11 Dec
2012
11 Dec
'12
9:54 a.m.
I just upgraded kdm-trinity
from: 3.5.13-0debian9+r1261450+pr19~squeeze
to: 3.5.13-1debian0+ax3~squeeze
and also, kdmtheme-trinity
from: 3.5.13-0debian9+r1248408+pr1~squeeze
to: 3.5.13-1debian0+ax1~squeeze
And now themes do not seem to be working at all.
I also noticed that the rather long and profusely commented
/etc/trinity/kdm/kdmrc
was overwritten by kcontrol in admin mode when changing themes
Any suggestions for making themes work again?
Thanks!
David
11 Dec
11 Dec
12:33 p.m.
New subject: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation"
As KMail was my main reason for trialling Trinity, I'm really enjoying its proper and
zippy performance.
But just one 'fly in the ointment':
Sometimes when requesting 'Fetch Mail' it comes back with this error that I
have never seen before (KDE3 or 4):
"'Invalid response from server:
Unable to complete LIST operation"
Googling for this shows there was an old bug report:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127696
Until today it has always then worked with a repeat 'Fetch Mail', but today KMail
just locked up.
(So I re-booted into Mandriva 2010.2; it's KDE4 KMail did not complain when asked
to Fetch Mail...)
Why is this happening with Trinity's KMail? (On Mageia-2)
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12:42 p.m.
New subject: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation"
On 11/12/2012 at 12:33 I said:
"'Invalid response from server:
Unable to complete LIST operation"
I've just noticed that that error has not recurred since I
disabled 'Leave Messages on Server"...
So it seems the bug is still there when that is Enabled.
(Only if?)
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/\/\aurice
13 Dec
13 Dec
12:59 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
On 11/12/2012 at 12:42 I said:
I've just noticed that that error has not recurred
since I
disabled 'Leave Messages on Server"...
Sadly it recurred just now, and 'Leave Messages on Server' is still
disabled.
More seriously, shortly after that when KMail received incoming emails
they were shown (in Inbox) with *empty* Subject, Date, From, and To
fields, with the Source of the message as the Body...
(This included a test email that I sent to myself.)
However, after logging out and back in again, the situation has reverted
to normal.
Has anyone seen such a thing before? I haven't.
As KMail (1.9.10) was my main reason for trialling Trinity (3.5.13.1),
I am becoming very uneasy with its stability*, and am considering giving
up on Trinity - which I do not want to do..
(* I've noticed that KMail tends to misbehave immediately after the
spurious "Unable to comoplete LIST operation' warning.)
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/\/\aurice
1:10 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
On Thursday 13 of December 2012 13:59:37 Maurice wrote:
On 11/12/2012 at 12:42 I said:
It appears that this could be the same as the bug 737:
http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=737
I'll try to apply the patch mentioned in this bug message.
Slávek
--
I've just noticed that that error has not
recurred since I
disabled 'Leave Messages on Server"...
Sadly it recurred just now, and 'Leave Messages on Server' is still
disabled.
More seriously, shortly after that when KMail received incoming emails
they were shown (in Inbox) with *empty* Subject, Date, From, and To
fields, with the Source of the message as the Body...
(This included a test email that I sent to myself.)
However, after logging out and back in again, the situation has reverted
to normal.
Has anyone seen such a thing before? I haven't.
As KMail (1.9.10) was my main reason for trialling Trinity (3.5.13.1),
I am becoming very uneasy with its stability*, and am considering giving
up on Trinity - which I do not want to do..
(* I've noticed that KMail tends to misbehave immediately after the
spurious "Unable to comoplete LIST operation' warning.)
3:01 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
On 13/12/2012 at 13:10 Slávek said:
I'll try to apply the patch mentioned in this bug
message.
Meaning there will be an updated version of KMail on the Trinity
repository?
It would be good to be rid of that spurious error, but what is really
worrying is what followed (blank header fields in newly fetched email).
I'll wait and see if it recurs with the modified KMail.
Many thanks!
Regards,
--
/\/\aurice (Using Trinity on Mageia-2)
3:15 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
On 13/12/2012 at 12:59 I said:
However, after logging out and back in again, the
situation has
reverted to normal.
But it has just started again - and not preceded by that LIST error
this time. (3 incoming emails ruined)
So I am having to abandon Trinity and revert to KDE4, until/unless this
crazy KMail behaviour can be stopped...
With sincere regret,
--
/\/\aurice
4:19 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
Am Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2012 schrieb Maurice:
On 13/12/2012 at 12:59 I said:
Well, when that bug hit me I installed fetchmail and I am quite happy with it.
