Greetings all;
I updated tde about 2 hours ago, 300+ files.
Its totally fscked, defaulting to xfce4 and nothing but a tiny terminal works. But that terminal is enough to get more started.
Can't find kmail from the xfce4 menu but kmail is what it reports it cannot find so $path is screwed.
I've gone single and tried to relink default-display back to /opt/trinity/bin/tdm, failed. Tried to reset it in /etc/default, failed. Tried just about everthiing including re-installing the trinty-base & twm/tdm stuffs. no luck
I finally found /opt/trinity/bin/kmail and have it running but no clue if I can send this.
How in tuncket do I restore my default desktop to tde now??? I asccidently touched the folder icon, it opened a huge requester asnd froze everthing but gkrellm which I had found and started so I could see if the robots were DDOSing me, so I had to re-start it with the front panel reset button.
I likely have the whole thing to fix as right now its cycleing back and forth as its starting x with a tde login but clears that screen and eventually starts xfce4. And here come the damned bots, so I gotta get iptables running.
Thanks for any help. debian stretch on amd64 if that helps.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 12:26:17 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
I updated tde about 2 hours ago, 300+ files.
Its totally fscked, defaulting to xfce4 and nothing but a tiny terminal works. But that terminal is enough to get more started.
Can't find kmail from the xfce4 menu but kmail is what it reports it cannot find so $path is screwed.
I've gone single and tried to relink default-display back to /opt/trinity/bin/tdm, failed. Tried to reset it in /etc/default, failed. Tried just about everthiing including re-installing the trinty-base & twm/tdm stuffs. no luck
I finally found /opt/trinity/bin/kmail and have it running but no clue if I can send this.
How in tuncket do I restore my default desktop to tde now??? I asccidently touched the folder icon, it opened a huge requester asnd froze everthing but gkrellm which I had found and started so I could see if the robots were DDOSing me, so I had to re-start it with the front panel reset button.
I likely have the whole thing to fix as right now its cycleing back and forth as its starting x with a tde login but clears that screen and eventually starts xfce4. And here come the damned bots, so I gotta get iptables running.
Thanks for any help. debian stretch on amd64 if that helps.
Gene I feel your pain, been there, hated it...
Everyone who hasn’t updated yet, make sure to do a full disk clone of your OS and Home dir disks!
General Instructions:
- Make and Boot into a Live CD/USB - Mount an external disk [bigger than your OS and Home disk(s)]
- Command prompt (root) - - fdisk -l # (Identify your partition information) - - blockdev --getbsz {partition} # (Find your block size) - - Use dd to clone the entire OS and Home disk(s) to a file on the external drive. *
* Do NOT use noerror * If you’ve never used dd before, read 3 to 6 web guides first!
Best All, Michael
PS: Gene, my best guess for a fix at your point is to make a backup of your home dir, do a full wipe, and then full reinstall. I have some partial scripts I use to re-integrate the old home dir into the new home dir, send me a mail if you want them.
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 21.03:33 Michael wrote:
Everyone who hasn’t updated yet, make sure to do a full disk clone of your OS and Home dir disks!
I feel this is a necessary step before *any* update. That's why my systems use boot SSD's and I make a copy (I use Image for Linux but dd would do).
I've updated both Buster (from Slavek's preliminary builds) and Stretch (from the regular repositories) with no real problem.
As William Morder says, run dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity before reboot, Debian get's updated too (new kernel) and reverts to some Debian DM (lightdm or gdm3 here). Nasty Debian way...
Updating without a sound backup is a risky way of life.
Thierry
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 10:26:17 Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
I updated tde about 2 hours ago, 300+ files.
Its totally fscked, defaulting to xfce4 and nothing but a tiny terminal works. But that terminal is enough to get more started.
Can't find kmail from the xfce4 menu but kmail is what it reports it cannot find so $path is screwed.
I've gone single and tried to relink default-display back to /opt/trinity/bin/tdm, failed. Tried to reset it in /etc/default, failed. Tried just about everthiing including re-installing the trinty-base & twm/tdm stuffs. no luck
I finally found /opt/trinity/bin/kmail and have it running but no clue if I can send this.
How in tuncket do I restore my default desktop to tde now??? I asccidently touched the folder icon, it opened a huge requester asnd froze everthing but gkrellm which I had found and started so I could see if the robots were DDOSing me, so I had to re-start it with the front panel reset button.
