hi, I try to configure an hybrid system based on:
kubuntu-18.04 (without akonadi-kmail-mysqld) and install kmail+dependencies from triniy-desktop
I insert into:
$HOME/.trinity/share/config/kdeglobals
BrowserApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/firefox JpgApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/gwenview PdfApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/okular
but when I read an email (in trinity-kmail) only links to urls work fine
what is wrong?
thank you
sacarde@tiscali.it
On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 11:40:00AM +0200, sacarde wrote:
hi, I try to configure an hybrid system based on:
kubuntu-18.04 (without akonadi-kmail-mysqld) and install kmail+dependencies from triniy-desktop
I insert into:
$HOME/.trinity/share/config/kdeglobals
BrowserApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/firefox JpgApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/gwenview PdfApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/okular
but when I read an email (in trinity-kmail) only links to urls work fine
What do you mean, "only links to urls work fine"?
What other sort of links are there?
What happens to the ones that don't work fine?
What do you expect them to do?
only if I click over url firefox starts and open the site
If I click over .pdf or .jpg attachments it ask how open them
thanks
sacarde@tiscali.it
On Monday 09 August 2021 15:28:06 Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, Aug 09, 2021 at 11:40:00AM +0200, sacarde wrote:
hi, I try to configure an hybrid system based on:
kubuntu-18.04 (without akonadi-kmail-mysqld) and install kmail+dependencies from triniy-desktop
I insert into:
$HOME/.trinity/share/config/kdeglobals
BrowserApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/firefox JpgApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/gwenview PdfApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/okular
but when I read an email (in trinity-kmail) only links to urls work fine
What do you mean, "only links to urls work fine"?
What other sort of links are there?
What happens to the ones that don't work fine?
What do you expect them to do?
said sacarde:
| only if I click over url firefox starts and open the site | | If I click over .pdf or .jpg attachments it ask how open them
You have a set of TDE configurations. You probably have a set of Gnome configurations. And if you're going to run KDE stuff, you need KDE configurations. In this case, it appears you haven't set default applications for KDE. If you have latter-day KDE installed, the command is systemsettings5. -- dep
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yes, I have installed plasma-kde, and applications set I have:
browser: /usr/bin/firefox mail: /opt/trinity/bin/kmail
but if I click over .pdf or .jpg attachments in mail it reply
https://i.imgur.com/B3uAQZN.png
may be I have to installed full trinity-desktop?
thanks
sacarde@tiscali.it
On Monday 09 August 2021 17:27:37 dep wrote:
said sacarde: | only if I click over url firefox starts and open the site | | If I click over .pdf or .jpg attachments it ask how open them
You have a set of TDE configurations. You probably have a set of Gnome configurations. And if you're going to run KDE stuff, you need KDE configurations. In this case, it appears you haven't set default applications for KDE. If you have latter-day KDE installed, the command is systemsettings5. -- dep
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said sacarde: | yes, I have installed plasma-kde, and applications set I have: | | browser: /usr/bin/firefox | mail: /opt/trinity/bin/kmail | | but if I click over .pdf or .jpg attachments in mail it reply | | https://i.imgur.com/B3uAQZN.png | | may be I have to installed full trinity-desktop?
You need to open the KDE -- not TDE -- system settings application. Navigate to "File Associations" and type in "jpg," then set the application you'd have open when you click on a .jpg in a KDE application. You'll notice from the list that you're not limited to choosing KDE applications. Likewise, type in "pdf" and choose the default application for that. -- dep
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but the problem is when I try to open pdf and jpg in kmail-trinity
for this I insert in: ./trinity/share/config/kdeglobals
BrowserApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/firefox JpgApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/gwenview PdfApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/okular
thanks
On Monday 09 August 2021 18:19:59 dep wrote:
said sacarde: | yes, I have installed plasma-kde, and applications set I have: | | browser: /usr/bin/firefox | mail: /opt/trinity/bin/kmail | | but if I click over .pdf or .jpg attachments in mail it reply | | https://i.imgur.com/B3uAQZN.png | | may be I have to installed full trinity-desktop?
You need to open the KDE -- not TDE -- system settings application. Navigate to "File Associations" and type in "jpg," then set the application you'd have open when you click on a .jpg in a KDE application. You'll notice from the list that you're not limited to choosing KDE applications. Likewise, type in "pdf" and choose the default application for that. -- dep
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said sacarde: | but the problem is when I try to open pdf and jpg in kmail-trinity | | | for this I insert in: ./trinity/share/config/kdeglobals | | BrowserApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/firefox | JpgApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/gwenview | PdfApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/okular
What happens if you click on a file of either of those types in Konqueror? Same problem?
