13 Aug
2019
13 Aug
'19
10:46 a.m.
Hi all,
Maybe not really a Trinity issue, but:
On my Toshiba z20t, I have setup so that I get an onscreen keyboard at login,
for the (rare) occasions where I use the computer as a tablet.
This had been talked about some time ago on this list and involves adding
onboard &
in /etc/trinity/tdm/Xsetup
and
killall onboard
in /etc/trinity/tdm/Xstartup
Now, the issue: this works perfectly on Stretch. It does not on Buster. Both
installs on the same machine. Onboard itself works, simlpy it does not appear
on the login screen on my Buster install.
The only difference I can find (except for Debian's version) is that Buster's
Trinity was installed from Slavek's repository.
Thierry
13 Aug
13 Aug
11:14 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] /etc/trinity/tdm/Xsetup not working on Buster
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 13 Aug 12:46:34 +0200
Thierry de Coulon scripsit:
Hi all,
Maybe not really a Trinity issue, but:
On my Toshiba z20t, I have setup so that I get an onscreen keyboard at login,
for the (rare) occasions where I use the computer as a tablet.
This had been talked about some time ago on this list and involves adding
onboard &
in /etc/trinity/tdm/Xsetup
and
killall onboard
in /etc/trinity/tdm/Xstartup
Now, the issue: this works perfectly on Stretch. It does not on Buster. Both
installs on the same machine. Onboard itself works, simlpy it does not appear
on the login screen on my Buster install.
The only difference I can find (except for Debian's version) is that Buster's
Trinity was installed from Slavek's repository.
Thierry
does "onboard" work at all on buster?
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New subject: [trinity-users] /etc/trinity/tdm/Xsetup not working on Buster
On Tuesday 13 August 2019 13.14:46 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
does "onboard" work at all on buster?
Yes, it does.
I tried florence, and florence does load with Xsetup but crahes or does not
take input. Either something is broken in latest TDE or (more probably)
something is broken in latest Debian. Wether this is another effect of
systemd I can't say, or could it be linked to the fact that (if I read right)
Buster uses Wayland?
Thierry
6:55 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] /etc/trinity/tdm/Xsetup not working on Buster
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 13 Aug 16:04:10 +0200
Thierry de Coulon scripsit:
On Tuesday 13 August 2019 13.14:46 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
IMO Wayland is not the default, but it could be worth checking. What does the log of
Xsetup say?
Nik
does "onboard" work at all on buster?
Yes, it does.
I tried florence, and florence does load with Xsetup but crahes or does not
take input. Either something is broken in latest TDE or (more probably)
something is broken in latest Debian. Wether this is another effect of
systemd I can't say, or could it be linked to the fact that (if I read right)
Buster uses Wayland?
Thierry
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8:42 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] /etc/trinity/tdm/Xsetup not working on Buster
On Tuesday 13 August 2019 20.55:05 Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
IMO Wayland is not the default, but it could be worth
checking.
This is what I read: "In this release, GNOME defaults to using the Wayland
display server instead of Xorg. Wayland has a simpler and more modern design,
which has advantages for security. However, the Xorg display server is still
installed by default and the default display manager allows users to choose
Xorg as the display server for their next session."
https://www.debian.org/News/2019/20190706
I did not install Gnome however (but I do use apps that expect Gnome).
What does
the log of Xsetup say?
Could not find anything like Xsetup.org. Nothing in /var/log and a search for
Xsetup.log or xsetup.log did not return anything.
Thierry
9:07 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] /etc/trinity/tdm/Xsetup not working on Buster
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 13 Aug 22:42:38 +0200
Thierry de Coulon scripsit:
On Tuesday 13 August 2019 20.55:05 Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
hm .. add a "1>/tmp/log 2>&1" after the onscreen keyboard and look
what's written to it.
IMO Wayland is not the default, but it could be
worth checking.
This is what I read: "In this release, GNOME defaults to using the Wayland
display server instead of Xorg. Wayland has a simpler and more modern design,
which has advantages for security. However, the Xorg display server is still
installed by default and the default display manager allows users to choose
Xorg as the display server for their next session."
https://www.debian.org/News/2019/20190706
I did not install Gnome however (but I do use apps that expect Gnome).
What does
the log of Xsetup say?
Could not find anything like Xsetup.org. Nothing in /var/log and a search for
Xsetup.log or xsetup.log did not return anything.
Thierry
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9:22 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] /etc/trinity/tdm/Xsetup not working on Buster
On Tuesday 13 August 2019 23.07:14 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
hm .. add a "1>/tmp/log 2>&1"
after the onscreen keyboard and look what's
written to it.
23:14:01.027 WARNING OnboardGtk: D-Bus session bus unavailable Onboard will
start with reduced functionality. Single-instance check, D-Bus service and
hover click are disabled.
23:14:01.094 WARNING Config: mousetweaks GSettings schema not found,
mousetweaks integration disabled.
