On Thursday 05 February 2015 14:46:31 Alexandre wrote:

I always had the habit of using Kate. Kate, Kwrite and Kedit are all 3 derivates of the same program, so I guess that it shouldn't make too much difference to use any of the 3.

Thanks, Alexander. KWrite is simpler than Kate. As you know, I like simple. But I'll look for Kedit. If it is there, that should be fine.

In the event, I used Nano. I can live with Nano. I just happen to like KWrite!

Lisi

On 02/06/2015 12:30 PM, Greg Madden wrote:

On Thursday 05 February 2015 06:05:37 am Lisi Reisz wrote:

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On Thursday 05 February 2015 14:46:31 Alexandre wrote:

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I always had the habit of using Kate. Kate, Kwrite and Kedit are all 3 derivates of the same program, so I guess that it shouldn't make too much difference to use any of the 3.

Thanks, Alexander. KWrite is simpler than Kate. As you know, I like simple. But I'll look for Kedit. If it is there, that should be fine.

In the event, I used Nano. I can live with Nano. I just happen to like KWrite!

Lisi

There is no 'kwrite' here in 3.5.13, kedit and kate, I vaugley remember kwrite being =deprecated .

Peace,

Greg

Using pclinuxos , I have both Kwrite and ' trinity-kwrite ' in the repos. Kwrite (pclos ) is not installed ' trinity-kwrite ' is installed and functional

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On Friday 06 February 2015 09:11:04 Greg Madden wrote:

On Thursday 05 February 2015 08:36:13 pm Tony Wolfs wrote:

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On 02/06/2015 12:30 PM, Greg Madden wrote:

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On Thursday 05 February 2015 06:05:37 am Lisi Reisz wrote:

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On Thursday 05 February 2015 14:46:31 Alexandre wrote:

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I always had the habit of using Kate. Kate, Kwrite and Kedit are all 3 derivates of the same program, so I guess that it shouldn't make too much difference to use any of the 3.

Thanks, Alexander. KWrite is simpler than Kate. As you know, I like simple. But I'll look for Kedit. If it is there, that should be fine.

In the event, I used Nano. I can live with Nano. I just happen to like KWrite!

Lisi

There is no 'kwrite' here in 3.5.13, kedit and kate, I vaugley remember kwrite being =deprecated .

Peace,

Greg

Using pclinuxos , I have both Kwrite and ' trinity-kwrite ' in the repos. Kwrite (pclos ) is not installed ' trinity-kwrite ' is installed and functional

Both kedit and kwrite (trinity versions, of course,) are fully functional, by default, so far as I can remember, on two Debian Wheezy TDE 13.5.13.2 machines here. Fully functional means launcher and menu and runs OK.

It is my £$%^78* Mint machine with TDE 14 that is causing problems.

Well, I should have mentioned on Debian Squeeze + 3.5.13 and Wheezy R14, Lisi is a , rock on , Debian user.

:-)) And being punished for my brief attempt to look at something else. :-(

Lisi

On Thursday 05 February 2015 14:51:13 Mike Bird wrote:

On Thu February 5 2015 06:31:25 Lisi Reisz wrote:

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What is KWrite called in TDE14? (From teh point of view of installing it.)

In R14 on Wheezy /opt/trinity/bin/kwrite is in package kate-trinity.

It should be in every TDE installation because kate-trinity is required by tdebase-trinity.

There does seem to be a problem with presenting TDE applications in Debian menus. I'm not sure exactly where the bug lies.

This is that **** Linux Mint installation. I can't launch KWrite with the launcher (which is what I have done for years), so I tried to install it, starting with search. Aptitude simply can't find it. I'll look for it now I kniow where to look.

Lisi

On Thursday 05 February 2015 15:17:39 Gerhard Zintel wrote:

On Thursday 05 February 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:

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What is KWrite called in TDE14? (From teh point of view of installing it.)

In R14 on Wheezy /opt/trinity/bin/kwrite is in package kate-trinity.

It should be in every TDE installation because kate-trinity is required by tdebase-trinity.