In which case open kcontrol, the TDE configurator, and do what I described for current KDE applications:
Navigate to "File Associations" and type in "jpg," then set the application you'd have open when you click on a .jpg in a TDE application. You'll notice from the list that you're not limited to choosing TDE applications. Likewise, type in "pdf" and choose the default application for that. -- dep
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On Monday 09 August 2021 01:40:33 pm sacarde wrote:
but the problem is when I try to open pdf and jpg in kmail-trinity
for this I insert in: ./trinity/share/config/kdeglobals
BrowserApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/firefox JpgApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/gwenview PdfApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/okular
You aren't using TDE correct? What desktop are you using? Whatever it is, your question should be posted on their help list/forum.
said Michael:
| You aren't using TDE correct? What desktop are you using? Whatever it | is, your question should be posted on their help list/forum.
I could swear -- please correct me if I'm wrong -- that the subject of this thread is "hibrid system plasma+tde."
I could further swear -- again, if I'm error I'll happily stand corrected -- that the OP began:
"I try to configure an hybrid system based on:
"kubuntu-18.04 (without akonadi-kmail-mysqld) and install kmail+dependencies from triniy-desktop"
Now. Seems to me -- once more, my opinion could be incorrect -- that questions having to do with trinity desktop might well belong on the -- why, lookee there: TDE Users! -- list.
(I'd further mention, and I think I'm right in saying this, that one of the pleasures of this list is that it is remarkable free of internet coppery, such that we can for example debate the merits of various cables besed on their color, which I'm pretty sure is not a TDE-specific issue. Much of the internet shits first and asks directions to the toilet later, but this list is happily not among them.) -- dep
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On Monday 09 August 2021 02:26:47 pm dep wrote:
said Michael: | You aren't using TDE correct? What desktop are you using? Whatever it | is, your question should be posted on their help list/forum.
I could swear -- please correct me if I'm wrong -- that the subject of this thread is "hibrid system plasma+tde."
I could further swear -- again, if I'm error I'll happily stand corrected -- that the OP began:
"I try to configure an hybrid system based on:
"kubuntu-18.04 (without akonadi-kmail-mysqld) and install kmail+dependencies from triniy-desktop"
Now. Seems to me -- once more, my opinion could be incorrect -- that questions having to do with trinity desktop might well belong on the -- why, lookee there: TDE Users! -- list.
:) dep,
it says "install kmail+dependencies from triniy-desktop." "+dependencies from triniy-desktop" implies the person not in fact using TDE but whatever other desktop is default installed in kubuntu. Throw in the plasma reference and they are using KDE 4+?
So the question as the OP wrote it seems to translate, "How does a stand alone TDE application integrates with some other desktop?"
ymmv, Michael
Anno domini 2021 Mon, 9 Aug 15:45:22 -0500 Michael scripsit:
On Monday 09 August 2021 02:26:47 pm dep wrote:
said Michael: | You aren't using TDE correct? What desktop are you using? Whatever it | is, your question should be posted on their help list/forum.
I could swear -- please correct me if I'm wrong -- that the subject of this thread is "hibrid system plasma+tde."
I could further swear -- again, if I'm error I'll happily stand corrected -- that the OP began:
"I try to configure an hybrid system based on:
"kubuntu-18.04 (without akonadi-kmail-mysqld) and install kmail+dependencies from triniy-desktop"
Now. Seems to me -- once more, my opinion could be incorrect -- that questions having to do with trinity desktop might well belong on the -- why, lookee there: TDE Users! -- list.
:) dep,
it says "install kmail+dependencies from triniy-desktop." "+dependencies from triniy-desktop" implies the person not in fact using TDE but whatever other desktop is default installed in kubuntu. Throw in the plasma reference and they are using KDE 4+?
So the question as the OP wrote it seems to translate, "How does a stand alone TDE application integrates with some other desktop?"
It does quite well, when you set the environment correctly and start some daemons - I did it for FVWM :)
Nik
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said Michael:
| it says "install kmail+dependencies from triniy-desktop." | "+dependencies from triniy-desktop" implies the person not in fact using | TDE but whatever other desktop is default installed in kubuntu. Throw | in the plasma reference and they are using KDE 4+? | | So the question as the OP wrote it seems to translate, "How does a stand | alone TDE application integrates with some other desktop?"
