Hi, List :-)
I have been holding fire in changing my desktop from my nice stable TDE on Squeeze until TDE for Wheezy sounded less dicey. I then delayed further when it recently stabilised because I had too much else going on in my life, and as I said, my system is great. I love TDE 3.5.13.2.
But the time has come to upgrade. Other things have simmered down a bit, anyhow temporarily, so the time has come.
In the past, I have always reinstalled. This time I want to try upgrading. When I edit my sources.list, I assume that I change the word squeeze to wheezy in my TDE repositories too? (Including Slávek's.) And that I just do a standard Debian update, dist-upgrade? (Yes, I have read the release notes. And yes, I shall make sure that I have got at least two backups of my data in at least two different places.)
All advice and tips welcome. "Just go ahead"s perhaps even more welcome!
Thanks, Lisi
Hi, List :-)
I have been holding fire in changing my desktop from my nice stable TDE on Squeeze until TDE for Wheezy sounded less dicey. I then delayed further when it recently stabilised because I had too much else going on in my life, and as I said, my system is great. I love TDE 3.5.13.2.
But the time has come to upgrade. Other things have simmered down a bit, anyhow temporarily, so the time has come.
In the past, I have always reinstalled. This time I want to try upgrading. When I edit my sources.list, I assume that I change the word squeeze to wheezy in my TDE repositories too? (Including Slávek's.) And that I just do a standard Debian update, dist-upgrade? (Yes, I have read the release notes. And yes, I shall make sure that I have got at least two backups of my data in at least two different places.)
All advice and tips welcome. "Just go ahead"s perhaps even more welcome!
Thanks, Lisi
Hi,
I would not put my hands in the fire on that, but deb package management is known to be reliable, if you do a backup of your personal data first, I don't see why it should not be done. PCLinuxOS is a rolling release, which means that many packages are replaced many times during the ''installation life of the system'', and it rarely gets messed up after an update. To be 100% sure of what to write in your sources.list, I recommend you to visit the TDE Debian installation instructions.
If you are used to reinstall your system every time and you did backup your data first, the worst thing that could happen is that it would render you installation unusable and you'll need to reinstall.
Tell us if it works as it should :)
-Alexandre
On Sunday 18 of August 2013 22:37:51 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Hi, List :-)
I have been holding fire in changing my desktop from my nice stable TDE on Squeeze until TDE for Wheezy sounded less dicey. I then delayed further when it recently stabilised because I had too much else going on in my life, and as I said, my system is great. I love TDE 3.5.13.2.
But the time has come to upgrade. Other things have simmered down a bit, anyhow temporarily, so the time has come.
In the past, I have always reinstalled. This time I want to try upgrading. When I edit my sources.list, I assume that I change the word squeeze to wheezy in my TDE repositories too? (Including Slávek's.) And that I just do a standard Debian update, dist-upgrade? (Yes, I have read the release notes. And yes, I shall make sure that I have got at least two backups of my data in at least two different places.)
All advice and tips welcome. "Just go ahead"s perhaps even more welcome!
Thanks, Lisi
On one of my work machines, I simply changed the apt sources squeeze to wheezy and then apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade. It went smoothly.
It occurs to me the only thing is to watch out for: on Wheezy is not available Trinity applet for NetworkManager. If you use it, you must hold a version for Squeeze.
Slavek --
On Thursday 22 of August 2013 13:34:24 Jan Stolarek wrote:
on Wheezy is not available Trinity applet for NetworkManager.
Oh, why is that?
Janek
Applet from Trinity 3.5.13.x is incompatible with NetworkManager 9.x.
Slavek --
Applet from Trinity 3.5.13.x is incompatible with NetworkManager 9.x.
:) Yes, it figures.
I just realized I'm not really certain what you meant by "Trinity applet for NetworkManager"? Did you mean that nm-applet (that is NetworkManager aplet for Gnome) is no longer compatible with Trinity? Or did you meant that KNetworkManager is no longer compatible with Trinity?
Janek
On Thursday 22 of August 2013 14:28:52 Jan Stolarek wrote:
Applet from Trinity 3.5.13.x is incompatible with NetworkManager 9.x.
:) Yes, it figures.
I just realized I'm not really certain what you meant by "Trinity applet for NetworkManager"? Did you mean that nm-applet (that is NetworkManager aplet for Gnome) is no longer compatible with Trinity? Or did you meant that KNetworkManager is no longer compatible with Trinity?
Janek
Package network-manager-kde-trinity, also known as knetworkmanager-trinity, source package knetworkmanager8-trinity. You can either hold version from Squeeze or use another applet - for example nm-applet.
Slavek --
You can either hold version from Squeeze
Iit's possible to keep the binary and it will still work correctly, then why it is not possible to build a new version of package for Wheezy? I don't know much about packaging and so on, so perhaps this is a dumb question.
Janek
On Thursday 22 of August 2013 15:09:58 Jan Stolarek wrote:
You can either hold version from Squeeze
Iit's possible to keep the binary and it will still work correctly, then why it is not possible to build a new version of package for Wheezy? I don't know much about packaging and so on, so perhaps this is a dumb question.
Janek
It should hold not only network-manager-kde-trinity, but of course also NetworkManager as such.
For R14 is already prepared a new solution that uses TDE hardware library. Therefore, there is not a simple way to update the knetworkmanager8 used in 3.5.13.x branch.
Slavek
Oh, so KNetworkManager was simply replaced by something else? That's something different :)
Janek
----- Oryginalna wiadomość ----- Od: "Slávek Banko" slavek.banko@axis.cz Do: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Wysłane: czwartek, 22 sierpień 2013 14:17:00 Temat: Re: [trinity-users] Updating from Squeeze to Wheezy
On Thursday 22 of August 2013 15:09:58 Jan Stolarek wrote:
You can either hold version from Squeeze
Iit's possible to keep the binary and it will still work correctly, then why it is not possible to build a new version of package for Wheezy? I don't know much about packaging and so on, so perhaps this is a dumb question.
Janek
It should hold not only network-manager-kde-trinity, but of course also NetworkManager as such.
For R14 is already prepared a new solution that uses TDE hardware library. Therefore, there is not a simple way to update the knetworkmanager8 used in 3.5.13.x branch.
Slavek
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Thanks for your reply, Slávek. I have another lengthy backup to do tonight, and possibly one tomorrow. Then off we go. :-)
On Thursday 22 August 2013 12:26:46 Slávek Banko wrote:
on Wheezy is not available Trinity applet for NetworkManager. If you use it,
NM and I get on rather worse than KDE4 and I. I never give it house room, so shall not miss its applet!
Lisi
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