Nik
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Einnehmerstraße 14
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Tel.: +43 650 82 11 724
email: office(a)klepp.biz
However, after logging out and back in again, the
situation has
reverted to normal.
But it has just started again - and not preceded by that LIST error
this time. (3 incoming emails ruined)
So I am having to abandon Trinity and revert to KDE4, until/unless this
crazy KMail behaviour can be stopped...
With sincere regret,
4:32 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
On 2012-12-13 at 16:19 Nik said:
when that bug hit me I installed fetchmail and I am
quite happy with
it.
You mean it's a *known* bug?!
Do you have a bug report reference number, please?
Re. Fetchmail, I was trying Trinity solely for KMail's freedom from
Akonadification, and I shall stay with KMail for the time being, though
- for the time being - not in Trinity.
--
/\/\aurice
5:27 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
You mean it's a *known* bug?!
Do you have a bug report reference number, please?
Re. Fetchmail, I was trying Trinity solely for KMail's freedom from
Akonadification, and I shall stay with KMail for the time being, though
- for the time being - not in Trinity.
Oh, it's quite an old bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127696
http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?t=79231
as in my case, my email provider "updated" his software and I had to work
around.
Anyway, there are some other nice email clients around if you do not want to
go the fetchmail road.
Nik
--
Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Einnehmerstraße 14
A-4810 Gmunden
Tel.: +43 650 82 11 724
email: office(a)klepp.biz
5:34 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
It seems like there were a few proposed solution on the kde bug page.
Has anyone tried these out?
Calvin
On 13 December 2012 12:27, Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <office(a)klepp.biz> wrote:
You mean
it's a *known* bug?!
Do you have a bug report reference number, please?
Re. Fetchmail, I was trying Trinity solely for KMail's freedom from
Akonadification, and I shall stay with KMail for the time being, though
- for the time being - not in Trinity.
Oh, it's quite an old bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127696
http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?t=79231
as in my case, my email provider "updated" his software and I had to work
around.
Anyway, there are some other nice email clients around if you do not want to
go the fetchmail road.
Nik
--
Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Einnehmerstraße 14
A-4810 Gmunden
Tel.: +43 650 82 11 724
email: office(a)klepp.biz
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New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
On Thursday 13 of December 2012 18:34:23 Calvin Morrison wrote:
It seems like there were a few proposed solution on
the kde bug page.
Has anyone tried these out?
Calvin
On 13 December 2012 12:27, Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <office(a)klepp.biz> wrote:
>> You mean it's a *known* bug?!
>> Do you have a bug report reference number, please?
>>
>> Re. Fetchmail, I was trying Trinity solely for KMail's freedom from
>> Akonadification, and I shall stay with KMail for the time being, though
>> - for the time being - not in Trinity.
>
> Oh, it's quite an old bug:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127696
> http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?t=79231
>
> as in my case, my email provider "updated" his software and I had to work
> around.
>
> Anyway, there are some other nice email clients around if you do not want
> to go the fetchmail road.
>
> Nik
>
I looked at the history of the errors were resolved in svn commit:
http://websvn.kde.org/?revision=766946&view=revision
It is therefore a code that is already included in the TDE. For this reason,
the error seems to be interesting bug:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=600907
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230072
and patch from svn commit:
http://websvn.kde.org/?revision=1156867&view=revision
I'll incorporate this commit right now... and also backport it into
v3.5.13-sru branch.
Slávek
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6:28 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
On 13 December 2012 13:19, Slávek Banko <slavek.banko(a)axis.cz> wrote:
On Thursday 13 of December 2012 18:34:23 Calvin
Morrison wrote:
Sorry I am a bit confused. is this included in R14, or not? Has this
been tested?
Calvin
It seems like there were a few proposed solution
on the kde bug page.
Has anyone tried these out?
Calvin
On 13 December 2012 12:27, Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <office(a)klepp.biz> wrote:
>> You mean it's a *known* bug?!
>> Do you have a bug report reference number, please?
>>
>> Re. Fetchmail, I was trying Trinity solely for KMail's freedom from
>> Akonadification, and I shall stay with KMail for the time being, though
>> - for the time being - not in Trinity.
>
> Oh, it's quite an old bug:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127696
> http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?t=79231
>
> as in my case, my email provider "updated" his software and I had to work
> around.
>
> Anyway, there are some other nice email clients around if you do not want
> to go the fetchmail road.
