I am shortly giving a talk on TDE. Any points that people particularly think I should mention? In fact, any pointers?
I love the light flexibility and the marvellous configurability. Its single biggest plus for me is the set-up wizard. I *love* it. I can get rid of the moving, transparent etc. bits _before_ I even log in for the first time, so that I never have to see them. I may see them for the first time during my talk!
What about the rest of you?
I shall use TDE 3.10.13.2 on Wheezy. I considered upgrading to 14, but if it goes wrong I haven't a lot of time to reinstall and reconfigure (because I am a bit over-stretched at the moment.) I need to use my own desktop because some of the things that I want to demonstrate I can't really set up anywhere else. E.g. KMail. I need mail!
I am open to contradiction on that. But I am so familiar with 3.10.13.2, and it is mostly going to be a live demonstration. I don't want to do too much "eerm...." "let me see ......" I am bound to do some!
Thanks.
Lisi
Am Donnerstag, 11. Juni 2015 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
I am shortly giving a talk on TDE. Any points that people particularly think I should mention? In fact, any pointers?
I love the light flexibility and the marvellous configurability. Its single biggest plus for me is the set-up wizard. I *love* it. I can get rid of the moving, transparent etc. bits _before_ I even log in for the first time, so that I never have to see them. I may see them for the first time during my talk!
What about the rest of you?
I shall use TDE 3.10.13.2 on Wheezy. I considered upgrading to 14, but if it goes wrong I haven't a lot of time to reinstall and reconfigure (because I am a bit over-stretched at the moment.) I need to use my own desktop because some of the things that I want to demonstrate I can't really set up anywhere else. E.g. KMail. I need mail!
I am open to contradiction on that. But I am so familiar with 3.10.13.2, and it is mostly going to be a live demonstration. I don't want to do too much "eerm...." "let me see ......" I am bound to do some!
Thanks.
Lisi
Hi Lisi!
"Configurability" is #1, too. Besides the kcontrol I would like to put "Configure Window Behaviour ..." from the titelbar menu on the list (I use it on small displays to force "terminator" to start maximized on the lowest layer)
kmail: maildir (one file per mail) makes it a perl.
kpdf: try the alternatives to value what you've got :-)
konqueror: with e.g. sftp://... + archive integration + "File Size View" ...
k3b :-)
Just my personal view :-)
Nik
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On 2015/06/12 04:05 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 11. Juni 2015 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
I am shortly giving a talk on TDE. Any points that people particularly think I should mention? In fact, any pointers?
I love the light flexibility and the marvellous configurability. Its single biggest plus for me is the set-up wizard. I *love* it. I can get rid of the moving, transparent etc. bits _before_ I even log in for the first time, so that I never have to see them. I may see them for the first time during my talk!
What about the rest of you?
I shall use TDE 3.10.13.2 on Wheezy. I considered upgrading to 14, but if it goes wrong I haven't a lot of time to reinstall and reconfigure (because I am a bit over-stretched at the moment.) I need to use my own desktop because some of the things that I want to demonstrate I can't really set up anywhere else. E.g. KMail. I need mail!
I am open to contradiction on that. But I am so familiar with 3.10.13.2, and it is mostly going to be a live demonstration. I don't want to do too much "eerm...." "let me see ......" I am bound to do some!
Thanks.
Lisi
Hi Lisi!
"Configurability" is #1, too. Besides the kcontrol I would like to put "Configure Window Behaviour ..." from the titelbar menu on the list (I use it on small displays to force "terminator" to start maximized on the lowest layer)
kmail: maildir (one file per mail) makes it a perl.
kpdf: try the alternatives to value what you've got :-)
konqueror: with e.g. sftp://... + archive integration + "File Size View" ...
k3b :-)
Just my personal view :-)
Nik
I would say: 1) first use the version you are comfortable with. If you use 3.5.13.2 (not 3.*10*.13.2 which does not exist), just mention a new version is available as well. 2) configurability, efficiency, productivity 3) being somehow light on resource requirement 4) interface stability over time
IMO this are somehow important points, at least for general purpose users I think.
Cheers Michele
On Friday 12 June 2015 07:55:47 Michele Calgaro wrote:
3.5.13.2 (not 3.*10*.13.2 which does not exist),
Yes, I'm sorry. I know that. My fingers don't. They have a life of their own. My brain deals in documents, my fingers in documants. (And independant and so on.) My brain knows how to spell you, the and that. My fingers almost always type oyu, teh and taht. :-(
I do try to pick up my more common errors (of which 3.10.13.2 is one), but as you see I don't always succeed. :-( (I typed oyu that time even while thinking about it.)
Lisi
On Thursday 11 June 2015 08:57:46 am Lisi Reisz wrote:
I am shortly giving a talk on TDE. Any points that people particularly think I should mention? In fact, any pointers?
I love the light flexibility and the marvellous configurability. Its single biggest plus for me is the set-up wizard. I *love* it. I can get rid of the moving, transparent etc. bits _before_ I even log in for the first time, so that I never have to see them. I may see them for the first time during my talk!
What about the rest of you?
snip
Thanks.
