3 Sep
2020
3 Sep
'20
3:10 p.m.
While I have Internet, of a sort, I still have a few
glitches; for example,
I
cannot go offline, then go online again. Somehow, wicd
either auto-connects
to my wifi network; when instead, I want to enable wifi, then look at the
available network choices, because my local network has several nodes or
access points within the building where I live, and somehow it doesn't
always
choose the strongest or closest signal. I have an
access point right outside
my door, yet autoconnect seems to avoid it.
Reply: if you are using some kind of communal wifi. Don't allow auto connect.
Bad human. Instead always choose it manually. Go go prefs and untick any auto
connect options. Be safe.
But when I try to disconnect, sometimes wicd seems to
hang on, and show me
still connected, yet I can't download emails or go online for other stuff.
When I run macchanger, it keeps showing me that my mac address changes; and
I
run knetstats-trinity (which is a nice simple gui
tool) and it shows my
wireless is connected then disconnected, shows activity then no activity;
yet
in reality, I can't go online. So my only recourse
at this point is to
reboot.
When that happens. Restart wicd and wicd-tray. However, before that, do
this.
"service network restart" from a root terminal. See if that helps.
When I tried to get tdenetworkmanager to run, I had
those problems already
discussed earlier. I managed to download the packages and dependencies to
install network-manager-tde without systemd, so it all *seems* like it ought
to work out right, but I always end up going back to wicd; which, again, is
only sort of half-working at the moment, and I must keep rebooting.
How would I go about pruning away the wicd stuff that I don't want, and
keeping only the tdenetworkmanager and required dependencies, etc.? I've
search apt-get, but I believe that I already have all the dependencies and
recommends. I can't think what else I might have missed.
You don't need to remove wicd for the moment, just disable it.
/etc/xdg/autostart is likely where you will find it.
or use whatever startup control tool you have to do the same.
tdenetworkmanager never seemed to work for me unless I ran it as root. Same
with net-applet.
Kate
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3 Sep
3 Sep
3:28 p.m.
New subject: how to get tdenetworkmanager - with no wicd ?
On Thursday 03 September 2020 08:10:44 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
No, I never allow my machine to auto-do anything. It is a "secure" network, in
the sense that it has a wifi password, which is slightly less difficult
that "password" "love" or "god" to figure out, and which has
not been changed
in nearly a year. So, yes, everybody and their dogs have already cracked our
wifi password. On the other hand, it's pretty fast; and with proper
precautions, I usually manage to remain either undetected or at least
unmolested.
I'll give those steps a try. I like to have wicd "there" (just in case), but
I
like tdenetworkmanager better.
While I have
Internet, of a sort, I still have a few glitches; for
example,
I
cannot go offline, then go online again. Somehow,
wicd either
auto-connects to my wifi network; when instead, I want to enable wifi,
then look at the available network choices, because my local network has
several nodes or access points within the building where I live, and
somehow it doesn't
always
choose the strongest or closest signal. I have an
access point right
outside my door, yet autoconnect seems to avoid it.
Reply: if you are using some kind of communal wifi. Don't allow auto
connect. Bad human. Instead always choose it manually. Go go prefs and
untick any auto connect options. Be safe.
But when I try
to disconnect, sometimes wicd seems to hang on, and show
me still connected, yet I can't download emails or go online for other
stuff. When I run macchanger, it keeps showing me that my mac address
changes; and
I
run knetstats-trinity (which is a nice simple gui
tool) and it shows my
wireless is connected then disconnected, shows activity then no activity;
yet
in reality, I can't go online. So my only
recourse at this point is to
reboot.
When that happens. Restart wicd and wicd-tray. However, before that, do
this. "service network restart" from a root terminal. See if that helps.
When I tried to get tdenetworkmanager to run, I
had those problems
already discussed earlier. I managed to download the packages and
dependencies to install network-manager-tde without systemd, so it all
*seems* like it ought to work out right, but I always end up going back
to wicd; which, again, is only sort of half-working at the moment, and I
must keep rebooting.
How would I go about pruning away the wicd stuff that I don't want, and
keeping only the tdenetworkmanager and required dependencies, etc.? I've
search apt-get, but I believe that I already have all the dependencies
and recommends. I can't think what else I might have missed.
You don't need to remove wicd for the moment, just disable it.
/etc/xdg/autostart is likely where you will find it.
or use whatever startup control tool you have to do the same.
tdenetworkmanager never seemed to work for me unless I ran it as root. Same
with net-applet.