This is that **** Linux Mint installation. I can't launch KWrite with the launcher (which is what I have done for years), so I tried to install it, starting with search. Aptitude simply can't find it. I'll look for it now I kniow where to look.

Lisi

I'm on Linux Mint as well; find the screen capture of my kwrite program. I started it in a konsole launching (as you guess) kwrite though.

Gerhard

Thanks, Gerhard. That's what I expected to get. There is obviously a problem that is specific to this installation.

I have had it with this installation. As soon as I can have access for a couple of days in case of problems (half an hour to install plus two days frantic emailing while I try to get sound going ;-) ) I shall install Debian and TDE and sail away into the sunset. (It is attached to our television and is used a lot for old programmes etc..)

I am struggling so with this installation. I am not allowed to say that I think it is horrid, but I do think that it is horrid!! It is just about usable now I have replaced MATE with TDE, but I am currently struggling to get a CLI, with X not running at all, in order to generate an Xorg.conf in order.....

Don't let's go there! I am learning a lot, but I am too old. Old dogs and new tricks. In future I shall stick with Debian and TDE for as long as they will have me. ;-)

Lisi

On Thu February 5 2015 16:22:23 Lisi Reisz wrote:

Thanks. Yes, it is there in Mint too and can be launched from there. But Kedit isn't there.

FWIW, in Wheezy: /opt/trinity/bin/kedit comes in package kedit-trinity.

--Mike

On Thu, 5 Feb 2015, Mike Bird wrote:

On Thu February 5 2015 17:02:44 Mike Bird wrote:

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FWIW, in Wheezy: /opt/trinity/bin/kedit comes in package kedit-trinity.

Hi Lizi,

Would you mind checking something for me please?

Would you see if kedit and kwrite are in your T-menu under Utilities/Editors.

FWIW, I'm on an old Ubuntu 10.04 with Trinity 3.5.13.2 and _only_ Kate appears in the menus. I have been running `kwrite` from the command line for the last four years. :-)

If they are not, please run update-menus (from the menu package) and then see if they have appeared under Utilities/Editors.

I did that and nothing new appeared under [ Editors -> ]. I re-ran `update-menus` with the verbose option (-v) and got

$ sudo update-menus -v [sudo] password for jonesy: update-menus[3180]: Dpkg is not locking dpkg status area, good. update-menus[3180]: Reading installed packages list... update-menus[3180]: Reading translation rules in /etc/menu-methods/translate_menus. update-menus[3180]: Reading menu-entry files in /etc/menu/. update-menus[3180]: 0 menu entries found (0 total). update-menus[3180]: Reading menu-entry files in /usr/lib/menu/. update-menus[3180]: 0 menu entries found (0 total). update-menus[3180]: Reading menu-entry files in /usr/share/menu/. update-menus[3180]: file /usr/share/menu/kmag-trinity line 9: Discarding entry requiring missing package kmag. update-menus[3180]: file /usr/share/menu/kpdf-trinity line 12: Discarding entry requiring missing package kpdf. update-menus[3180]: file /usr/share/menu/konversation-trinity line 10: Discarding entry requiring missing package konversation. update-menus[3180]: file /usr/share/menu/kghostview-trinity line 12: Discarding entry requiring missing package kghostview. update-menus[3180]: file /usr/share/menu/kmenuedit-trinity line 12: Discarding entry requiring missing package kmenuedit. update-menus[3180]: file /usr/share/menu/ksnapshot-trinity line 12: Discarding entry requiring missing package ksnapshot. <-- BIG snip -->

err, ummmm, lots of those packages ARE installed.

HTH, Jonesy

On Friday 06 February 2015, Mike Bird wrote:

On Thu February 5 2015 17:02:44 Mike Bird wrote:

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FWIW, in Wheezy: /opt/trinity/bin/kedit comes in package kedit-trinity.

Hi Lizi,

Would you mind checking something for me please?

Would you see if kedit and kwrite are in your T-menu under Utilities/Editors.

only Kate in the menu here on Mint. I can launch kwrite from konsole though. I have not found the package that contains kwrite

$ apt-file search kwrite

gives me nothing.