(onboard:659): dconf-WARNING **: 23:14:01.149: failed to commit changes to
dconf: Failed to execute child process “dbus-launch” (No such file or
directory)
(onboard:659): dconf-WARNING **: 23:14:01.411: failed to commit changes to
dconf: Failed to execute child process “dbus-launch” (No such file or
directory)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/onboard", line 36, in <module>
ob = Onboard()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/Onboard/OnboardGtk.py", line 148, in
__init__
self.init()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/Onboard/OnboardGtk.py", line 189, in
init
self._init_delayed()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/Onboard/OnboardGtk.py", line 270, in
_init_delayed
self.service_keyboard = ServiceOnboardKeyboard(self)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/Onboard/OnboardGtk.py", line 854, in
__init__
ServiceBase.__init__(self, dbus.SessionBus(), self.NAME, self.PATH)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 211, in __new__
mainloop=mainloop)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 100, in __new__
bus = BusConnection.__new__(subclass, bus_type, mainloop=mainloop)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 122, in __new__
bus = cls._new_for_bus(address_or_type, mainloop=mainloop)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: /usr/bin/dbus-launch terminated
abnormally without any error message
If I start onboard after login I get:
23:19:55.516 WARNING Config: mousetweaks GSettings schema not found,
mousetweaks integration disabled.
(onboard:1116): Gdk-CRITICAL **: 23:19:57.706:
gdk_window_thaw_toplevel_updates:
assertion 'window->update_and_descendants_freeze_count > 0' failed
Thierry
14 Aug
14 Aug
6:36 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] /etc/trinity/tdm/Xsetup not working on Buster
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 13 Aug 23:22:10 +0200
Thierry de Coulon scripsit:
On Tuesday 13 August 2019 23.07:14 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
to sum it up: without dbus, onboard will not work. I suggest you use some other onscreen
keyboard.
Nik
hm .. add a "1>/tmp/log 2>&1"
after the onscreen keyboard and look what's
written to it.
23:14:01.027 WARNING OnboardGtk: D-Bus session bus unavailable Onboard will
start with reduced functionality. Single-instance check, D-Bus service and
hover click are disabled.
23:14:01.094 WARNING Config: mousetweaks GSettings schema not found,
mousetweaks integration disabled.
(onboard:659): dconf-WARNING **: 23:14:01.149: failed to commit changes to
dconf: Failed to execute child process “dbus-launch” (No such file or
directory)
(onboard:659): dconf-WARNING **: 23:14:01.411: failed to commit changes to
dconf: Failed to execute child process “dbus-launch” (No such file or
directory)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/onboard", line 36, in <module>
ob = Onboard()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/Onboard/OnboardGtk.py", line 148, in
__init__
self.init()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/Onboard/OnboardGtk.py", line 189, in
init
self._init_delayed()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/Onboard/OnboardGtk.py", line 270, in
_init_delayed
self.service_keyboard = ServiceOnboardKeyboard(self)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/Onboard/OnboardGtk.py", line 854, in
__init__
ServiceBase.__init__(self, dbus.SessionBus(), self.NAME, self.PATH)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 211, in __new__
mainloop=mainloop)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 100, in __new__
bus = BusConnection.__new__(subclass, bus_type, mainloop=mainloop)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 122, in __new__
bus = cls._new_for_bus(address_or_type, mainloop=mainloop)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: /usr/bin/dbus-launch terminated
abnormally without any error message
If I start onboard after login I get:
23:19:55.516 WARNING Config: mousetweaks GSettings schema not found,
mousetweaks integration disabled.
(onboard:1116): Gdk-CRITICAL **: 23:19:57.706:
gdk_window_thaw_toplevel_updates:
assertion 'window->update_and_descendants_freeze_count > 0' failed
Thierry
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New subject: [trinity-users] /etc/trinity/tdm/Xsetup not working on Buster
On Wednesday 14 August 2019 08.36:54 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
to sum it up: without dbus, onboard will not work. I suggest you use some
other onscreen keyboard.
Nik
Hmm... Florence does not work. kvkbd-trinity doesn't either (complains about
DCOP). I did not try KDE's kvkbd but I wouldn't expect much.
All this worked on Stretch so I will go back to stretch. The computer works
well with it so why bother with Buster?
Thanks for the help anyway!
Thierry
11:28 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] /etc/trinity/tdm/Xsetup not working on Buster
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 11:19:10 +0200
Thierry de Coulon <tcoulon(a)decoulon.ch> wrote:
On Wednesday 14 August 2019 08.36:54 Dr. Nikolaus
Klepp wrote:
What about matchbox-keyboard, if your distro packages it? I've never used it,
but it looks like its only dependencies are some X libraries (no dbus, DCOP, or
other messaging service).
E. Liddell
to sum it up: without dbus, onboard will not work. I suggest you use some
other onscreen keyboard.
Nik
Hmm... Florence does not work. kvkbd-trinity doesn't either (complains about
DCOP). I did not try KDE's kvkbd but I wouldn't expect much.
12:49 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] /etc/trinity/tdm/Xsetup not working on Buster
On Wednesday 14 August 2019 13.28:27 E. Liddell wrote:
What about matchbox-keyboard, if your distro packages
it? I've never used
it, but it looks like its only dependencies are some X libraries (no dbus,
DCOP, or other messaging service).
E. Liddell
Seems to work, but the keys are too small for my fingers on th login screen.
Thanks for the hint, I did not know that one.
have you tried "xvkbd" ?
Nik
This seems to be the solution if I want to keep Buster. xvkbd is a bit crude
compared to onboard, but for login it's enough.
Using -geometry I can get the keys to be big enough and the keyboard to be
placed correctly. Not so bad.
Thanks Nik
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