I've noticed that using Trusty Tahr with R14.0.2, I cannot get trinity to save the power management settings. It does create the directory "~/.trinity/share/config/tdedisplay/" directory, but it's empty. The directory can be erased, but Monitor & Display will recreate an empty directory. Happens on 2 machines. Dave
Dave wrote:
I've noticed that using Trusty Tahr with R14.0.2, I cannot get trinity to save the power management settings. It does create the directory "~/.trinity/share/config/tdedisplay/" directory, but it's empty. The directory can be erased, but Monitor & Display will recreate an empty directory. Happens on 2 machines. Dave
If you mean DPMS, I've noticed the same, but found out it depends on the DPMS option in xorg.conf. Can you check this on your side?
On Saturday 09 January 2016 02:33:32 deloptes wrote:
Dave wrote:
I've noticed that using Trusty Tahr with R14.0.2, I cannot get trinity to save the power management settings. It does create the directory "~/.trinity/share/config/tdedisplay/" directory, but it's empty. The directory can be erased, but Monitor & Display will recreate an empty directory. Happens on 2 machines. Dave
If you mean DPMS, I've noticed the same, but found out it depends on the DPMS option in xorg.conf. Can you check this on your side?
That I haven't checked. I have 2 machines with TDE R14.0.02+ on them, and the dpms settings work exactly as one would expect and the man page describes. After setting the dpms times once, then a simple, from a terminal screen xset -dpms shuts it off, and an xset +dpms re-enables it.
Remember, "xset dpms time time time", where time is in seconds, and the "xset +dpms or -dpms" are two separate operations.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Saturday 09 January 2016 08:37:20 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 09 January 2016 02:33:32 deloptes wrote:
If you mean DPMS, I've noticed the same, but found out it depends on the DPMS option in xorg.conf. Can you check this on your side?
That I haven't checked. I have 2 machines with TDE R14.0.02+ on them, and the dpms settings work exactly as one would expect and the man page describes. After setting the dpms times once, then a simple, from a terminal screen xset -dpms shuts it off, and an xset +dpms re-enables it.
Yes, Gene, but you have to do it _every_ _time_. This is tedious, and anyhow I sometimes forget.
The only workable permanent solution appears to be the xorg.conf one, but I was physically unable to test this last time I was trying. My present set-up is not going to be permanent, so I am leaving it alone and cursing when I forget. But once I have reinstalled Wheezy instead of Jessie, I shall write an xorg.conf in order to have this working.
Do you feel like sharing your xorg.conf please, "deloptes"? And if you do, could you copy me in with a private copy??
Emails from you via the TDE list don't reach me, and the list robot complains that I am bouncing things and threatens to kick me off the list. Emails you send to the Debian list reach me, so I don't know what is going on.
Lisi
On Saturday 09 January 2016 10:15:36 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 09 January 2016 08:37:20 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 09 January 2016 02:33:32 deloptes wrote:
If you mean DPMS, I've noticed the same, but found out it depends on the DPMS option in xorg.conf. Can you check this on your side?
That I haven't checked. I have 2 machines with TDE R14.0.02+ on them, and the dpms settings work exactly as one would expect and the man page describes. After setting the dpms times once, then a simple, from a terminal screen xset -dpms shuts it off, and an xset +dpms re-enables it.
Yes, Gene, but you have to do it _every_ _time_. This is tedious, and anyhow I sometimes forget.
The only workable permanent solution appears to be the xorg.conf one, but I was physically unable to test this last time I was trying. My present set-up is not going to be permanent, so I am leaving it alone and cursing when I forget. But once I have reinstalled Wheezy instead of Jessie, I shall write an xorg.conf in order to have this working.
Do you feel like sharing your xorg.conf please, "deloptes"? And if you do, could you copy me in with a private copy??
Emails from you via the TDE list don't reach me, and the list robot complains that I am bouncing things and threatens to kick me off the list. Emails you send to the Debian list reach me, so I don't know what is going on.
Lisi
I was going to insert it here Lisi, but I do not actually have one of those critters on this more or less wheezy system, sorry.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Saturday 09 January 2016 10:15:36 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 09 January 2016 08:37:20 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Saturday 09 January 2016 02:33:32 deloptes wrote:
If you mean DPMS, I've noticed the same, but found out it depends on the DPMS option in xorg.conf. Can you check this on your side?
That I haven't checked. I have 2 machines with TDE R14.0.02+ on them, and the dpms settings work exactly as one would expect and the man page describes. After setting the dpms times once, then a simple, from a terminal screen xset -dpms shuts it off, and an xset +dpms re-enables it.
