While I have Internet, of a sort, I still have a few glitches; for example,
I
cannot go offline, then go online again. Somehow, wicd either auto-connects to my wifi network; when instead, I want to enable wifi, then look at the available network choices, because my local network has several nodes or access points within the building where I live, and somehow it doesn't
always
choose the strongest or closest signal. I have an access point right outside my door, yet autoconnect seems to avoid it.
Reply: if you are using some kind of communal wifi. Don't allow auto connect. Bad human. Instead always choose it manually. Go go prefs and untick any auto connect options. Be safe.
But when I try to disconnect, sometimes wicd seems to hang on, and show me still connected, yet I can't download emails or go online for other stuff. When I run macchanger, it keeps showing me that my mac address changes; and
I
run knetstats-trinity (which is a nice simple gui tool) and it shows my wireless is connected then disconnected, shows activity then no activity;
yet
in reality, I can't go online. So my only recourse at this point is to reboot.
When that happens. Restart wicd and wicd-tray. However, before that, do this. "service network restart" from a root terminal. See if that helps.
When I tried to get tdenetworkmanager to run, I had those problems already discussed earlier. I managed to download the packages and dependencies to install network-manager-tde without systemd, so it all *seems* like it ought to work out right, but I always end up going back to wicd; which, again, is only sort of half-working at the moment, and I must keep rebooting.
How would I go about pruning away the wicd stuff that I don't want, and keeping only the tdenetworkmanager and required dependencies, etc.? I've search apt-get, but I believe that I already have all the dependencies and recommends. I can't think what else I might have missed.
You don't need to remove wicd for the moment, just disable it. /etc/xdg/autostart is likely where you will find it. or use whatever startup control tool you have to do the same.
tdenetworkmanager never seemed to work for me unless I ran it as root. Same with net-applet.
Kate
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On Thursday 03 September 2020 08:10:44 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
While I have Internet, of a sort, I still have a few glitches; for example,
I
cannot go offline, then go online again. Somehow, wicd either auto-connects to my wifi network; when instead, I want to enable wifi, then look at the available network choices, because my local network has several nodes or access points within the building where I live, and somehow it doesn't
always
choose the strongest or closest signal. I have an access point right outside my door, yet autoconnect seems to avoid it.
Reply: if you are using some kind of communal wifi. Don't allow auto connect. Bad human. Instead always choose it manually. Go go prefs and untick any auto connect options. Be safe.
No, I never allow my machine to auto-do anything. It is a "secure" network, in the sense that it has a wifi password, which is slightly less difficult that "password" "love" or "god" to figure out, and which has not been changed in nearly a year. So, yes, everybody and their dogs have already cracked our wifi password. On the other hand, it's pretty fast; and with proper precautions, I usually manage to remain either undetected or at least unmolested.
But when I try to disconnect, sometimes wicd seems to hang on, and show me still connected, yet I can't download emails or go online for other stuff. When I run macchanger, it keeps showing me that my mac address changes; and
I
run knetstats-trinity (which is a nice simple gui tool) and it shows my wireless is connected then disconnected, shows activity then no activity;
yet
in reality, I can't go online. So my only recourse at this point is to reboot.
When that happens. Restart wicd and wicd-tray. However, before that, do this. "service network restart" from a root terminal. See if that helps.
When I tried to get tdenetworkmanager to run, I had those problems already discussed earlier. I managed to download the packages and dependencies to install network-manager-tde without systemd, so it all *seems* like it ought to work out right, but I always end up going back to wicd; which, again, is only sort of half-working at the moment, and I must keep rebooting.
How would I go about pruning away the wicd stuff that I don't want, and keeping only the tdenetworkmanager and required dependencies, etc.? I've search apt-get, but I believe that I already have all the dependencies and recommends. I can't think what else I might have missed.
You don't need to remove wicd for the moment, just disable it. /etc/xdg/autostart is likely where you will find it. or use whatever startup control tool you have to do the same.
