Because I now have a high-resolution widescreen monitor, I keep all of my working icons in vertical panels on the left and right sides of my display to maximize the amount of vertical space for windows. I like to have my Preview & Pager applet set to two columns for easy switching between desktops, and that makes me want to use a Large size panel, but that means that I'm running out of space for application icons. Is there any way to make my icons appear two-up, the way the ones in the System Tray do? In the attached screenshot, both the right (main) panel and left panel are Large size. As can be seen, when the left panel is set to Large size, there's no more room for application icons. If the icons in the left panel could be displayed the way the ones in the System Tray appear, that would be very helpful. N.B. I don't like to use desktop icons, and I don't like using shortcut keys for switching desktops.
Leslie
On 03/27/2019 07:39 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Is there any way to make my icons appear two-up, the way the ones in the System Tray do?
I've never tried it with a vertical panel, but the Quick Launcher applet might do it. In a horizontal panel, it will do multiple rows of small icons.
On 2019-03-27 22:25:24 Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 03/27/2019 07:39 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Is there any way to make my icons appear two-up, the way the ones in the System Tray do?
I've never tried it with a vertical panel, but the Quick Launcher applet might do it. In a horizontal panel, it will do multiple rows of small icons.
I will try that. Thank you.
Leslie
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
I will try that. Thank you.
I have the system bar horizontally and the additional bar vertically. in the additional bar I have only the open apps. I also had the issue as you do and did not find better solution then to make it tiny so that I see only the icon
On 2019-03-28 01:47:48 deloptes wrote:
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
I will try that. Thank you.
I have the system bar horizontally and the additional bar vertically. in the additional bar I have only the open apps. I also had the issue as you do and did not find better solution then to make it tiny so that I see only the icon
Using QuickLauncher is helpful; I can set its icon sizes so that I get a two-up display. One downside is that QuickLauncher doesn't recognize drag-n-drop operations, which is irritating. Also, I thought that I had set up two instances of QuickLauncher, one for the top of the column and one for the bottom, to simulate the way I had my icons set up before, but when I logged back into my desktop I see only one QuickLauncher at the bottom of the panel (but I may be misremembering the way it was set when I logged out the last time). So, it is somewhat of an improvement.
Leslie
On 04/05/2019 08:44 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
One downside is that QuickLauncher doesn't recognize drag-n-drop operations, which is irritating.
Right-click / Configure Quicklauncher, you'll see a check box for "Allow drag and drop".
On 2019-04-06 01:57:34 Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 04/05/2019 08:44 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
One downside is that QuickLauncher doesn't recognize drag-n-drop operations, which is irritating.
Right-click / Configure Quicklauncher, you'll see a check box for "Allow drag and drop".
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Thank you. (How did I miss that?)
Leslie
On 2019-04-06 01:57:34 Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 04/05/2019 08:44 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
One downside is that QuickLauncher doesn't recognize drag-n-drop operations, which is irritating.
Right-click / Configure Quicklauncher, you'll see a check box for "Allow drag and drop".
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I checked, and that option is turned on, but apparently it doesn't do what I'm looking for. With a regular application icon on the panel, e.g. Kate, I can drag a file from the file list in Konqueror and drop it there, and Kate will open and load that file/ similarly, I can drag/drop an image file on the Gimp icon. With an application icon in QuickLauncher, though, the file is just added to the launcher, it doesn't start the application. I'm not sure what use a data file is in QuickLauncher; that doesn't seem very useful to me. I have to open the application by clicking on its QuickLauncher icon, then drag the file to the open application (if it has a drop area; Gimp has a relatively small target for that. So that's a significant drawback to using QuickLauncher for me.
Leslie
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On 2019/04/09 04:51 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
in QuickLauncher, though, the file is just added to the launcher, it doesn't start the application.
IMO, it makes perfect sense. Quicklauncher is a quick way to launch applications by clicking on their icons rather than finding the application in the menu. Drag and drop for a quick launcher means you can drag an application to the QL and the application will be added to it.
Cheers Michele
On 2019-04-09 08:17:11 Michele Calgaro via trinity-users wrote:
On 2019/04/09 04:51 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
in QuickLauncher, though, the file is just added to the launcher, it doesn't start the application.