Inasmuch as he was complaining as to the behavior of kmail-trinity -- how it does not open files in the applications he wants it to open in -- then it is a TDE concern.
I do not know your setup, but here, I need to set file associations and such separately depending on whether it's a TDE, KDE, or Gnome application -- I have some of all three running. For KMail, the file associations I have set must be set in KControl's file associations; likewise, they need to be set in the KDE configurator for those applications, and in Gnome for those.
So people who have problems with kmail-trinity would rightly come here, because here is the only place that would have the correct answer. -- dep
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On Monday 09 August 2021 19:33:11 dep wrote:
said Michael: | it says "install kmail+dependencies from triniy-desktop." | "+dependencies from triniy-desktop" implies the person not in fact using | TDE but whatever other desktop is default installed in kubuntu. Throw | in the plasma reference and they are using KDE 4+? | | So the question as the OP wrote it seems to translate, "How does a stand | alone TDE application integrates with some other desktop?"
Inasmuch as he was complaining as to the behavior of kmail-trinity -- how it does not open files in the applications he wants it to open in -- then it is a TDE concern.
I do not know your setup, but here, I need to set file associations and such separately depending on whether it's a TDE, KDE, or Gnome application -- I have some of all three running. For KMail, the file associations I have set must be set in KControl's file associations; likewise, they need to be set in the KDE configurator for those applications, and in Gnome for those.
So people who have problems with kmail-trinity would rightly come here, because here is the only place that would have the correct answer. -- dep
I think maybe that he, like a lot of us sometimes, did not read every word in every email in that thread, and gave undue weight to the words KDE, Plasma, and their related krap.
Or, it could be, he is a TDE purist: Thou shalt have no other desktops besides Trinity!
At some point in the future, I would like to become a member of this second group, because other desktops don't play nicely, and leftover garbage from every one of them have caused me problems, large and small. But it is easier for me install Devuan using the mate or xfce desktops.
Then, too, there are persons who actually *like* to try out other desktops, and (so I have heard) seem to think that KDE4/5 and Plasma and the Gnomes and such are actually "good"; which puzzles me, but I accept that they know what they like, even if they do like krap. It is not for me to judge them.
:-}
Bill
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
Or, it could be, he is a TDE purist: Thou shalt have no other desktops besides Trinity!
Indeed, why would you run other desktops? I personally run only TDE and have Gnome and KDE applications running as well.
Regarding default applications there is this here https://specifications.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/1.0.1/index.html
and if TDE is not complying to this, we should be working in this direction, which I can not say, because I do not use another desktop. However when I right click an attachment in KMail, I have the option to choose "Open with..." and then associate the MIME-type with specific TDE application.
Perhaps it is just a matter of time for everybody to comply to the Freedesktop specs, but remember that TDE existed before those specs were written and the others may implement slightly different versions of these specs.
when I login in plasma-kde, kcontrol is empy when I login in TDE kcontrol is populated
maybe this is solution ... to enter into TDE at login
thank you
sacarde@tiscali.it
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 08:30:32 deloptes wrote:
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
Or, it could be, he is a TDE purist: Thou shalt have no other desktops besides Trinity!
Indeed, why would you run other desktops? I personally run only TDE and have Gnome and KDE applications running as well.
Regarding default applications there is this here https://specifications.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/1.0.1/index.html
and if TDE is not complying to this, we should be working in this direction, which I can not say, because I do not use another desktop. However when I right click an attachment in KMail, I have the option to choose "Open with..." and then associate the MIME-type with specific TDE application.
Perhaps it is just a matter of time for everybody to comply to the Freedesktop specs, but remember that TDE existed before those specs were written and the others may implement slightly different versions of these specs.
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Hi!
