Hi All,
2nd message of the day. I've done a new clean install of the TDE r14.0.1 packages on Mageia 5 and I'm finding that the TDE icon styles and widgets are overriding the normal ones used for non-TDE apps. I've been through all the settings I can find (including turning off the "Apply colours to non KDE apps" option), but I can't find any way to stop this. Any suggestions? I'm figuring there must be an option or a package somewhere which controls this but after over an hour of hunting through the options and searching documentation I've failed to find the answer.
Thanks in advance, Tim W
On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 23:50:08 +0100 Tim Williams tmw@autotrain.org wrote:
Hi All,
2nd message of the day. I've done a new clean install of the TDE r14.0.1 packages on Mageia 5 and I'm finding that the TDE icon styles and widgets are overriding the normal ones used for non-TDE apps. I've been through all the settings I can find (including turning off the "Apply colours to non KDE apps" option), but I can't find any way to stop this. Any suggestions? I'm figuring there must be an option or a package somewhere which controls this but after over an hour of hunting through the options and searching documentation I've failed to find the answer.
Look for a package called gtk-qt-engine, or something like that. (I'm assuming that "non-TDE apps" means "GTK applications".)
E. Liddell
On Tuesday 15 September 2015 03:01:53 am E. Liddell wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 23:50:08 +0100
Tim Williams tmw@autotrain.org wrote:
Hi All,
2nd message of the day. I've done a new clean install of the TDE r14.0.1 packages on Mageia 5 and I'm finding that the TDE icon styles and widgets are overriding the normal ones used for non-TDE apps. I've been through all the settings I can find (including turning off the "Apply colours to non KDE apps" option), but I can't find any way to stop this. Any suggestions? I'm figuring there must be an option or a package somewhere which controls this but after over an hour of hunting through the options and searching documentation I've failed to find the answer.
Look for a package called gtk-qt-engine, or something like that. (I'm assuming that "non-TDE apps" means "GTK applications".)
E. Liddell
Not clear on the op's issue, but these are the two packages for gtk apps.
gtk-qt-engine: ~ GTK 2 theme engine that calls Qt to do the actual drawing
gtk3-tqt-engine:~GTK3 style engine which uses the active TDE style to draw its widgets
Hi,
Thanks for the answer.
Look for a package called gtk-qt-engine, or something like that.
According to my package manager gtk-qt-engine isn't installed.
If I login using XFCE instead of TDE, then the problem goes away, so this is definitely related to something that's activated by using TDE.
(I'm assuming that "non-TDE apps" means "GTK applications".)
I haven't checked many apps to which tool kits are and are not affected, but OpenOffice, Firefox and Mageia control centre are all exhibiting the problem. The Mageia control centre is a particular problem because the alternative styles are making the scroll bar on the software manger very "jumpy". In Firefox my the standard them gets a load of thick black lines which don't look very nice.
Any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Tim W
On Wednesday 16 September 2015 21:08, Tim WIlliams wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for the answer.
Look for a package called gtk-qt-engine, or something like that.
According to my package manager gtk-qt-engine isn't installed.
If I login using XFCE instead of TDE, then the problem goes away, so this is definitely related to something that's activated by using TDE.
(I'm assuming that "non-TDE apps" means "GTK applications".)
I haven't checked many apps to which tool kits are and are not affected, but OpenOffice, Firefox and Mageia control centre are all exhibiting the problem. The Mageia control centre is a particular problem because the alternative styles are making the scroll bar on the software manger very "jumpy". In Firefox my the standard them gets a load of thick black lines which don't look very nice.
Any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Tim W
Hi Tim,
I had similar problems with Opera which was badly drawn resulting in a thick black line across the tab bar and other problems with the tool bars not displaying correctly.
I eventually resolved the problem by installing the packages below gtk2-engines-murrine murrine-themes
Having installed them open tde control centre (system settings) appearance/gtk styles and fonts. Under GTK Styles choose use another style and chose one of the Murrine styles. I chose MurrinaBlue but probably any of the murrine styles will work.
After a reboot I found that Opera was fixed.
