aka the Dan Youngquist method:
Dan states in a recent email, that the way he installs TDE would be to install a MINIMAL XFCE installation and then install TDE
Somebody stated you could install XFCE or MATE and then install TDE.
What I have burned to a USB stick does not offer a minimal XFCE installation It only offers a full blown installation.. I think it's because Debian offers the mini iso version first, instead of the CD / DVD version first.
And also, what I have burnt to a USB stick automatically comes with drivers.
I accidentally downloaded the wrong Debian for my great aunts pc and it couldn't find the wireless card and I was like uh oh, and I had to go redownload Debian's ISO that had the drivers baked in to the ISO.
I found this page:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/
Would downloading the CD or DVD version offer me the minimal xfce installation?
Thanks, Chris
On Thursday 20 January 2022 09:18:12 am c. marlow wrote:
aka the Dan Youngquist method:
I found this page:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/
Would downloading the CD or DVD version offer me the minimal xfce installation?
Whow knows? That page sucks rat balls at explaining anything. Try this:
https://www.linuxtechi.com/how-to-install-debian-11-bullseye/
at the Software selection step make sure to un-check all desktop environments.
On Thursday 20 January 2022 09:03:43 am c. marlow wrote:
I am starting to wonder if I need to do the Dan Younquist method and nuke and pave AGAIN and do a MINIMAL XFCE install, and then install TDE again? Or do you think that i'm okay?
If it's working how you want, then you're okay ;)
If you want to nuke and pave AGAIN, personally I’d only install TDE, and not install any other desktop(s).
I’ve attached scripts that should help you do that from the root command line. Stick them on a USB and write down the manual mount command. In short:
- Install bullseye base (no desktops) - Boot into bullseye base - Mount USB with scripts - Run scripts S1 through S4 in order * - Reboot
* scripts aug and aud are included for convenience.
HTH, Michael
On Thu January 20 2022 07:18:12 c. marlow wrote:
Dan states in a recent email, that the way he installs TDE would be to install a MINIMAL XFCE installation and then install TDE
Somebody stated you could install XFCE or MATE and then install TDE.
You can go that route but if you don't need XFCE or MATE just install Debian without a desktop and then install TDE from the command line.
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Instr...
--Mike
On Thursday 20 of January 2022 17:42:40 Mike Bird wrote:
On Thu January 20 2022 07:18:12 c. marlow wrote:
Dan states in a recent email, that the way he installs TDE would be to install a MINIMAL XFCE installation and then install TDE
Somebody stated you could install XFCE or MATE and then install TDE.
You can go that route but if you don't need XFCE or MATE just install Debian without a desktop and then install TDE from the command line.
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_I nstructions
--Mike ____________________________________________________
Exactly as Mike says - you don't have to install any desktop environment. You can use any standard installation media (the best is netinstall or netboot because they are small), run the installation in "Expert" mode and in step to select tasks / packages for installation, select that you do not want to install any of the desktop environments. You get a bare system with a text console, where you then perform steps for TDE installation.
Cheers
On Thursday 20 January 2022 12:27:04 pm Slávek Banko wrote:
(the best is netinstall or netboot because they are small), run the installation in "Expert" mode and in step to select tasks / packages for installation, select that you do not want to install any of the desktop environments. You get a bare system with a text console, where you then perform steps for TDE installation.
I tried that with the netinstall of Deb I have burned right now.
I was able to select language, keyboard, time and date but after that... I never got to pick partitions or anything like that.
I will have to get a screenshot of my deb iso.
( stay tuned)
Chris
Here are the screenshots of my ISO and why I had no way to do a expert installation with no DE.
The pictures are numbered and attached in order.
Chris
On 1/20/22 7:18 AM, c. marlow wrote:
aka the Dan Youngquist method:
Dan states in a recent email, that the way he installs TDE would be to install a MINIMAL XFCE installation and then install TDE
I didn't say a minimal XFCE installation; I only said I usually install TDE after XFCE. I've installed TDE after LXDE and had no problems, but the last time was a few years ago, so something could've changed by now.
The last 4-5 years I've mostly been using MX Linux. Install, update, then install TDE per the instructions on the website. My goal is to get a smoothly working system as quickly and simply as possible, without having to mess around with multimedia, wireless drivers, etc.; MX does that very nicely. On old, slower machines I usually change to an Antix kernel because they're optimized for better performance on older hardware.
The only change I'd really like to make to the above procedure is to find a rolling release that will run TDE, and hopefully Debian based. But I haven't had much luck with that. I really don't like having to completely reinstall every few years.
c. marlow composed on 2022-01-20 09:18 (UTC-0600):
Would downloading the CD or DVD version offer me the minimal xfce installation?
It doesn't matter what CD or DVD you use of Debian or one of its bazillion derivatives if you append the following to the installation kernel's command line:
tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false
This gives you a truly minimal installation from which to add TDE and anything else you wish to cause un-minimalization.
On January 20, 2022 9:18:12 AM CST, "c. marlow" tde@cwm030.com wrote:
Dan states in a recent email, that the way he installs TDE would be to install a MINIMAL XFCE installation and then install TDE
Somebody stated you could install XFCE or MATE and then install TDE.
I don't understand why you would need another desktop environment before installing TDE. On every Debian / Devuan installation, I go through the net install without installing a desktop environment and then add the Trinity repos and keyring to install Trinity by itself. It's not hard to do even if you are not big on the CLI.
On 1/20/22 11:26 AM, Hunter Ellett via tde-users wrote:
I don't understand why you would need another desktop environment before installing TDE.
I do it for two reasons:
1. Sometimes it's handy to have another DE available for one reason or another, like to help debug a problem. And XFCE often makes it faster & easier to install printers.
2. It's the fastest, easiest way to end up with wireless & video drivers, multimedia, etc., installed and operating correctly without having to take a lot of time to do it all manually. I have yet to find a distro that has all that stuff, but no DE.
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