Kate
When tdenetworkmanager *does* work, it is nice and simple. But mainly, I was
always able to disconnect and reconnect my wifi without these lingering
issues. I belief this is also the work of the seely folk or their kindred;
unless the Men in Black are more clever than they have seemed thus far.
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4:52 p.m.
New subject: how to get tdenetworkmanager - with no wicd ?
I use wicd since an update removed network-manager. No problem, I like wicd,
there is a small thing (unimportant): in the panels I get a wicd icon - or
rather I don't, it shows some geyed warning sign.
I guess I'm missing an icon set (gnome?). As I said it's totaly unimportant
but if anyone knows how to make it look better...
.wicd is empty. There is an icon file in /usr/share/pixmaps, should I copy it
to some TDE icon set?
Thierry
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5:30 p.m.
New subject: how to get tdenetworkmanager - with no wicd ?
On Thursday 03 September 2020 09:52:33 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
I use wicd since an update removed network-manager. No
problem, I like
wicd, there is a small thing (unimportant): in the panels I get a wicd icon
- or rather I don't, it shows some geyed warning sign.
I guess I'm missing an icon set (gnome?). As I said it's totaly unimportant
but if anyone knows how to make it look better...
.wicd is empty. There is an icon file in /usr/share/pixmaps, should I copy
it to some TDE icon set?
Thierry
Usually there is some way to make almost any application use almost any icon
you want. I use some special icons for other applications. But I am not sure
where you mean for the wicd icon: in the system tray? Mine displays a color
icon for wicd.
Bill
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6:38 p.m.
New subject: how to get tdenetworkmanager - with no wicd ?
On Thursday 03 September 2020 19.30:53 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
Usually there is some way to make almost any
application use almost any
icon you want. I use some special icons for other applications. But I am
not sure where you mean for the wicd icon: in the system tray? Mine
displays a color icon for wicd.
Bill
Yes in the system tray.
the application is wicd-client.py ; looking at the python script there is
somethings about pygtk.
There are *lots* of uninstalled python and gtk packages around and I sure
don't want to install all this just in hope to get a nice icon...
Thierry
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7:04 p.m.
New subject: how to get tdenetworkmanager - with no wicd ?
On Thursday 03 September 2020 11:38:49 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Have you discovered the icons in /usr/share/wicd yet?
Bill
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On Thursday 03 September 2020 19.30:53 William Morder
via trinity-users
wrote:
Usually there
is some way to make almost any application use almost any
icon you want. I use some special icons for other applications. But I am
not sure where you mean for the wicd icon: in the system tray? Mine
displays a color icon for wicd.
Bill
Yes in the system tray.
the application is wicd-client.py ; looking at the python script there is
somethings about pygtk.
There are *lots* of uninstalled python and gtk packages around and I sure
don't want to install all this just in hope to get a nice icon...
Thierry
8:39 p.m.
New subject: how to get tdenetworkmanager - with no wicd ?
On Thursday 03 September 2020 21.04:29 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
Have you discovered the icons in /usr/share/wicd yet?
Bill
I had not. However there is only one set names "hicolor" and it does not seem
to be used (at least with TDE).
Thierry
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10:01 p.m.
New subject: how to get tdenetworkmanager - with no wicd ?
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Yes in the system tray.
the application is wicd-client.py ; looking at the python script there is
somethings about pygtk.
There are *lots* of uninstalled python and gtk packages around and I sure
don't want to install all this just in hope to get a nice icon...
IMO it is the masochists approach. NetworkManager (the service) and the
client in our case tdenetworkmanager work perfectly fine. I took a notbook
when traveling last week and booted TDE - WLAN enabling/connecting in the
hotel room - without any issue.
GTK people were bad writing GUIs in C, but they got even worse when they
started using pygtk. IMO it degraded to unusable around this point of time.
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4 Sep
4 Sep
5:07 a.m.
New subject: how to get tdenetworkmanager - with no wicd ?
On Friday 04 September 2020 00.01:16 deloptes wrote:
IMO it is the masochists approach. NetworkManager (the
service) and the
client in our case tdenetworkmanager work perfectly fine. I took a notbook
when traveling last week and booted TDE - WLAN enabling/connecting in the
hotel room - without any issue.
I'm not opposed to network manager. However it got uninstalled (I obviously
missed it in the list of what got removed, I think it was some apt-get
autoremove). I had to install networking back from packages I downloaded from
another install and I went for wicd because it seemed to have less
dependancies.
Also, AFAIK, wicd does not do this fake-MAC-Address that seems to be so fancy
now, and where I work we get identiified by the MAC address.
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