$ dpkg -l|grep -i kwrite

gives me nothing as well.

If they are not, please run update-menus (from the menu package) and then see if they have appeared under Utilities/Editors.

Here I dont know how to do it. What is the menu package?

dpkg -l|grep -i menu|grep -i tde

gives me

ii kmenuedit-trinity 4:14.0.0-s~1438-0ubuntu13.04.0+181 i386 menu \ editor for TDE

This is installes for shure but I do not find an update-menus command, neither from command line nor inside the TDE menu.

Gerhard

On Friday 06 February 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:

As Mike said, there is a package called <menu>. I had to install it to get update-menus.

Thanks Lisi,

found it, installed it, run it - no difference, does not put kwrite into the menu. In contrary to your experience /opt/trinity/bin is in my PATH variable. Can not remember if I did it by myself formerly though.

Gerhard

On Friday 06 February 2015 02:24:44 Mike Bird wrote:

Would you mind checking something for me please?

Would you see if kedit and kwrite are in your T-menu under Utilities/Editors.

In Wheezy with 3.5.13.2, yes. In Linux Mint with 14.0.0, no.

So, in Mint:

If they are not, please run update-menus (from the menu package) and then see if they have appeared under Utilities/Editors.

I had to install the menu package!!

Then, no. As far as I can see, KEdit is not installed. KWrite is there, but can only be run with its full path from the command line. (/opt/trinity/bin/kwrite) It isn't in the menu, won't run from the launcher and won't run from the CLI unless I give the full path, although /opt/trinity/bin/ is in my user's PATH.

If, at the CLI, I type kwrite, I get told that it is not installed, if I type kwrite-trinity it says that it can't find it.

I'll go and try updating. I have been avoiding updating in case of glitches, since I am going to reinstall at the first opportunity.

Lisi

On Friday 06 February 2015 11:02:52 Gerhard Zintel wrote:

On Friday 06 February 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:

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In Wheezy with 3.5.13.2, yes. In Linux Mint with 14.0.0, no.

So, in Mint:

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If they are not, please run update-menus (from the menu package) and then see if they have appeared under Utilities/Editors.

I had to install the menu package!!

Then, no. As far as I can see, KEdit is not installed. KWrite is there, but can only be run with its full path from the command line. (/opt/trinity/bin/kwrite) It isn't in the menu, won't run from the launcher and won't run from the CLI unless I give the full path, although /opt/trinity/bin/ is in my user's PATH.

If, at the CLI, I type kwrite, I get told that it is not installed, if I type kwrite-trinity it says that it can't find it.

As a workaround you can easily put it into the menu by yourself. Right-click the menu, open Menu Editor, move to Utilities -> Editors, Right-click and choose New Item ..., give a name (Kwrite), fill in description, command, choose an icon, save it and you are done.

Hope that helps Gerhard

Thanks, Gerhard! But why would I want it in the menu??? Mike just wants to know what is working and what is not working.

Lisi

On Fri February 6 2015 03:15:14 Lisi Reisz wrote:

Launcher now works to launch kwrite. \o/ Yay! Still not in menu, even after update-menus. (Which will run from the launcher as well as the CLI.)

Thank you Lizi and others for the additional information.

I'm still not sure where the problem lies but this may help to figure it out.

FWIW my r14 Wheezy has kwrite in the menus but it has been upgraded many times from much earlier versions. I don't know if an r14 Wheezy fresh install would have kwrite in the menus.

--Mike

On Friday 06 February 2015 11:19:41 am Dave Lers wrote:

Mike Bird wrote:

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upgraded many times from much earlier versions. I don't know if an r14 Wheezy fresh install would have kwrite in the menus.

It does. Wheezy w/ fresh/default r14 screenshot attached.

I could not find a kwrite-trinity package to install, but it is installed as you have shown. I purged kate-trinity, that removes kwrite as well..kate is a part of metapackage tdebase-trinity -- m Peace,

Greg