Anno domini 2021 Tue, 10 Aug 09:03:29 +0200 sacarde scripsit:
when I login in plasma-kde, kcontrol is empy when I login in TDE kcontrol is populated
maybe this is solution ... to enter into TDE at login
This is what I run on FVWM. Open a terminal in your DE, execute:
export TDE_FULL_SESSION=false export TDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity export TDEROOTHOME=/root/.trinity export TDE_SESSION_UID=$UID export TDE_MULTIHEAD=false export TDEDIR=/opt/trinity export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/opt/trinity/etc/xdg export XDG_DATA_DIRS=/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share tdeinit_shutdown tdeinit
Now you should be able to use any TDE application as if you had a fill TDE running. If it works, put these lines in your .xsessionrc (if your DE follws the standard this will be executed on sesion setup). You might want to check if $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and $XDG_DATA_DIRS are set already. If they are, you have to adjust the lines, e.g.
export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=$XDG_CONFIG_DIRS:/opt/trinity/etc/xdg export XDG_DATA_DIRS=$XDG_DATA_DIRS:/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
Nik
thank you
sacarde@tiscali.it
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 08:30:32 deloptes wrote:
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
Or, it could be, he is a TDE purist: Thou shalt have no other desktops besides Trinity!
Indeed, why would you run other desktops? I personally run only TDE and have Gnome and KDE applications running as well.
Regarding default applications there is this here https://specifications.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/1.0.1/index.html
and if TDE is not complying to this, we should be working in this direction, which I can not say, because I do not use another desktop. However when I right click an attachment in KMail, I have the option to choose "Open with..." and then associate the MIME-type with specific TDE application.
Perhaps it is just a matter of time for everybody to comply to the Freedesktop specs, but remember that TDE existed before those specs were written and the others may implement slightly different versions of these specs.
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when I run that script I have:
[tdeinit wrapper] Warning: socket connection failed: : Connection refused [tdeinit wrapper] Error: Can't contact tdeinit! [2021/08/10 11:07:43.508] --------------------------------- [dcopserver] It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure that it is not already running, remove /home/sacarde/.DCOPserver_sacarde-desktop__0 and start dcopserver again. --------------------------------- [2021/08/10 11:07:43.512] WARNING: [tdelauncher] Waiting for already running tdelauncher to exit. [2021/08/10 11:07:44.512] WARNING: [tdelauncher] Waiting for already running tdelauncher to exit. [2021/08/10 11:07:45.512] WARNING: [tdelauncher] Another instance of tdelauncher is already running! [tdeinit] Communication error with launcher. Exiting!
thanks sacarde@tiscali.it
p.s. I dont have .xsessionrc
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 09:28:17 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Anno domini 2021 Tue, 10 Aug 09:03:29 +0200
sacarde scripsit:
when I login in plasma-kde, kcontrol is empy when I login in TDE kcontrol is populated
maybe this is solution ... to enter into TDE at login
This is what I run on FVWM. Open a terminal in your DE, execute:
export TDE_FULL_SESSION=false export TDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity export TDEROOTHOME=/root/.trinity export TDE_SESSION_UID=$UID export TDE_MULTIHEAD=false export TDEDIR=/opt/trinity export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/opt/trinity/etc/xdg export XDG_DATA_DIRS=/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share tdeinit_shutdown tdeinit
Now you should be able to use any TDE application as if you had a fill TDE running. If it works, put these lines in your .xsessionrc (if your DE follws the standard this will be executed on sesion setup). You might want to check if $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and $XDG_DATA_DIRS are set already. If they are, you have to adjust the lines, e.g.
export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=$XDG_CONFIG_DIRS:/opt/trinity/etc/xdg export XDG_DATA_DIRS=$XDG_DATA_DIRS:/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
Nik
thank you
sacarde@tiscali.it
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 08:30:32 deloptes wrote:
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
Or, it could be, he is a TDE purist: Thou shalt have no other desktops besides Trinity!
Indeed, why would you run other desktops? I personally run only TDE and have Gnome and KDE applications running as well.
Regarding default applications there is this here https://specifications.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/1.0.1/index.html
and if TDE is not complying to this, we should be working in this direction, which I can not say, because I do not use another desktop. However when I right click an attachment in KMail, I have the option to choose "Open with..." and then associate the MIME-type with specific TDE application.
Perhaps it is just a matter of time for everybody to comply to the Freedesktop specs, but remember that TDE existed before those specs were written and the others may implement slightly different versions of these specs.
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Anno domini 2021 Tue, 10 Aug 11:10:32 +0200 sacarde scripsit:
when I run that script I have:
[tdeinit wrapper] Warning: socket connection failed: : Connection refused [tdeinit wrapper] Error: Can't contact tdeinit! [2021/08/10 11:07:43.508] --------------------------------- [dcopserver] It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure that it is not already running, remove /home/sacarde/.DCOPserver_sacarde-desktop__0 and start dcopserver again.
