Ubuntu 14.04 , TDE 14.0 - first install here w/Trusty and TDE 14. This is puzzling... $ kiconedit The program 'kiconedit' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install kiconedit Well, I know if I do _that_, I'll end up with all of KDE 4. (I was bitten by something similar to that once on Ub 10.04 and TDE 13) So, $ sudo apt-get install kiconedit-trinity Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done kiconedit-trinity is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Huh? Maybe: $ kiconedit-trinity kiconedit-trinity: command not found So, I poke around in the TDE Menu and find it as TDEIconEdit. So, in fact, the CLI /bin name is `tdeiconedit`. How many more 'surprises' are there like that in TDE 14 versus TDE 13? And, how is a neophyte linux user (which my First Wife is about to become) suppose to know how to conqueror (or, is it TDEKonqueror?) such problems as they arise? Ok, ok ... so it was really just a rant. :-) Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | Marvin | W3DHJ | linux Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | FreeBSD __ 38.238N 104.547W | jonz.net | DM78rf | OS/2 SK