IMO, it makes perfect sense. Quicklauncher is a quick way to launch applications by clicking on their icons rather than finding the application in the menu. Drag and drop for a quick launcher means you can drag an application to the QL and the application will be added to it.
Cheers Michele
That is so. I was looking for a way to either add multiple panels on the right and/or left edges of my screen so that there would be more room for icons, to simulate the way that the system tray applet works. QuickLauncher does that, but I lose the drag 'n drop capability that plain application icons provide.
Leslie
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That is so. I was looking for a way to either add multiple panels on the right and/or left edges of my screen so that there would be more room for icons, to simulate the way that the system tray applet works. QuickLauncher does that, but I lose the drag 'n drop capability that plain application icons provide.
Hi Leslie, quicklauncher and taskbar are different things.
Taskbar shows the active applications and you can drop a document on it to open the doc in the already launched application. Quicklauncher is just a convenient way to start applications.
I think what you are looking for is a taskbar that displays icons only. This is possible. You can have more than one panel and more than one taskbar. You can also have individual settings for each taskbar, just make sure you switch from the "global" setting to a "local" settings when you edit the taskbar properties (there is a checkbox at the top of the property page for that).
Cheers Michele
On 2019-04-09 20:56:34 Michele Calgaro via trinity-users wrote:
That is so. I was looking for a way to either add multiple panels on the right and/or left edges of my screen so that there would be more room for icons, to simulate the way that the system tray applet works. QuickLauncher does that, but I lose the drag 'n drop capability that plain application icons provide.
Hi Leslie, quicklauncher and taskbar are different things.
Taskbar shows the active applications and you can drop a document on it to open the doc in the already launched application. Quicklauncher is just a convenient way to start applications.
I think what you are looking for is a taskbar that displays icons only. This is possible. You can have more than one panel and more than one taskbar. You can also have individual settings for each taskbar, just make sure you switch from the "global" setting to a "local" settings when you edit the taskbar properties (there is a checkbox at the top of the property page for that).
Cheers Michele
Notice from the name of this thread that I'm looking for a way to have two-up icons in vertical panels. Someone suggested that QuickLauncher could do that. It sort of does, but not quite. So the search goes on. Is there a way, for instance, using the Control Center's Panel configurator, to let me stack two panels at the left side of the display, set to Small, so that icons in both panels appear two-up (in other words, in pairs), the way the icons in the System tray do? Is there some other way to get that effect? QuickLauncher is one that almost works. Are there others?
Leslie
On Wednesday 10 April 2019 05.46:36 J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Notice from the name of this thread that I'm looking for a way to have two-up icons in vertical panels.
I've done some trials.
I have a "main panel" with application icons (not a "quick launcher", simply application icons from the "start" menu).
I can add a second panel and organize it the same.
I can stack the two panels on the left side of the desktop, side by side, so I have two rows of application icons, which to me looks "two-up". Is this not what you are looking for? (look at the screen capture)?
I must admit I'm very puzzled as to what the other types of panels are supposed to be/do.
I can add a so-called "universal" sidebar, but it seems you can add only folders and a few special apps to it (bookmarks, newsticker and so). I can have these two bars side by side (so sort of "two-up") but as I can't put anything useful in the "universal" bar...
As to the "Dock Application Bar", it's a complete mystery to me: I get a (very) large grey band, empty, un-resizable, and I don't seem to be able to add anything. It does not either work as a task bar. Anyone has an idea?
Thierry
On 2019-04-10 03:24:24 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Wednesday 10 April 2019 05.46:36 J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Notice from the name of this thread that I'm looking for a way to have two-up icons in vertical panels.
I've done some trials.
I have a "main panel" with application icons (not a "quick launcher", simply application icons from the "start" menu).
I can add a second panel and organize it the same.
I can stack the two panels on the left side of the desktop, side by side, so I have two rows of application icons, which to me looks "two-up". Is this not what you are looking for? (look at the screen capture)?
That is indeed what I'm looking for. When I tried to get that to work there were some problems (I can't remember what) that prompted me to open this thread. I will try it again and see what happens.
