15 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 04 April 2015 17:24:23 Lisi Reisz wrote:
[snip]
I've got several emails in this thread missing, and they are not in my spam folder either. Weird and somewhat annoying. How much else is going missing? I know some is. :-(
Lisi
Oh dear... Since you also are posting from a gmail account,
No, I'm not. I'm using a Gmail address. I'm posting from my computer, using KMail, via my ISP's SMTP server.
Exactly what I would be doing when I go thru a gmail or shental account.
and the list echo is deleted, that is not surprising. Cc: yourself, or find a different, non gmail, mail server to use would be my best recommendation. Cc'ing yourself is no guarantee the list got it, so while it would probably serve the purpose, it comes with no warranty.
It's not emails from me that are missing, so cc.ing myself would make no difference. I don't use Gmail as an email client, only as an archive and POP3 server, and I don't send through Gmail, but through my ISP's SMTP server. I always get copies of my own emails to mailing lists.
The point is, that apparently your ISP has farmed this email server function they are expected to supply, out to a gmail alias, so gmail's duplicate removal policy applies. You can send it, but the servers reply of that message to you is a duplicate and deleted.
If you are saying that Gmail's POP server randomly discards received emails, without even putting them in either the spam folder or the "bin", and other mail servers don't, this is the first that I have heard of it.
It does it, its not random, its a duplicate and removed. Other people on the list see it, but you don't get it back, not ever from gmail.
From the header of this email from the trinity list that I am replying to right now:
From: Lisi Reisz lisi.reisz@gmail.com To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net
If it be indeed the case, then that is a serious matter, but I would expect to have heard about it in that case.
Yes, it is in my opinion, a serious matter. It is also why I don't use either of my gmail accounts for any mailing list subscriptions. The shentel address gets used by some friends where it doesn't matter, and it works well for that.
However, something has gone wrong. Some emails in this thread are missing. So perhaps Gmail's POP3 server has started a policy of randomly discarding random emails.
Their pop3 server has discarded duplicates from the gitgo, many years ago now. That was one of their original sales pitches if I recall correctly.
The only real solution is to get gmail _out_ of the path used to move the message both ways. One way is fine. I have heard rumors that yahoo is also doing this, but haven't encountered it yet and I am subbed to several yahoo hosted lists.
Other solutions I have heard of but not tried:
I have heard of people who sub to a list at 2 gmail addresses, and somehow setup an alias translation/configuration so they do all receiveing at one address, and do all sending to the other account that is never read.
But now, can I setup an imaginary working scenario? I think so, read on.
I understand, but have not done it to prove it, that this gets around their duplicate deletion rule. But I am not aware that kmail has the ability to automatically translate the account name from lisi.reisz to reisz.lisi when you hit reply. However, I do think that under the sending tab in kmail config, one could set it to send to address B while fetchmail is pulling from address A, which should accomplish the same thing.
That would be a nice trick however, but the only way I can imagine on short notice would be to use fetchmail like I do, have fetchmail pull from lisi.reisz, but setup the kmail send account to use reisz.lisi. But I've not actually tried it. YMMV etc. In order to keep the accounts at gmail clean, one might have to login to the webmail interface and delete the stuff in the account used for send only about monthly.
You would I believe, have to configure two accounts at lists.pearsoncomputing.net to complete the loop. Turning off sending back to you of the account at pearsoncomputing that you use for send only would solve the problem of needing to go in via webmail to gmail and delete the unread messages occasionally.
Cheers Lisi, Gene Heskett
I apologise to everyone else for shouting, but nothing else seems to work. If this doesn't, I'll just give up and let Gene carry on in his own private world.
On Sunday 05 April 2015 15:37:22 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Sunday 05 April 2015 07:44:37 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 05 April 2015 00:58:15 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 04 April 2015 17:24:23 Lisi Reisz wrote:
[snip]
I've got several emails in this thread missing, and they are not in my spam folder either. Weird and somewhat annoying. How much else is going missing? I know some is. :-(
Lisi
Oh dear... Since you also are posting from a gmail account,
No, I'm not. I'm using a Gmail address. I'm posting from my computer, using KMail, via my ISP's SMTP server.
Exactly what I would be doing when I go thru a gmail or shental account.
and the list echo is deleted, that is not surprising. Cc: yourself, or find a different, non gmail, mail server to use would be my best recommendation. Cc'ing yourself is no guarantee the list got it, so while it would probably serve the purpose, it comes with no warranty.