[2021/08/10 11:07:43.512] WARNING: [tdelauncher] Waiting for already running tdelauncher to exit. [2021/08/10 11:07:44.512] WARNING: [tdelauncher] Waiting for already running tdelauncher to exit. [2021/08/10 11:07:45.512] WARNING: [tdelauncher] Another instance of tdelauncher is already running! [tdeinit] Communication error with launcher. Exiting!
Is this when you run "tdeinit_shutdown" or "tdeinit" ?
Nik
thanks sacarde@tiscali.it
p.s. I dont have .xsessionrc
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 09:28:17 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Anno domini 2021 Tue, 10 Aug 09:03:29 +0200
sacarde scripsit:
when I login in plasma-kde, kcontrol is empy when I login in TDE kcontrol is populated
maybe this is solution ... to enter into TDE at login
This is what I run on FVWM. Open a terminal in your DE, execute:
export TDE_FULL_SESSION=false export TDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity export TDEROOTHOME=/root/.trinity export TDE_SESSION_UID=$UID export TDE_MULTIHEAD=false export TDEDIR=/opt/trinity export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/opt/trinity/etc/xdg export XDG_DATA_DIRS=/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share tdeinit_shutdown tdeinit
Now you should be able to use any TDE application as if you had a fill TDE running. If it works, put these lines in your .xsessionrc (if your DE follws the standard this will be executed on sesion setup). You might want to check if $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and $XDG_DATA_DIRS are set already. If they are, you have to adjust the lines, e.g.
export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=$XDG_CONFIG_DIRS:/opt/trinity/etc/xdg export XDG_DATA_DIRS=$XDG_DATA_DIRS:/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share
Nik
thank you
sacarde@tiscali.it
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 08:30:32 deloptes wrote:
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
Or, it could be, he is a TDE purist: Thou shalt have no other desktops besides Trinity!
Indeed, why would you run other desktops? I personally run only TDE and have Gnome and KDE applications running as well.
Regarding default applications there is this here https://specifications.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/1.0.1/index.html
and if TDE is not complying to this, we should be working in this direction, which I can not say, because I do not use another desktop. However when I right click an attachment in KMail, I have the option to choose "Open with..." and then associate the MIME-type with specific TDE application.
Perhaps it is just a matter of time for everybody to comply to the Freedesktop specs, but remember that TDE existed before those specs were written and the others may implement slightly different versions of these specs.
tde-users mailing list -- users@trinitydesktop.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@trinitydesktop.org Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinityd eskt op.org
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tdeinit
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 11:14:55 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2021 Tue, 10 Aug 11:10:32 +0200
sacarde scripsit:
when I run that script I have:
[tdeinit wrapper] Warning: socket connection failed: : Connection refused [tdeinit wrapper] Error: Can't contact tdeinit! [2021/08/10 11:07:43.508] --------------------------------- [dcopserver] It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure that it is not already running, remove /home/sacarde/.DCOPserver_sacarde-desktop__0 and start dcopserver again.
[2021/08/10 11:07:43.512] WARNING: [tdelauncher] Waiting for already running tdelauncher to exit. [2021/08/10 11:07:44.512] WARNING: [tdelauncher] Waiting for already running tdelauncher to exit. [2021/08/10 11:07:45.512] WARNING: [tdelauncher] Another instance of tdelauncher is already running! [tdeinit] Communication error with launcher. Exiting!
Is this when you run "tdeinit_shutdown" or "tdeinit" ?
Nik
thanks sacarde@tiscali.it
p.s. I dont have .xsessionrc
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 09:28:17 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Anno domini 2021 Tue, 10 Aug 09:03:29 +0200
sacarde scripsit:
when I login in plasma-kde, kcontrol is empy when I login in TDE kcontrol is populated
maybe this is solution ... to enter into TDE at login
This is what I run on FVWM. Open a terminal in your DE, execute:
export TDE_FULL_SESSION=false export TDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity export TDEROOTHOME=/root/.trinity export TDE_SESSION_UID=$UID export TDE_MULTIHEAD=false export TDEDIR=/opt/trinity export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/opt/trinity/etc/xdg export XDG_DATA_DIRS=/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share tdeinit_shutdown tdeinit
Now you should be able to use any TDE application as if you had a fill TDE running. If it works, put these lines in your .xsessionrc (if your DE follws the standard this will be executed on sesion setup). You might want to check if $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and $XDG_DATA_DIRS are set already. If they are, you have to adjust the lines, e.g.
export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=$XDG_CONFIG_DIRS:/opt/trinity/etc/xdg export XDG_DATA_DIRS=$XDG_DATA_DIRS:/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/s hare
Nik
thank you
sacarde@tiscali.it
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 08:30:32 deloptes wrote:
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
Or, it could be, he is a TDE purist: Thou shalt have no other desktops besides Trinity!