I likely have the whole thing to fix as right now its cycleing back and forth as its starting x with a tde login but clears that screen and eventually starts xfce4. And here come the damned bots, so I gotta get iptables running.
Thanks for any help. debian stretch on amd64 if that helps.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
I also had some glitches. When I update Trinity with a big load of new packages, somehow it sets my login and stuff to KDE or maybe Gnome (I don't recognize them any more), but after login still opens in my TDE; however, the login security feature disappears (whatever it's called), and sometimes I end up having to reinstall everything with new packages just to get everything back to normal. This has been a recurring bug, or maybe more than a bug; at any rate, it bugs me a whole lot.
Have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity"?
When I do this, I find that my default desktop has been changed, apparently to KDE, even though I didn't install anything KDE.
Bill
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 15:13:29 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinit
And while it shows tdm-trinity as a choice, it not capable of being selected. Lightdm is highlighted as the top line, no effect from the mouse or tab key.
???
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-12-31 13:26 (UTC-0500):
Thanks for any help. debian stretch on amd64 if that helps.
1-Make sure tdm-trinity is installed and configured.
2-Purge lightdm, sddm, kdm, gdm and any other dm you can find besides tdm.
3-Make sure /etc/X11/default-display-manager exists and contains /opt/trinity/bin/tdm.
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 18:26:24 Felix Miata wrote:
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-12-31 13:26 (UTC-0500):
Thanks for any help. debian stretch on amd64 if that helps.
1-Make sure tdm-trinity is installed and configured.
2-Purge lightdm, sddm, kdm, gdm and any other dm you can find besides tdm.
Did that, now the dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity kills the xsession and restarts xfce4 w/o presenting a choice menu, it just restartx xfce4 And now I've got 10 minutes or more getting everything restarted. grrr.
3-Make sure /etc/X11/default-display-manager exists and contains /opt/trinity/bin/tdm.
It exists, and does contain the above.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 18:45:46 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 18:26:24 Felix Miata wrote:
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-12-31 13:26 (UTC-0500):
Thanks for any help. debian stretch on amd64 if that helps.
1-Make sure tdm-trinity is installed and configured.
2-Purge lightdm, sddm, kdm, gdm and any other dm you can find besides tdm.
Did that, now the dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity kills the xsession and restarts xfce4 w/o presenting a choice menu, it just restartx xfce4 And now I've got 10 minutes or more getting everything restarted. grrr.
3-Make sure /etc/X11/default-display-manager exists and contains /opt/trinity/bin/tdm.
It exists, and does contain the above.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Got it, re-installed the heart of tde, 20 or so files with gksudo synaptic, ran the dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity again, no errors I hadn't seen before.
logged out, in due time the tdm login showed up, this time with a real window manager menu. Default (last session) checked, switched it to tde, clicked on login and everything seems back to normal.
But the damned bots are back to DDOSing me. Its one of the cz bots, and while iptables claims its running and that address is shown as dropped, it also is not incrementing ANY of the counters. I guess pita that it is restarting everything, its time for a full shutdown reboot.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 01 of January 2020 01:44:44 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 18:45:46 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 18:26:24 Felix Miata wrote:
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-12-31 13:26 (UTC-0500):
Thanks for any help. debian stretch on amd64 if that helps.
1-Make sure tdm-trinity is installed and configured.
2-Purge lightdm, sddm, kdm, gdm and any other dm you can find besides tdm.
Did that, now the dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity kills the xsession and restarts xfce4 w/o presenting a choice menu, it just restartx xfce4 And now I've got 10 minutes or more getting everything restarted. grrr.
3-Make sure /etc/X11/default-display-manager exists and contains /opt/trinity/bin/tdm.
It exists, and does contain the above.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Got it, re-installed the heart of tde, 20 or so files with gksudo synaptic, ran the dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity again, no errors I hadn't seen before.
logged out, in due time the tdm login showed up, this time with a real window manager menu. Default (last session) checked, switched it to tde, clicked on login and everything seems back to normal.
