1 Apr
2023
1 Apr
'23
6:52 p.m.
I'm testing TDE 4:14.1.0 from PSB.
At least twice a "Device Manager" has appeared in my "Panel"
(part of my Kicker setup along with the "Main Panel" and the
"External Taskbar").
This Device Manager features two volumes: one is /boot/efi
and another which I suspect is a Windows Recovery partition
from when the laptop was first purchased.
I REALLY don't want this "Device Manager" appearing and
confusing and tempting end users.
This "Device Manager" is not listed when I right click to
"Remove From Panel" / Applet or Application.
How please do I prevent this "Device Manager" from appearing
here?
Thanks,
--Mike
1 Apr
1 Apr
9:58 p.m.
On Saturday 01 April 2023 11:52:54 Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:
I'm testing TDE 4:14.1.0 from PSB.
At least twice a "Device Manager" has appeared in my "Panel"
(part of my Kicker setup along with the "Main Panel" and the
"External Taskbar").
This Device Manager features two volumes: one is /boot/efi
and another which I suspect is a Windows Recovery partition
from when the laptop was first purchased.
I REALLY don't want this "Device Manager" appearing and
confusing and tempting end users.
This "Device Manager" is not listed when I right click to
"Remove From Panel" / Applet or Application.
How please do I prevent this "Device Manager" from appearing
here?
Thanks,
--Mike
Since nobody else is answering ... I kept trying to determine what you mean
by "Device Manager" in the lower panel (or kicker). I can only guess that
somehow you have right-clicked and added an applet: either "System Menu"
or "Storage Media"?
In any case, if we are talking about the same thing: then you only need to
right-click to unlock the lower panel. Hover the mouse over the icon for this
item, and you ought to see a small arrow, either directly above, or sometimes
to one side, of that icon. Click (or right-click) on that, and you will see a
menu with a few otions. (Don't know why, but some icons need right-click,
others reveal this menu with left-click.) Among the options are to move the
icon (which usually screws up everything else in my lower panel, and also
just to remove.)
Once you have got rid of the intruder, remember to right-click and lock your
lower panel. Otherwise, I find, things tend to move around and get messed up.
Bill
11:55 p.m.
On Sat April 1 2023 14:58:30 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
Since nobody else is answering ... I kept trying to
determine what you mean
by "Device Manager" in the lower panel (or kicker). I can only guess that
somehow you have right-clicked and added an applet: either "System Menu"
or "Storage Media"?
In any case, if we are talking about the same thing: then you only need to
right-click to unlock the lower panel. Hover the mouse over the icon for
this item, and you ought to see a small arrow, either directly above, or
sometimes to one side, of that icon. Click (or right-click) on that, and
you will see a menu with a few otions. (Don't know why, but some icons need
right-click, others reveal this menu with left-click.) Among the options
are to move the icon (which usually screws up everything else in my lower
panel, and also just to remove.)
Hi Bill,
Thank you but that's not it. It is not listed among the apps or
applications I can remove from the panel. It appears there on its
own at boot.
Or now I look more closely I believe it's not appearing directly in
the panel but rather in the system tray which is in the panel.
So my question might be how do I stop this device manager from
autostarting and appearing in the system tray in 14.1.0 which was not
doing this in 14.0.13? More specifically: in 14.1.0 I have an instance
of tdehwdevicetray running which is not there in 14.0.13.
--Mike
2 Apr
2 Apr
12:19 a.m.
On Saturday 01 April 2023 06:55:46 pm Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:
So my question might be how do I stop this device
manager from
autostarting and appearing in the system tray in 14.1.0 which was not
doing this in 14.0.13? More specifically: in 14.1.0 I have an instance
of tdehwdevicetray running which is not there in 14.0.13.
Screen cap so we can see what you're talking about?
And what's on its About?
Best,
Michael
12:45 a.m.
On Sat April 1 2023 17:19:59 Michael via tde-users wrote:
Screen cap so we can see what you're talking
about?
Screen cap attached. Left is TDE background, center is Panel, right
is Main Panel. There's also an External Toolbar which is not shown.
The green thing with the blue circle with the white "i" is the thing
of interest. Mouse is hovering over it in order to display tooltip.
And what's on its About?
The About calls it "Device Monitor 0.1" and the tooltip as shown in
the screen cap shows "Device Monitor". Otherwise it contains lots of
mentions of "Device Manager". Maybe this thing monitors devices and
offers to invoke Device Manager on volumes which are not mounted.
Specifically it is a tdehwdevicetray process.
1:19 a.m.
On Saturday 01 April 2023 17:45:28 Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:
On Sat April 1 2023 17:19:59 Michael via tde-users
wrote:
I sorta figured that you would have already discovered those other suspects.