Indeed, why would you run other desktops? I personally run only TDE and have Gnome and KDE applications running as well.
Regarding default applications there is this here https://specifications.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/1.0.1/index.h tml
and if TDE is not complying to this, we should be working in this direction, which I can not say, because I do not use another desktop. However when I right click an attachment in KMail, I have the option to choose "Open with..." and then associate the MIME-type with specific TDE application.
Perhaps it is just a matter of time for everybody to comply to the Freedesktop specs, but remember that TDE existed before those specs were written and the others may implement slightly different versions of these specs.
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Anno domini 2021 Tue, 10 Aug 11:23:22 +0200 sacarde scripsit:
tdeinit
Please reboot, start with a clean sesson and try again. Don't start any TDE program before "tdeinit". Then try "kcontrol" - it should be populated.
If you get the same errors on "tdeinit", try to kill "tdelauncher": $ killall tdelauncher $ tdeinit $ kcontrol
@ .xsessionrc: you'll have to create it.
Nik
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 11:14:55 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2021 Tue, 10 Aug 11:10:32 +0200
sacarde scripsit:
when I run that script I have:
[tdeinit wrapper] Warning: socket connection failed: : Connection refused [tdeinit wrapper] Error: Can't contact tdeinit! [2021/08/10 11:07:43.508] --------------------------------- [dcopserver] It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure that it is not already running, remove /home/sacarde/.DCOPserver_sacarde-desktop__0 and start dcopserver again.
[2021/08/10 11:07:43.512] WARNING: [tdelauncher] Waiting for already running tdelauncher to exit. [2021/08/10 11:07:44.512] WARNING: [tdelauncher] Waiting for already running tdelauncher to exit. [2021/08/10 11:07:45.512] WARNING: [tdelauncher] Another instance of tdelauncher is already running! [tdeinit] Communication error with launcher. Exiting!
Is this when you run "tdeinit_shutdown" or "tdeinit" ?
Nik
thanks sacarde@tiscali.it
p.s. I dont have .xsessionrc
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 09:28:17 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Anno domini 2021 Tue, 10 Aug 09:03:29 +0200
sacarde scripsit:
when I login in plasma-kde, kcontrol is empy when I login in TDE kcontrol is populated
maybe this is solution ... to enter into TDE at login
This is what I run on FVWM. Open a terminal in your DE, execute:
export TDE_FULL_SESSION=false export TDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity export TDEROOTHOME=/root/.trinity export TDE_SESSION_UID=$UID export TDE_MULTIHEAD=false export TDEDIR=/opt/trinity export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/opt/trinity/etc/xdg export XDG_DATA_DIRS=/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share tdeinit_shutdown tdeinit
Now you should be able to use any TDE application as if you had a fill TDE running. If it works, put these lines in your .xsessionrc (if your DE follws the standard this will be executed on sesion setup). You might want to check if $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and $XDG_DATA_DIRS are set already. If they are, you have to adjust the lines, e.g.
export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=$XDG_CONFIG_DIRS:/opt/trinity/etc/xdg export XDG_DATA_DIRS=$XDG_DATA_DIRS:/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/s hare
Nik
thank you
sacarde@tiscali.it
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 08:30:32 deloptes wrote:
William Morder via tde-users wrote: > Or, it could be, he is a TDE purist: Thou shalt have no other > desktops besides Trinity!
Indeed, why would you run other desktops? I personally run only TDE and have Gnome and KDE applications running as well.
Regarding default applications there is this here https://specifications.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/1.0.1/index.h tml
and if TDE is not complying to this, we should be working in this direction, which I can not say, because I do not use another desktop. However when I right click an attachment in KMail, I have the option to choose "Open with..." and then associate the MIME-type with specific TDE application.
Perhaps it is just a matter of time for everybody to comply to the Freedesktop specs, but remember that TDE existed before those specs were written and the others may implement slightly different versions of these specs.
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oh!!
I reboot system and login into plasma
I execute your commands without errors, ... now I can view full "kcontrol" and "kmail" reply correct to links, pdf and jpg
thank you very very much
sacarde@tiscali.it
Please reboot, start with a clean sesson and try again. Don't start any TDE program before "tdeinit". Then try "kcontrol" - it should be populated.