But the damned bots are back to DDOSing me. Its one of the cz bots, and while iptables claims its running and that address is shown as dropped, it also is not incrementing ANY of the counters. I guess pita that it is restarting everything, its time for a full shutdown reboot.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Hi Gene,
now I realized one potential problem when updating from a previous version: During the tdm-trinity upgrade, the previous version of the package performs an unwanted removal of the init script /etc/init.d/tdm. If your system uses init scripts, this can be a critical issue. The best way to get the init script back is:
apt-get purge tdm-trinity && apt-get install tdm-trinity
Cheers
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 20:49:33 Slávek Banko wrote:
On Wednesday 01 of January 2020 01:44:44 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 18:45:46 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 18:26:24 Felix Miata wrote:
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-12-31 13:26 (UTC-0500):
Thanks for any help. debian stretch on amd64 if that helps.
1-Make sure tdm-trinity is installed and configured.
2-Purge lightdm, sddm, kdm, gdm and any other dm you can find besides tdm.
Did that, now the dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity kills the xsession and restarts xfce4 w/o presenting a choice menu, it just restartx xfce4 And now I've got 10 minutes or more getting everything restarted. grrr.
3-Make sure /etc/X11/default-display-manager exists and contains /opt/trinity/bin/tdm.
It exists, and does contain the above.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Got it, re-installed the heart of tde, 20 or so files with gksudo synaptic, ran the dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity again, no errors I hadn't seen before.
logged out, in due time the tdm login showed up, this time with a real window manager menu. Default (last session) checked, switched it to tde, clicked on login and everything seems back to normal.
But the damned bots are back to DDOSing me. Its one of the cz bots, and while iptables claims its running and that address is shown as dropped, it also is not incrementing ANY of the counters. I guess pita that it is restarting everything, its time for a full shutdown reboot.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Hi Gene,
now I realized one potential problem when updating from a previous version: During the tdm-trinity upgrade, the previous version of the package performs an unwanted removal of the init script /etc/init.d/tdm. If your system uses init scripts, this can be a critical issue. The best way to get the init script back is:
apt-get purge tdm-trinity && apt-get install tdm-trinity
I did re-installs, probably not exactly the same, but I do now have a tdm file in /etc/init.d. And I seem to be working ok after an extra full power down boot. Fingers crossed of coarse. Thanks Slavec.
Cheers
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Slávek Banko composed on 2020-01-01 02:49 (UTC+0100):
now I realized one potential problem when updating from a previous version: During the tdm-trinity upgrade, the previous version of the package performs an unwanted removal of the init script /etc/init.d/tdm. If your system uses init scripts, this can be a critical issue. The best way to get the init script back is:
apt-get purge tdm-trinity && apt-get install tdm-trinity
Didn't work for me with Upstart 16.04 -> 18.04. /etc/init.d/tdm-trinity is symlinked to a non-existent /lib/init/upstart-job, duly noted in the journal without saying anything helpful. There is a backtrace in Xorg, but I can't ID the cause: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/TDE/xorg0log-p5bse-u1804.txt
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 18:45:46 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 18:26:24 Felix Miata wrote:
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-12-31 13:26 (UTC-0500):
Thanks for any help. debian stretch on amd64 if that helps.
1-Make sure tdm-trinity is installed and configured.
2-Purge lightdm, sddm, kdm, gdm and any other dm you can find besides tdm.
Did that, now the dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity kills the xsession and restarts xfce4 w/o presenting a choice menu, it just restartx xfce4 And now I've got 10 minutes or more getting everything restarted. grrr.
3-Make sure /etc/X11/default-display-manager exists and contains /opt/trinity/bin/tdm.
It exists, and does contain the above.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Also I have TDE installed on one of my milling machines, and logging in to run linuxcnc after upgrading it to 14.0.7 seems to have gone aglay there also. I'll see if a similar procedure will fix it later today when I can get to its own keyboard. There from an ssh -Y login, dpkg-reconfigure tdm.trinity, reports that tdm.trinity is not installed. So I callup synaptic and re-install tdm.trinity, but still get the message that its not installed:(paste from that ssh login) 14.0.7 on 2 machines, 2 machines failed.
gene@GO704:~/linuxcnc/configs/GO704-5i25-7i76$ gksudo synaptic gene@GO704:~/linuxcnc/configs/GO704-5i25-7i76$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm.trinity [sudo] password for gene: dpkg-query: package 'tdm.trinity' is not installed and no information is available Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files, and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents. /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: tdm.trinity is not installed
Looks like that package needs help. That machine is still running wheezy FWIW.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 01 of January 2020 08:02:17 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 18:45:46 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 18:26:24 Felix Miata wrote:
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-12-31 13:26 (UTC-0500):
Thanks for any help. debian stretch on amd64 if that helps.