Lisi
What keeps me using TDE is tdepim, (best of breed imho) the calendar (reminder popups), notes, mail & contacs are my main modules.
Lighweight DE, looks & acts the same year after year, minimal training costs.
Freindly & helpful listserve.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 05:57:46PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
I am shortly giving a talk on TDE. Any points that people particularly think I should mention? In fact, any pointers?
I am actually still using a version of Linux that is several years old, with KDE 3.5.10. But when I update, I will switch to TDE.
For me, the most important advantage of TDE over KDE4 is the multiple virtual desktops. I use all 20 of them, for separated activities like Mail, Music, My Website, etc. In each one I have multiple konsoles with mc running in them pointed to directories specific to the activity, Firefox pages, and other program windows. The great advantage is that the screen and taskbar only show the programs in each particular virtual desktop, so they are much less cluttered. I can leave the programs running and visible all the time, since they take little RAM, and no CPU cycles, when I'm not using them.
But when I want to do something, like listen to a tune, I just click the Music button in the little desktop-pager (switcher) applet that's in the panel at the bottom of all the desktops, and I'm instantly in the Music desktop with several ways of selecting what I want, already set up.
This is a wonderful facility for making the computer an extension of my mind!
KDE4 has sabotaged it, because the desktop names are not visible in the pager applet. They are obscured by outlines of all the windows in each desktop, and these cannot be removed.
Also I don't like the way KDE4 does things like adjusting the size of the panels. And I never figured out what the stupid "cashews" do. They have changed things just for the sake of changing them, and made them worse, not better.
The main reason I like TDE so much is the incredible speed on old hardware. Also, of all the fast, light desktops, TDE is the only one I consider user friendly.
Thanks,
Elcaset
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:19 AM, Mark S Bilk mark@cosmicpenguin.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 05:57:46PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
I am shortly giving a talk on TDE. Any points that people particularly
think
I should mention? In fact, any pointers?
I am actually still using a version of Linux that is several years old, with KDE 3.5.10. But when I update, I will switch to TDE.
For me, the most important advantage of TDE over KDE4 is the multiple virtual desktops. I use all 20 of them, for separated activities like Mail, Music, My Website, etc. In each one I have multiple konsoles with mc running in them pointed to directories specific to the activity, Firefox pages, and other program windows. The great advantage is that the screen and taskbar only show the programs in each particular virtual desktop, so they are much less cluttered. I can leave the programs running and visible all the time, since they take little RAM, and no CPU cycles, when I'm not using them.
But when I want to do something, like listen to a tune, I just click the Music button in the little desktop-pager (switcher) applet that's in the panel at the bottom of all the desktops, and I'm instantly in the Music desktop with several ways of selecting what I want, already set up.
This is a wonderful facility for making the computer an extension of my mind!
KDE4 has sabotaged it, because the desktop names are not visible in the pager applet. They are obscured by outlines of all the windows in each desktop, and these cannot be removed.
Also I don't like the way KDE4 does things like adjusting the size of the panels. And I never figured out what the stupid "cashews" do. They have changed things just for the sake of changing them, and made them worse, not better.
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On Thursday 11 June 2015 17:57:46 Lisi Reisz wrote:
I am shortly giving a talk on TDE. Any points that people particularly think I should mention? In fact, any pointers?
Thank you very much to all who have replied so far! I am known for being a strong proponent of TDE, which is why I have been asked to do this, and I want to do it justice.
We all use such different aspects of it! What was that I said about its being flexible?? :-)
It is a tool. A great tool. It helps, instead of getting in the way. And as Nik said it has such wonderful applications.
Amarok is still a front runner, and as for K3b, which Nik mentioned, on the day I switched full-time to Linux, K3b was the main reason. I was dual booting at the time, and burning a fair number of CDs. I got fed up with rebooting in order to use K3b instead of Nero, so I took a deep breath, and stayed in Linux.
Lisi
everything kde4 is no more :
* fast and user friendly * stable and mostly bug-free * pretty good configuration for most everything useful * will never use up al of your ram like kde4 * systemd-free * well maintained, good community * many power user useful features that disappeared from kde4( i cant live without konsole 3 features that disappeared from kde4).
I d also say that the trinity fork started after the first ( officialy stable / final ) kde4 release were complete disasters, full of bugs, crashes and user unfriendly choices ), that prooved the new kde team was nothing professional and had no respect for users, pushing as stable/final release some stuff that wasnt even worth an alpha version.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.reisz@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 11 June 2015 17:57:46 Lisi Reisz wrote:
I am shortly giving a talk on TDE. Any points that people particularly think I should mention? In fact, any pointers?
Thank you very much to all who have replied so far! I am known for being a strong proponent of TDE, which is why I have been asked to do this, and I want to do it justice.
We all use such different aspects of it! What was that I said about its being flexible?? :-)
It is a tool. A great tool. It helps, instead of getting in the way. And as Nik said it has such wonderful applications.
Amarok is still a front runner, and as for K3b, which Nik mentioned, on the day I switched full-time to Linux, K3b was the main reason. I was dual booting at the time, and burning a fair number of CDs. I got fed up with rebooting in order to use K3b instead of Nero, so I took a deep breath, and stayed in Linux.
Lisi
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