If you get the same errors on "tdeinit", try to kill "tdelauncher": $ killall tdelauncher $ tdeinit $ kcontrol
@ .xsessionrc: you'll have to create it.
Nik
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 11:14:55 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2021 Tue, 10 Aug 11:10:32 +0200
sacarde scripsit:
when I run that script I have:
[tdeinit wrapper] Warning: socket connection failed: : Connection refused [tdeinit wrapper] Error: Can't contact tdeinit! [2021/08/10 11:07:43.508] --------------------------------- [dcopserver] It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure that it is not already running, remove /home/sacarde/.DCOPserver_sacarde-desktop__0 and start dcopserver again.
[2021/08/10 11:07:43.512] WARNING: [tdelauncher] Waiting for already running tdelauncher to exit. [2021/08/10 11:07:44.512] WARNING: [tdelauncher] Waiting for already running tdelauncher to exit. [2021/08/10 11:07:45.512] WARNING: [tdelauncher] Another instance of tdelauncher is already running! [tdeinit] Communication error with launcher. Exiting!
Is this when you run "tdeinit_shutdown" or "tdeinit" ?
Nik
thanks sacarde@tiscali.it
p.s. I dont have .xsessionrc
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 09:28:17 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Anno domini 2021 Tue, 10 Aug 09:03:29 +0200
sacarde scripsit:
when I login in plasma-kde, kcontrol is empy when I login in TDE kcontrol is populated
maybe this is solution ... to enter into TDE at login
This is what I run on FVWM. Open a terminal in your DE, execute:
export TDE_FULL_SESSION=false export TDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity export TDEROOTHOME=/root/.trinity export TDE_SESSION_UID=$UID export TDE_MULTIHEAD=false export TDEDIR=/opt/trinity export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/opt/trinity/etc/xdg export XDG_DATA_DIRS=/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share tdeinit_shutdown tdeinit
Now you should be able to use any TDE application as if you had a fill TDE running. If it works, put these lines in your .xsessionrc (if your DE follws the standard this will be executed on sesion setup). You might want to check if $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and $XDG_DATA_DIRS are set already. If they are, you have to adjust the lines, e.g.
export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=$XDG_CONFIG_DIRS:/opt/trinity/etc/xdg export XDG_DATA_DIRS=$XDG_DATA_DIRS:/opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/u sr/s hare
Nik
thank you
sacarde@tiscali.it
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 08:30:32 deloptes wrote: > William Morder via tde-users wrote: > > Or, it could be, he is a TDE purist: Thou shalt have no other > > desktops besides Trinity! > > Indeed, why would you run other desktops? I personally run only > TDE and have Gnome and KDE applications running as well. > > Regarding default applications there is this here > https://specifications.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/1.0.1/ind >ex.h tml > > and if TDE is not complying to this, we should be working in > this direction, which I can not say, because I do not use > another desktop. However when I right click an attachment in > KMail, I have the option to choose "Open with..." and then > associate the MIME-type with specific TDE application. > > Perhaps it is just a matter of time for everybody to comply to > the Freedesktop specs, but remember that TDE existed before > those specs were written and the others may implement slightly > different versions of these specs. > > ____________________________________________________ > tde-users mailing list -- users@trinitydesktop.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@trinitydesktop.org > Web mail archive available at > https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@ >trin ityd eskt op.org
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said sacarde: | oh!! | | I reboot system and login into plasma | | I execute your commands without errors, | ... now I can view full "kcontrol" and "kmail" reply correct to links, | pdf and jpg
Out of curiosity, why would you run TDE applications under Plasma rather than the other way around?
Here, I have to use some later KDE applications because they include features not in existence when their TDE analogues were effectively feature frozen -- digiKam, Gwenview, KDenLive. But on the one machine where I have current KDE installed I've found no advantage to KDE and in fact considerable complication with no corresponding benefit. So I am genuinely curious as to the rationale for choosing the Plasma desktop with TDE applications over the other way around.
(The reason I have Plasma running on one machine is that it's a special case, a GPD Pocket, which despite many days of effort -- memorialized in the archives of this list -- failed to run TDE reliably. I suspect but do not know that it was a touchscreen issue.) -- dep
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I have tried kubuntu-18.04 original, but akonadi tasks and kmail task and mysqld tasks use 100% of cpu, and writes too much to the disk
only for these reasons
sacarde
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 16:33:19 dep wrote:
said sacarde: | oh!! | | I reboot system and login into plasma | | I execute your commands without errors, | ... now I can view full "kcontrol" and "kmail" reply correct to links, | pdf and jpg
Out of curiosity, why would you run TDE applications under Plasma rather than the other way around?