Yes, Gene, but you have to do it _every_ _time_. This is tedious, and anyhow I sometimes forget.
I don't have to do it everytime. The monitor I am using on that machine is an older Samsung hidef tv that lost its tuner, so its a 2 couple seconds to come alive when I tap the spacebar.
The only reason I'd do an "xset -dpms" is if I had a long running LinuxCNC job on the machine, something like carving a pcb board, and didn't want the screen blanked, removing my ability to supervise that job several times during that job. And when its finally done, an "xset +dpms"ENTER is all it takes to restore normal blanking and power control.
The only workable permanent solution appears to be the xorg.conf one, but I was physically unable to test this last time I was trying. My present set-up is not going to be permanent, so I am leaving it alone and cursing when I forget. But once I have reinstalled Wheezy instead of Jessie, I shall write an xorg.conf in order to have this working.
Do you feel like sharing your xorg.conf please, "deloptes"? And if you do, could you copy me in with a private copy??
Emails from you via the TDE list don't reach me, and the list robot complains that I am bouncing things and threatens to kick me off the list. Emails you send to the Debian list reach me, so I don't know what is going on.
Lisi
I am sending through shentel.net for both this list and debian-user, and yes I get threatening messages from the both servers, which fusses when it gets a single bounce. But then the fine print says I am like only one bounce in the 80 it takes to forcibly unsubscribe me. 1 in 80? And its fussing?
Bring me a beer and we'll both cry in it while trying to find decent company adjectives to go with asinine. OTOH, I am not running either server. Which is quite likely a good thing in the Lazarus Long view. ;-)
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Hello,
First, happy new year 2016 to everybody !
Globally, the desktop computers with Linux don't save the battery so long than those with Windows, (and maybe than those with Mac Apple) : about 3 hours with Linux and more than 6 hours on Windows. (no test with Apple).
This is a (rare) serious inconvenience for Linux.
The kernel doesn't manage correctly the energy usage of the battery, compared to Windows.
Hope it will better in a few months, this is important for the travellers.
André
Am Samstag, 9. Januar 2016 schrieb andre_debian@numericable.fr:
Hello,
First, happy new year 2016 to everybody !
Globally, the desktop computers with Linux don't save the battery so long than those with Windows, (and maybe than those with Mac Apple) : about 3 hours with Linux and more than 6 hours on Windows. (no test with Apple).
This is a (rare) serious inconvenience for Linux.
The kernel doesn't manage correctly the energy usage of the battery, compared to Windows.
Hope it will better in a few months, this is important for the travellers.
André
Hi André
battery life was definitly better in squeeze with 2.6 kernel, got ~ 5 hours from my x61, now on devuan I get ~ 2 hours out of the same battery capacity.
Nik
On Saturday 09 January 2016 20:06:50 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Samstag, 9. Januar 2016 schrieb andre_debian@numericable.fr:
First, happy new year 2016 to everybody ! Globally, the desktop computers with Linux don't save the battery so long than those with Windows, (and maybe than those with Mac Apple) : about 3 hours with Linux and more than 6 hours on Windows. (no test with Apple). This is a (rare) serious inconvenience for Linux. The kernel doesn't manage correctly the energy usage of the battery, compared to Windows. Hope it will better in a few months, this is important for the travellers. André
battery life was definitly better in squeeze with 2.6 kernel, got ~ 5 hours from my x61, now on devuan I get ~ 2 hours out of the same battery capacity. Nik
My kernel version (Jessie) is 3.2.0-4-686-pae, and I don't observe a good energy usage of the battery, always very lower compared to Windows and my desktop is recent (april 2015).
André
andre_debian@numericable.fr wrote:
My kernel version (Jessie) is 3.2.0-4-686-pae, and I don't observe a good energy usage of the battery, always very lower compared to Windows and my desktop is recent (april 2015).
André
There are many things I do manually as I have not found a way to do it via gui or so.
CPU frequency GPU frequency Wireless power disks power display
basically everything that consumes power and this power consumption can be reduced. I have done this on 2 notebooks and 1 pc. Non of them was configured properly after installation.
I am not using windows on the recent notebook, so I don't know how long it lasts, but with wireless on with 10db power and display turned on most of the time (75%) it was holding for 5h. (Dell Latitude e5440) kernel was 4.1.6 last time I was on the road
example i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 acpi_backlight=vendor in command line
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/PowerSavingTweaks
regards
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