I must admit I'm very puzzled as to what the other types of panels are supposed to be/do.
I can add a so-called "universal" sidebar, but it seems you can add only folders and a few special apps to it (bookmarks, newsticker and so). I can have these two bars side by side (so sort of "two-up") but as I can't put anything useful in the "universal" bar...
As to the "Dock Application Bar", it's a complete mystery to me: I get a (very) large grey band, empty, un-resizable, and I don't seem to be able to add anything. It does not either work as a task bar. Anyone has an idea?
Thierry
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Notice from the name of this thread that I'm looking for a way to have two-up icons in vertical panels. Someone suggested that QuickLauncher could do that. It sort of does, but not quite. So the search goes on. Is there a way, for instance, using the Control Center's Panel configurator, to let me stack two panels at the left side of the display, set to Small, so that icons in both panels appear two-up (in other words, in pairs), the way the icons in the System tray do? Is there some other way to get that effect? QuickLauncher is one that almost works. Are there others?
Leslie
- From Thierry's email:
Leslie, quicklauncher can arrange icons in multiple columns (I use it like this), but those are not the icons of opened applications, so you can't drop a file there and have it opened in the corresponding application. Taskbar supports icon-only but currently they arrange top-down rather then left-right, resulting in a single column. Here you can drop a file and have it opened in the application, because when an icon is displayed in the taskbar, the application is already running.
I have a create an issue on TGW for a taskbar icon placement improvement. https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdebase/issues/31
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Regarding "Dock Application Bar", confirmed that it does not seems to do much and it was like this even in KDE 3.5.10.
TGW issue: https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdebase/issues/32
Cheers Michele
On 2019-04-10 07:58:01 Michele Calgaro via trinity-users wrote:
Notice from the name of this thread that I'm looking for a way to have two-up icons in vertical panels. Someone suggested that QuickLauncher could do that. It sort of does, but not quite. So the search goes on. Is there a way, for instance, using the Control Center's Panel configurator, to let me stack two panels at the left side of the display, set to Small, so that icons in both panels appear two-up (in other words, in pairs), the way the icons in the System tray do? Is there some other way to get that effect? QuickLauncher is one that almost works. Are there others?
Leslie
From Thierry's email:
Leslie, quicklauncher can arrange icons in multiple columns (I use it like this), but those are not the icons of opened applications, so you can't drop a file there and have it opened in the corresponding application. Taskbar supports icon-only but currently they arrange top-down rather then left-right, resulting in a single column. Here you can drop a file and have it opened in the application, because when an icon is displayed in the taskbar, the application is already running.
I can also drop files onto regular panel icons and they will start running and read those files. An example is any of the four icons under the TDE Menu icon in the snapshot attached. As a side note, why is the TDE logo icon not included in /opt/share/icons? Whenever I install TDE I have to copy the one I saved in my home filespace.
Leslie
I have a create an issue on TGW for a taskbar icon placement improvement. https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdebase/issues/31
From Thierry's email:
Regarding "Dock Application Bar", confirmed that it does not seems to do much and it was like this even in KDE 3.5.10.
TGW issue: https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdebase/issues/32
Cheers Michele
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On 2019/03/28 10:39 AM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Because I now have a high-resolution widescreen monitor, I keep all of my working icons in vertical panels on the left and right sides of my display to maximize the amount of vertical space for windows. I like to have my Preview & Pager applet set to two columns for easy switching between desktops, and that makes me want to use a Large size panel, but that means that I'm running out of space for application icons. Is there any way to make my icons appear two-up, the way the ones in the System Tray do? In the attached screenshot, both the right (main) panel and left panel are Large size. As can be seen, when the left panel is set to Large size, there's no more room for application icons. If the icons in the left panel could be displayed the way the ones in the System Tray appear, that would be very helpful. N.B. I don't like to use desktop icons, and I don't like using shortcut keys for switching desktops.
Leslie
Interesting. It is possible to show icons only and will probably go on two columns. The problem is that they fill up in vertical order instead of horizontal order, so it may not be exactly what you want.... Please fill in an issue report in TGW or a bug report on bugzilla for enhancement and we may take a look at this in future.
Cheers Michele
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