>
> Nik
>
I looked at the history of the errors were resolved in svn commit:
http://websvn.kde.org/?revision=766946&view=revision
It is therefore a code that is already included in the TDE. For this reason,
the error seems to be interesting bug:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=600907
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230072
and patch from svn commit:
http://websvn.kde.org/?revision=1156867&view=revision
I'll incorporate this commit right now... and also backport it into
v3.5.13-sru branch. Slávek
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6:40 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
On Thursday 13 of December 2012 19:28:58 Calvin Morrison wrote:
Fix from KDE SVN commit 766946 was already included before fork to TDE.
Fix from KDE SVN commit 1156867 I pushed into R14 (as well as into v3.5.13-sru
branch) right now. I looked that similar code is also for IMAP kioslave and
there has also been used memmove - not memcpy. From this perspective, the
solution seems to be correct - after all, is also in KDE4.
Note: Soon I'll release test packages for 3.5.13.2, in which fix will be
already included.
Slávek
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I looked at
the history of the errors were resolved in svn commit:
http://websvn.kde.org/?revision=766946&view=revision
It is therefore a code that is already included in the TDE. For this
reason, the error seems to be interesting bug:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=600907
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230072
and patch from svn commit:
http://websvn.kde.org/?revision=1156867&view=revision
I'll incorporate this commit right now... and also backport it into
v3.5.13-sru branch.
Sorry I am a bit confused. is this included in R14, or not? Has this
been tested?
Calvin
6:42 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
Am Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2012 schrieb Slávek Banko:
I am not sure if the patch is still working. I had to change to fetchmail on
2012/5/26.
Nik
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Einnehmerstraße 14
A-4810 Gmunden
Tel.: +43 650 82 11 724
email: office(a)klepp.biz
On Thursday 13 of December 2012 18:34:23 Calvin
Morrison wrote:
> It seems like there were a few proposed solution on the kde bug page.
> Has anyone tried these out?
>
> Calvin
>
> On 13 December 2012 12:27, Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <office(a)klepp.biz>
wrote:
>> You
mean it's a *known* bug?!
>> Do you have a bug report reference number, please?
>>
>> Re. Fetchmail, I was trying Trinity solely for KMail's freedom from
>> Akonadification, and I shall stay with KMail for the time being,
>> though - for the time being - not in Trinity.
>
> Oh, it's quite an old bug:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127696
> http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?t=79231
>
> as in my case, my email provider "updated" his software and I had to
> work around.
>
> Anyway, there are some other nice email clients around if you do not
> want to go the fetchmail road.
>
> Nik
I looked at the history of the errors were resolved in svn commit:
http://websvn.kde.org/?revision=766946&view=revision
It is therefore a code that is already included in the TDE. For this
reason, the error seems to be interesting bug:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=600907
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230072
and patch from svn commit:
http://websvn.kde.org/?revision=1156867&view=revision
I'll incorporate this commit right now... and also backport it into
v3.5.13-sru branch.
Slávek
6:46 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
On Thursday 13 of December 2012 19:42:14 Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2012 schrieb Slávek
Banko:
I am not sure if the patch is still working. I had to change to fetchmail
on 2012/5/26.
Nik
If you are using KDE3 / Trinity, so this patch was incorporated today == in
May 2012 you could not test if it works. Only if you use KDE4, in which has
patch already been included.. :)
Slávek
--
On Thursday 13 of December 2012 18:34:23 Calvin
Morrison wrote:
> It seems like there were a few proposed solution on the kde bug page.
> Has anyone tried these out?
>
> Calvin
>
> On 13 December 2012 12:27, Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <office(a)klepp.biz>
wrote:
>>
You mean it's a *known* bug?!
>> Do you have a bug report reference number, please?
>>
>> Re. Fetchmail, I was trying Trinity solely for KMail's freedom from
>> Akonadification, and I shall stay with KMail for the time being,
>> though - for the time being - not in Trinity.
>
> Oh, it's quite an old bug:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127696
> http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?t=79231
>
> as in my case, my email provider "updated" his software and I had to
> work around.
>
> Anyway, there are some other nice email clients around if you do not
> want to go the fetchmail road.
>
> Nik
I looked at the history of the errors were resolved in svn commit:
http://websvn.kde.org/?revision=766946&view=revision
It is therefore a code that is already included in the TDE. For this
reason, the error seems to be interesting bug:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=600907
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230072
and patch from svn commit:
http://websvn.kde.org/?revision=1156867&view=revision
I'll incorporate this commit right now... and also backport it into
v3.5.13-sru branch.