This was with Xubuntu Lucid 10.04 and Precise 12.04 both with TDE 3.5.13.2
Hoping this may resolve your problem.
Nigel.
On Thursday 17 September 2015 06:00:51 am Nigel Henry wrote:
On Wednesday 16 September 2015 21:08, Tim WIlliams wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for the answer.
Look for a package called gtk-qt-engine, or something like that.
According to my package manager gtk-qt-engine isn't installed.
If I login using XFCE instead of TDE, then the problem goes away, so this is definitely related to something that's activated by using TDE.
(I'm assuming that "non-TDE apps" means "GTK applications".)
I haven't checked many apps to which tool kits are and are not affected, but OpenOffice, Firefox and Mageia control centre are all exhibiting the problem. The Mageia control centre is a particular problem because the alternative styles are making the scroll bar on the software manger very "jumpy". In Firefox my the standard them gets a load of thick black lines which don't look very nice.
Any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Tim W
Hi Tim,
I had similar problems with Opera which was badly drawn resulting in a thick black line across the tab bar and other problems with the tool bars not displaying correctly.
I eventually resolved the problem by installing the packages below gtk2-engines-murrine murrine-themes
Having installed them open tde control centre (system settings) appearance/gtk styles and fonts. Under GTK Styles choose use another style and chose one of the Murrine styles. I chose MurrinaBlue but probably any of the murrine styles will work.
After a reboot I found that Opera was fixed.
This was with Xubuntu Lucid 10.04 and Precise 12.04 both with TDE 3.5.13.2
Hoping this may resolve your problem.
Nigel.
In my case, non-TDE means QT4 apps, Virtualbox and VLC. I have been geting gui visual issues,black lines, googling indicates a bug in QT4.8.x , which Debian Jessie uses. Does Opera use QT4?
I tried the 2 gtk packages to see if they would help..a long..long shot..no go..but I found another theme engine installed "qt4-tqt-theme-engine. I uninstalled this and my issues with Vbox & VLC are gone.
What was happening In Vbox, under the 'manage media' option. every odd line entry is shaded, with the qt4 theme engine the shaded line was black..a symtom of the QT4 bug is black lines. The down side is the fonts in the Vbox interface are smaller.
On 19/09/15 09:22, Greg Madden wrote:
In my case, non-TDE means QT4 apps, Virtualbox and VLC. I have been geting gui visual issues,black lines, googling indicates a bug in QT4.8.x , which Debian Jessie uses. Does Opera use QT4?
I tried the 2 gtk packages to see if they would help..a long..long shot..no go..but I found another theme engine installed "qt4-tqt-theme-engine. I uninstalled this and my issues with Vbox & VLC are gone.
Hi Greg,
VLC seems to be unaffected on my system and the qt4-tqt-theme-engine package isn't installed, so that at least is one problem I don't have.
As far as I can tell the only gtk "engine" package I have installed is the gtk2-theme-engines packages which contains the "default" GTK+ 2.0 engines.
Hi Tim,
I eventually resolved the problem by installing the packages below gtk2-engines-murrine murrine-themes
Having installed them open tde control centre (system settings)
appearance/gtk
styles and fonts. Under GTK Styles choose use another style and chose
one of
the Murrine styles. I chose MurrinaBlue but probably any of the murrine styles will work.
Hi Nigel,
I've installed the equivalent Mageia murrine packages, but the "appearance/gtk styles and fonts" option in the TDE control centre is missing on my system and I've not been able to identify what I need to install to make this option available.
I do have the gtk-chtheme tool installed, but TDE seems to be overriding the choice made with this tool.
Thanks again, Tim W
Hi All,
I've finally found the "(system settings) appearance/gtk styles and fonts" option, you need to install the trinity-gtk-qt-engine and trinity-gtk3-qt-engine packages to get it to appear. After using this to choose the "oxygen-gtk" theme, this has mostly solved my problems. The Mageia control centre is still failing to pick up my alternative theme settings (although the scroll bar "jumpiness" has been fixed"). Other apps like Firefox are now displaying normally.
Thanks for your help!
Tim W
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