Okay, so I don't have a solution, but I did come up with a little more info,
just by poking around my own system. The item in question is apparently named
tdehwdevicetray; so, on the assumption that it was actually an app that could
be uninstalled, then reinstalled again,
I tried to uninstall it, got the message "Unable to locate package
tdehwdevicetray"; so I thought, maybe it's part of some other package, and I
tried to remove it as tdehwdevicetray*, but still no luck. I tried searching
for it by apt-cache search, still nothing.
For what it's worth, I included a screenshot of where it occurs in my start
menu, but otherwise I am striking out.
Bill
Screen cap so we can see what you're talking
about?
Screen cap attached. Left is TDE background, center is Panel, right
is Main Panel. There's also an External Toolbar which is not shown.
The green thing with the blue circle with the white "i" is the thing
of interest. Mouse is hovering over it in order to display tooltip.
And what's on its About?
The About calls it "Device Monitor 0.1" and the tooltip as shown in
the screen cap shows "Device Monitor". Otherwise it contains lots of
mentions of "Device Manager". Maybe this thing monitors devices and
offers to invoke Device Manager on volumes which are not mounted.
Specifically it is a tdehwdevicetray process.
1:53 a.m.
On Saturday 01 April 2023 08:19:10 pm William Morder via tde-users wrote:
I tried to uninstall it, got the message "Unable
to locate package
tdehwdevicetray"; so I thought, maybe it's part of some other package, and
I tried to remove it as tdehwdevicetray*, but still no luck. I tried
searching for it by apt-cache search, still nothing.
tdehwdevicetray isn't part of Trinity R14.0.13 (that was probably a given)
Mike, try these commands:
# which tdehwdevicetray
# dpkg -S {full path to tdehwdevicetray}
That should tell you which package owns the file.
If that doesn't work, then try 'ps aux | grep tdehw' or the like to track it
down.
Best,
Michael
2:02 a.m.
On Saturday 01 April 2023 18:53:03 Michael via tde-users wrote:
tdehwdevicetray isn't part of Trinity R14.0.13
(that was probably a given)
Mike, try these commands:
# which tdehwdevicetray
# dpkg -S {full path to tdehwdevicetray}
That should tell you which package owns the file.
If that doesn't work, then try 'ps aux | grep tdehw' or the like to track it
down.
Best,
Michael
And the answer is: kcontrol-trinity
Bill
3:55 a.m.
How please do I prevent this "Device
Manager" from appearing
here?
Hi Mike,
right click on the device monitor icon, select Quit, a small dialog appears and ask if the
device monitor should be
started again at login, choose "Do not start". Done.
If it still shows up at the next login, let us know because it would mean there is a bug.
But by experience, it should
just work fine :-)
Cheers
Michele
4:30 a.m.
New subject: Unwanted Device Manager in Panel (SOLVED)
On Sat April 1 2023 20:55:26 Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
That fixed it. Thank you Michele.
How please do
I prevent this "Device Manager" from appearing
here?
right click on the device monitor icon, select Quit, a small dialog appears
and ask if the device monitor should be started again at login, choose "Do
not start". Done.
If it still shows up at the next login, let us know because it would mean
there is a bug. But by experience, it should just work fine :-) 
4:43 p.m.
On Sun April 2 2023 09:29:10 ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
On Saturday 01 April 2023 20:52:54 Mike Bird via
tde-users wrote:
Preliminary Stable Build - a bit like a beta test.
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
--Mike
I'm testing TDE 4:14.1.0 from PSB.
What is PSB ?
3 Apr
3 Apr
2:11 a.m.
New subject: Unwanted Device Manager in Panel // digression on PSB and PTB
On 2023/04/03 01:43 AM, Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:
On Sun April 2 2023 09:29:10 ajh-valmer via tde-users
wrote:
There is also PTB: Preliminary Testing Builds
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Testing_Builds
Both PSB and PTB are rolling builds, so they update continuously.
PSB tracks the next stable build, while PTB tracks the main development branch.
So far PSB have tracked the R14.0.x series and PTB R14.1.0-development.
With the release of R14.1.0 coming in few weeks, PSB has now switched to track the R14.1.x
series, while PTB will switch
to R14.2.0-development from next month (May).
At the present time, PSB and PTB are the same, but only for few more weeks.
They are only available for limited .deb based distros.
PSB is extremely stable and could safely be used on a daily basis.
PTB is very stable, but from time to time we need to make changes that may break things
for a short while. In that case
we usually warn in advance on the ML and as long as you hold back updates till the issue
is resolved, PTB is still very
usable. With the advent of TGW and pull requests, the number of breakages has highly
reduced in the last few years.
Cheers
Michele
On Saturday 01 April 2023 20:52:54 Mike Bird via
tde-users wrote:
Preliminary Stable Build - a bit like a beta test.
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
I'm testing TDE 4:14.1.0 from PSB.
What is PSB ?
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