Slávek
6:50 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
Am Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2012 schrieb Slávek Banko:
On Thursday 13 of December 2012 19:42:14 Mag. Dr.
Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Ah, no timemaschine on my side :-)
nik
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Tel.: +43 650 82 11 724
email: office(a)klepp.biz
Am Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2012 schrieb Slávek
Banko:
I am not sure if the patch is still working. I had to change to fetchmail
on 2012/5/26.
Nik
If you are using KDE3 / Trinity, so this patch was incorporated today == in
May 2012 you could not test if it works. Only if you use KDE4, in which
has patch already been included.. :)
Slávek On Thursday 13 of December 2012 18:34:23 Calvin
Morrison wrote:
> It seems like there were a few proposed solution on the kde bug page.
> Has anyone tried these out?
>
> Calvin
>
> On 13 December 2012 12:27, Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <office(a)klepp.biz>
wrote:
>>
You mean it's a *known* bug?!
>> Do you have a bug report reference number, please?
>>
>> Re. Fetchmail, I was trying Trinity solely for KMail's freedom
>> from Akonadification, and I shall stay with KMail for the time
>> being, though - for the time being - not in Trinity.
>
> Oh, it's quite an old bug:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127696
> http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?t=79231
>
> as in my case, my email provider "updated" his software and I had
> to work around.
>
> Anyway, there are some other nice email clients around if you do
> not want to go the fetchmail road.
>
> Nik
I looked at the history of the errors were resolved in svn commit:
http://websvn.kde.org/?revision=766946&view=revision
It is therefore a code that is already included in the TDE. For this
reason, the error seems to be interesting bug:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=600907
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230072
and patch from svn commit:
http://websvn.kde.org/?revision=1156867&view=revision
I'll incorporate this commit right now... and also backport it into
v3.5.13-sru branch.
Slávek
5:34 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
On 2012-12-13 at 17:27 Nik said:
Oh, it's quite an old bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127696
http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?t=79231
But that's the 'LIST' bug.
The killer for me was the other bug I described earlier today whereby
newly-fetched email is show in Inbox with *empty headers* and the whole
source file shown as the body.
In all my years of using KMail, I have never seen either error before...
Regards,
--
/\/\aurice
5:44 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012, Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
I didn't think of 'fetchmail' as an email _client_. you don't use it
to read email, you use it to fetch email via pop or something.
I thought the original suggestion then wasn't to _replace_ kmail with
fetchmail but to have kmail read the mail fetchmail has downloaded.
perhaps I misunderstand.
I have no idea if it would solve the problem - I haven't read the bug
report.
grüsse!
F.
--
Felmon Davis
When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable,
must be the truth.
-- Sherlock Holmes, "The Sign of Four"
You mean
it's a *known* bug?!
Do you have a bug report reference number, please?
Re. Fetchmail, I was trying Trinity solely for KMail's freedom from
Akonadification, and I shall stay with KMail for the time being, though
- for the time being - not in Trinity.
Oh, it's quite an old bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127696
http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?t=79231
as in my case, my email provider "updated" his software and I had to work
around.
Anyway, there are some other nice email clients around if you do not want to
go the fetchmail road.
6:39 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: KMail: "Unable to complete LIST operation" + weird Inbox results
Am Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2012 schrieb Felmon Davis:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012, Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
I didn't think of 'fetchmail' as an email _client_. you don't use it
to read email, you use it to fetch email via pop or something.
I thought the original suggestion then wasn't to _replace_ kmail with
fetchmail but to have kmail read the mail fetchmail has downloaded.
perhaps I misunderstand.
I have no idea if it would solve the problem - I haven't read the bug
report.
grüsse!
F.
Yes, I wanted to suggest that as a workaround one could use fetchmail to
download the mails, procmail for local delvery and kmail for reading and
writing.
But some users have strong objections against a daemon fetching their mail, so
maybe an other client gives a better feeling ... where one has to keep in
mind that changing from maildir to mailbox format bears its own pitfalls like
loosing any mail in one dark black moment ;-)
Nik
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Einnehmerstraße 14
A-4810 Gmunden
Tel.: +43 650 82 11 724
email: office(a)klepp.biz
You mean
it's a *known* bug?!
Do you have a bug report reference number, please?
Re. Fetchmail, I was trying Trinity solely for KMail's freedom from
Akonadification, and I shall stay with KMail for the time being, though
- for the time being - not in Trinity.
Oh, it's quite an old bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127696
http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?t=79231
as in my case, my email provider "updated" his software and I had to work
around.
Anyway, there are some other nice email clients around if you do not want
to go the fetchmail road.
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