Hi I love KDE4 & KDE 3. I recently tried Porteus GNU/Linux which comes with Trinity KDE pre-installed. It is an up-to-date distro, not one or two years old. Porteus with Trinity is awesome & very fast, the only problem is it is not designed to be installed to a hard drive in a traditional sense. It's only meant to be used as a liveCD or live USB drive or live off of the hard drive. What are some distros that include Trinity KDE pre-installed? Ideally, ones that have a liveDVD or liveCD option would be best. Thanks very much. Cheers, Elcaset -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom & User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm