Dr. Nikolaus Klepp composed on 2019-02-10 00:58 (UTC+0100): Which Kmail, TDE's, or KDE5's? Which apps besides Kmail have small fonts? Are any of them using QT5, GTK3 or GTK4? Do any of these apps allow to choose font family and/or font size directly, rather than inheriting from DE settings? *buntu*fonts and *fonts*buntu* tend to render a physical size or two less than the majority of other families of identical nominal size. DPI typically plays a role in whether or not this happens or for which nominal sizes. http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Font/fonts-face-samplesM.html among others can be used to notice this. e.g.: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fnt/ubuntuAREsmaller120.jpg Shows Ubuntu Mono is same size as Inconsolata at 12pt, but larger at 10pt, yet it's smaller than most others whether at 10pt or 12pt. The differences are different at 96 DPI: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Fnt/ubuntuAREsmaller096.jpg Note in these images that the only font requested by the page that is not installed is Courier. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

Dr. Nikolaus Klepp composed on 2019-02-10 08:42 (UTC+0100): I think I'd need to see some contextual screenshots to understand, but from KMail it probably wouldn't tell me much, since I never use it. That was a confused request that even now I don't understand. :-p This is backwards from what I expect, though my expectations are limited by lack of familiarity with apps above mentioned and lyx. Most of my installations are lean, so no Gimp or LO. This box has Gimp 2.8 and LO 6.04. LO I use too little to know what to expect. Gimp's main menu bar text matches the OS. In the rest of Gimp, everything is tiny enough to cause headache and backache if used longer than very briefly. What I expect from TDE apps is QT3 behavior. I rarely use them though, except for Konq, KCalc and the tdecmshell utilities xserver and fonts. Firefox is my main non-QT yardstick. This is from openSUSE Tumbleweed & TDE: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/Fonts/monospace201902suse.jpg Note the UI text in 60.5 matches the (GTK2) 17.0 UI text that also matches Konq's and Konsole's. The same cannot be said of the content text however. This is from TDE 14.1 on Kubuntu 18.04 on same PC using the very same two firefox profiles: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/Fonts/ff60-gtk3-tinyUI-buntu1804.jpg Note here the mousetype UI in (GTK3) 60.5, much smaller than in Konq, Konsole & Firefox 17. I tried FF on Buster, but neither ESR52 nor ESR60 will run on it. ESR60 on Stretch & 14.0.6 behaves like Tubutu (GTK3 mousetype). know what that breaks :-) The breakage is too complicated for me to remember in detail. Not all the dumbing down to Chrome level appears in the Firefox UI. Some is in the browser engine, originally Gecko, recently switched to Quantum(?). Some of the Gecko browser code required to make fonts-face-samplesM.html work as it should has been purged. It never got put into Quantum. The notes at the bottom of that URL mention some of what's changed, but more has been lost since. One recent change comes from anti-fingerprinting policy, which prevents the page from reporting the UA string. I'm not sure when it hit, sometime after current ESR series, but whether it was in before 65 I don't know either. An older one is web browser specifications some years ago purged the ability to produce even a resemblance of accurate physical sizes on a display screen. The spec usurped the meanings of the physical sizes, including pt, cm, in & pica. Instead of pt meaning point, it means CSS px. IOW, px and pt are exactly the same thing in CSS used for display screens. That means unlike real point sizes, their equivalent px sizes do not vary with display density. Gecko was the last mainstream browser engine to do the purge. For several years it had a proprietary unit (mozmm) that could be used to create physical sizes, but no longer. So, my page only works close to or in fact as intended with Konq, or older Mozilla products that support mozmm, or really really really old other browsers, among which neither Chrome nor Chromium, but IE6, mostly yes. The purging of pt as a physical unit doesn't just show up in unexpected page text sizing. It also has affected optional themes, and some internal theming. Mix in a GTK3 problem[1][2] and HiDPI mutations, and you get a good definition of unpredictable. [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757142 Recent change breaks HiDPI setup based on calculated or forced DPI https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269274 UI text sizes no longer inherited from Linux system [2] https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1022830 GTK3 apps not honoring system-wide DPI settings nor KDE mouse cursor This bug's fix counters the GTK problem upstream created. I've not seen evidence any other distro has offered this solution. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

Anno domini 2019 Sun, 10 Feb 10:31:05 -0500 E. Liddell scripsit: I do not know what to say ... qt5ct fails because an environment variable QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME was not set ... wtf??? Ok, I set export QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0 export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME="qt5ct" and now lyx works as expected. If you wonder, the firse line is for VLC: without it, VLC has buttons as big as a football. That GUI mess is growing like cancer :-( Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

Solved the part of trackpoint acceleration today: Following https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration I was able to slow down that pesky acceleration. The loution is to put this line in ~/.xsessionrc: ( sleep 10s; xinput --set-prop 'TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint' 'libinput Accel Speed' -0.125 ) & While this solved my immediate problem it still does not tell why tcontrol settings are ignored :-/ Ni Anno domini 2019 Sun, 10 Feb 18:07:25 +0100 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp scripsit: -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...