Here, I have to use some later KDE applications because they include features not in existence when their TDE analogues were effectively feature frozen -- digiKam, Gwenview, KDenLive. But on the one machine where I have current KDE installed I've found no advantage to KDE and in fact considerable complication with no corresponding benefit. So I am genuinely curious as to the rationale for choosing the Plasma desktop with TDE applications over the other way around.
(The reason I have Plasma running on one machine is that it's a special case, a GPD Pocket, which despite many days of effort -- memorialized in the archives of this list -- failed to run TDE reliably. I suspect but do not know that it was a touchscreen issue.) -- dep
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Anno domini 2021 Tue, 10 Aug 16:52:18 +0200 sacarde scripsit:
I have tried kubuntu-18.04 original, but akonadi tasks and kmail task and mysqld tasks use 100% of cpu, and writes too much to the disk
akonadi is one of the apocalyptic riders :)
Nik
only for these reasons
sacarde
On Tuesday 10 August 2021 16:33:19 dep wrote:
said sacarde: | oh!! | | I reboot system and login into plasma | | I execute your commands without errors, | ... now I can view full "kcontrol" and "kmail" reply correct to links, | pdf and jpg
Out of curiosity, why would you run TDE applications under Plasma rather than the other way around?
Here, I have to use some later KDE applications because they include features not in existence when their TDE analogues were effectively feature frozen -- digiKam, Gwenview, KDenLive. But on the one machine where I have current KDE installed I've found no advantage to KDE and in fact considerable complication with no corresponding benefit. So I am genuinely curious as to the rationale for choosing the Plasma desktop with TDE applications over the other way around.
(The reason I have Plasma running on one machine is that it's a special case, a GPD Pocket, which despite many days of effort -- memorialized in the archives of this list -- failed to run TDE reliably. I suspect but do not know that it was a touchscreen issue.) -- dep
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said sacarde:
| I have tried kubuntu-18.04 original, but akonadi tasks and kmail task | and mysqld tasks use 100% of cpu, and writes too much to the disk | | only for these reasons
Which seem like good reasons for running TDE. Why Plasma? -- dep
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I change my old PC where I have run kde3.* and later kde 4.* but never tried a modern kde (for cpu power reasons) but in my new PC I can run everythings...
sacarde
Which seem like good reasons for running TDE. Why Plasma?
dep
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said sacarde:
| I change my old PC where I have run kde3.* and later kde 4.* | but never tried a modern kde (for cpu power reasons) | but in my new PC I can run everythings...
And now that you've tried it, you can nuke it and use TDE and be happy! If you need and KDE (or Gnome) applications, you can install and use them. -- dep
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On Monday 09 August 2021 23:30:32 deloptes wrote:
William Morder via tde-users wrote:
Or, it could be, he is a TDE purist: Thou shalt have no other desktops besides Trinity!
Indeed, why would you run other desktops? I personally run only TDE and have Gnome and KDE applications running as well.
I use xfce or mate when I am installing Devuan; but after I get TDE packages installed, then I try to purge everything that is non-TDE. Only sometimes do I inadvertently install gnustep or gnome, because I want temporarily want some package that somehow requires it. Then I purge it again.
Regarding default applications there is this here https://specifications.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/1.0.1/index.html
and if TDE is not complying to this, we should be working in this direction, which I can not say, because I do not use another desktop.
I agree. While I don't want to use other desktops, I do sometimes want to use some of their packages. It is just plain silly that -- in order to use only a couple items -- I must install a whole other desktop.
However when I right click an attachment in KMail, I have the option to choose "Open with..." and then associate the MIME-type with specific TDE application.
Perhaps it is just a matter of time for everybody to comply to the Freedesktop specs, but remember that TDE existed before those specs were written and the others may implement slightly different versions of these specs.
It would help to improve TDE's public image, too. I don't know how it is now, but I remember that a few years ago there was a lot of bad talk on various "distro watch" sites, about how we were stuck in the past, a dinosaur, etc.
Now, it seems to me, it was good, and it just keeps getting better, and I regard them (i.e., the users of the newer KDE5 Plasma and Gnome and the others out there) with pity. It is beyond me why anybody would want to use them.
Bill
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