I'll give those steps a try. I like to have wicd "there" (just in case), but I like tdenetworkmanager better.
tdenetworkmanager never seemed to work for me unless I ran it as root. Same with net-applet.
Kate
When tdenetworkmanager *does* work, it is nice and simple. But mainly, I was always able to disconnect and reconnect my wifi without these lingering issues. I belief this is also the work of the seely folk or their kindred; unless the Men in Black are more clever than they have seemed thus far.
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I use wicd since an update removed network-manager. No problem, I like wicd, there is a small thing (unimportant): in the panels I get a wicd icon - or rather I don't, it shows some geyed warning sign.
I guess I'm missing an icon set (gnome?). As I said it's totaly unimportant but if anyone knows how to make it look better...
.wicd is empty. There is an icon file in /usr/share/pixmaps, should I copy it to some TDE icon set?
Thierry
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On Thursday 03 September 2020 09:52:33 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
I use wicd since an update removed network-manager. No problem, I like wicd, there is a small thing (unimportant): in the panels I get a wicd icon
- or rather I don't, it shows some geyed warning sign.
I guess I'm missing an icon set (gnome?). As I said it's totaly unimportant but if anyone knows how to make it look better...
.wicd is empty. There is an icon file in /usr/share/pixmaps, should I copy it to some TDE icon set?
Thierry
Usually there is some way to make almost any application use almost any icon you want. I use some special icons for other applications. But I am not sure where you mean for the wicd icon: in the system tray? Mine displays a color icon for wicd.
Bill
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On Thursday 03 September 2020 19.30:53 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
Usually there is some way to make almost any application use almost any icon you want. I use some special icons for other applications. But I am not sure where you mean for the wicd icon: in the system tray? Mine displays a color icon for wicd.
Bill
Yes in the system tray. the application is wicd-client.py ; looking at the python script there is somethings about pygtk.
There are *lots* of uninstalled python and gtk packages around and I sure don't want to install all this just in hope to get a nice icon...
Thierry
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On Thursday 03 September 2020 11:38:49 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Thursday 03 September 2020 19.30:53 William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
Usually there is some way to make almost any application use almost any icon you want. I use some special icons for other applications. But I am not sure where you mean for the wicd icon: in the system tray? Mine displays a color icon for wicd.
Bill
Yes in the system tray. the application is wicd-client.py ; looking at the python script there is somethings about pygtk.
There are *lots* of uninstalled python and gtk packages around and I sure don't want to install all this just in hope to get a nice icon...
Thierry
Have you discovered the icons in /usr/share/wicd yet?
Bill
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On Thursday 03 September 2020 21.04:29 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
Have you discovered the icons in /usr/share/wicd yet?
Bill
I had not. However there is only one set names "hicolor" and it does not seem to be used (at least with TDE).
Thierry
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Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Yes in the system tray. the application is wicd-client.py ; looking at the python script there is somethings about pygtk.
There are *lots* of uninstalled python and gtk packages around and I sure don't want to install all this just in hope to get a nice icon...
IMO it is the masochists approach. NetworkManager (the service) and the client in our case tdenetworkmanager work perfectly fine. I took a notbook when traveling last week and booted TDE - WLAN enabling/connecting in the hotel room - without any issue.
GTK people were bad writing GUIs in C, but they got even worse when they started using pygtk. IMO it degraded to unusable around this point of time.
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On Friday 04 September 2020 00.01:16 deloptes wrote:
IMO it is the masochists approach. NetworkManager (the service) and the client in our case tdenetworkmanager work perfectly fine. I took a notbook when traveling last week and booted TDE - WLAN enabling/connecting in the hotel room - without any issue.
I'm not opposed to network manager. However it got uninstalled (I obviously missed it in the list of what got removed, I think it was some apt-get autoremove). I had to install networking back from packages I downloaded from another install and I went for wicd because it seemed to have less dependancies.
Also, AFAIK, wicd does not do this fake-MAC-Address that seems to be so fancy now, and where I work we get identiified by the MAC address.
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