It's not emails from me that are missing, so cc.ing myself would make no difference. I don't use Gmail as an email client, only as an archive and POP3 server, and I don't send through Gmail, but through my ISP's SMTP server. I always get copies of my own emails to mailing lists.
The point is, that apparently your ISP has farmed this email server function they are expected to supply, out to a gmail alias
NO THEY HAVEN'T. I use a Gmail address.
so gmail's duplicate removal policy applies. You can send it, but the servers reply of that message to you is a duplicate and deleted.
THE MESSAGES I SEND REACH ME FINE. I SHALL GET THIS ONE.
If you are saying that Gmail's POP server randomly discards received emails, without even putting them in either the spam folder or the "bin", and other mail servers don't, this is the first that I have heard of it.
It does it, its not random, its a duplicate and removed. Other people on the list see it, but you don't get it back, not ever from gmail.
I DIDN'T SEND THE MISSING ONES. I get my own mails back. I DO SEE MY OWN MAILS.
I
From the header of this email from the trinity list that I am replying to right now:
From: Lisi Reisz lisi.reisz@gmail.com To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Yes, I got that too. I use a Gmail address.
If it be indeed the case, then that is a serious matter, but I would expect to have heard about it in that case.
Yes, it is in my opinion, a serious matter. It is also why I don't use either of my gmail accounts for any mailing list subscriptions. The shentel address gets used by some friends where it doesn't matter, and it works well for that.
However, something has gone wrong. Some emails in this thread are missing. So perhaps Gmail's POP3 server has started a policy of randomly discarding random emails.
Their pop3 server has discarded duplicates from the gitgo, many years ago now. That was one of their original sales pitches if I recall correctly.
The only real solution is to get gmail _out_ of the path used to move the message both ways. One way is fine.
Gmail isn't in my SMTP path.
Please stop trying on my behalf to create a problem that isn't there. That there is a problem I agree. But you have entirely misdiagnosed it.
Lisi
[...]
The only real solution is to get gmail _out_ of the path used to move the message both ways. One way is fine.
Gmail isn't in my SMTP path.
SMTP is sending,. The received header I show above confirms it came to me, from pearsoncomputing thru the gmail server farm.
How are you receiving? If thru a different address/server there shouldn't be a problem. You haven't, that I can recall, related the address you use to receive. That does make a yes/no difference.
Please stop trying on my behalf to create a problem that isn't there. That there is a problem I agree. But you have entirely misdiagnosed it.
With what information I have, that is entirely possible Lisi. Most, unaware of the problem, use the same address for both directions, and I had assumed that. My bad, and my apologies if that is untrue.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Sunday 05 April 2015 16:48:24 Gene Heskett wrote:
[...]
The only real solution is to get gmail _out_ of the path used to move the message both ways. One way is fine.
Gmail isn't in my SMTP path.
SMTP is sending,. The received header I show above confirms it came to me, from pearsoncomputing thru the gmail server farm.
How are you receiving? If thru a different address/server there shouldn't be a problem. You haven't, that I can recall, related the address you use to receive. That does make a yes/no difference.
Please stop trying on my behalf to create a problem that isn't there. That there is a problem I agree. But you have entirely misdiagnosed it.
With what information I have, that is entirely possible Lisi. Most, unaware of the problem, use the same address for both directions, and I had assumed that. My bad, and my apologies if that is untrue.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
This should be coming through the Gmail SMTP server. It will therefore not reach me, so I am sending a copy to my husband so that I can see the headers.
Lisi
On Sunday 05 April 2015 16:48:24 Gene Heskett wrote:
[...]
The only real solution is to get gmail _out_ of the path used to move the message both ways. One way is fine.
Gmail isn't in my SMTP path.
SMTP is sending,. The received header I show above confirms it came to me, from pearsoncomputing thru the gmail server farm.
How are you receiving? If thru a different address/server there shouldn't be a problem. You haven't, that I can recall, related the address you use to receive. That does make a yes/no difference.
Please stop trying on my behalf to create a problem that isn't there. That there is a problem I agree. But you have entirely misdiagnosed it.
With what information I have, that is entirely possible Lisi. Most, unaware of the problem, use the same address for both directions, and I had assumed that. My bad, and my apologies if that is untrue.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
As predicted, I didn't get the one I sent via Gmail's SMTP. My husband did, but the headers weren't similar enough because of his set-up to help me. I shall get this.
Lisi