1-Make sure tdm-trinity is installed and configured.
2-Purge lightdm, sddm, kdm, gdm and any other dm you can find besides tdm.
Did that, now the dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity kills the xsession and restarts xfce4 w/o presenting a choice menu, it just restartx xfce4 And now I've got 10 minutes or more getting everything restarted. grrr.
3-Make sure /etc/X11/default-display-manager exists and contains /opt/trinity/bin/tdm.
It exists, and does contain the above.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Also I have TDE installed on one of my milling machines, and logging in to run linuxcnc after upgrading it to 14.0.7 seems to have gone aglay there also. I'll see if a similar procedure will fix it later today when I can get to its own keyboard. There from an ssh -Y login, dpkg-reconfigure tdm.trinity, reports that tdm.trinity is not installed. So I callup synaptic and re-install tdm.trinity, but still get the message that its not installed:(paste from that ssh login) 14.0.7 on 2 machines, 2 machines failed.
gene@GO704:~/linuxcnc/configs/GO704-5i25-7i76$ gksudo synaptic gene@GO704:~/linuxcnc/configs/GO704-5i25-7i76$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm.trinity [sudo] password for gene: dpkg-query: package 'tdm.trinity' is not installed and no information is available Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files, and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents. /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: tdm.trinity is not installed
Looks like that package needs help. That machine is still running wheezy FWIW.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Hi Gene,
in the mail you mention tdm.trinity several times - I do not know if it is a repeated typo in the mail or if you really typed such a name in the command line? It should be tdm-trinity.
Cheers
On Wednesday 01 January 2020 04:03:09 Slávek Banko wrote:
On Wednesday 01 of January 2020 08:02:17 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 18:45:46 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 18:26:24 Felix Miata wrote:
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-12-31 13:26 (UTC-0500):
Thanks for any help. debian stretch on amd64 if that helps.
1-Make sure tdm-trinity is installed and configured.
2-Purge lightdm, sddm, kdm, gdm and any other dm you can find besides tdm.
Did that, now the dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity kills the xsession and restarts xfce4 w/o presenting a choice menu, it just restartx xfce4 And now I've got 10 minutes or more getting everything restarted. grrr.
3-Make sure /etc/X11/default-display-manager exists and contains /opt/trinity/bin/tdm.
It exists, and does contain the above.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Also I have TDE installed on one of my milling machines, and logging in to run linuxcnc after upgrading it to 14.0.7 seems to have gone aglay there also. I'll see if a similar procedure will fix it later today when I can get to its own keyboard. There from an ssh -Y login, dpkg-reconfigure tdm.trinity, reports that tdm.trinity is not installed. So I callup synaptic and re-install tdm.trinity, but still get the message that its not installed:(paste from that ssh login) 14.0.7 on 2 machines, 2 machines failed.
gene@GO704:~/linuxcnc/configs/GO704-5i25-7i76$ gksudo synaptic gene@GO704:~/linuxcnc/configs/GO704-5i25-7i76$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm.trinity [sudo] password for gene: dpkg-query: package 'tdm.trinity' is not installed and no information is available Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files, and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents. /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: tdm.trinity is not installed
Looks like that package needs help. That machine is still running wheezy FWIW.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Hi Gene,
in the mail you mention tdm.trinity several times - I do not know if it is a repeated typo in the mail or if you really typed such a name in the command line? It should be tdm-trinity.
Cheers
Probably a typo, but I'll sure check it right now. And you are right, now its not an error. Reboot in progress.
And now the startup error seems to be pointing at a missing gladevcp. Thats is a gcode helper I don't use very often. Removed its references from the .ini file, and linixcnc runs ok w/o it.
But this is typical, everytime we find a tool that lets us enhance the usefullness of linuxcnc, it gets removed. A tool that needs GTK-2, I had installed it to see if it would be helpfull when I was doing something I'd not done before. I generally write my own g-code, its not THAT hard. I got to look at it for about 6 months, now its gone and in terms of GUI usefullness, GTK-3 isn't even as usefull as those famous appendages on a boar hogs belly. Not your fault but Grrrrrrrrrr.
Than you Slávek, and I hope 2020 is a better year for everybody...
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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