Hello,
I will migrate My Debian Buster to Bullseye. Before, I want to be careful : what problem(s) can I expect with TDE-Trinity ?
Thanks, cheers.
André
On Thu November 18 2021 12:17:29 ajh-valmer wrote:
I will migrate My Debian Buster to Bullseye. Before, I want to be careful : what problem(s) can I expect with TDE-Trinity ?
Hi André,
It should work fine. I've migrated several laptops and test boxes. Because of the different release dates I did the Buster to Bullseye upgrade before upgrading TDE from 14.0.10 to 14.0.11 but it should work fine if you choose to upgrade both at the same time or if your Buster is already using TDE 14.0.11.
FWIW I use sysvinit, not systemd, but TDE should work equally well with either.
--Mike
On Thursday 18 November 2021 22:10:33 Mike Bird wrote:
On Thu November 18 2021 12:17:29 ajh-valmer wrote:
I will migrate My Debian Buster to Bullseye. Before, I want to be careful : what problem(s) can I expect with TDE-Trinity ?
On Thursday 18 November 2021 22:22:54 D. R. Evans wrote:
I experienced no problems related to TDE when I upgraded my main desktop machine from buster to bullseye.
Hi André, It should work fine. I've migrated several laptops and test boxes. Because of the different release dates I did the Buster to Bullseye upgrade before upgrading TDE from 14.0.10 to 14.0.11 but it should work fine if you choose to upgrade both at the same time or if your Buster is already using TDE 14.0.11. FWIW I use sysvinit, not systemd, but TDE should work equally well with either. Mike
Good ! Thank you.
How to know my TDE version ? (14.0.10 or 14.0.11). I updated Buster, not a long time (7 days).
cheers
André
Soon after Bullseye was launched, I changed over.
I changed all the names to "bullseye" in /etc/apt/sources.list
Then "apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade" and let that run to completion.
Then "apt-get dist-upgrade" and let that run.
Reboot.
I then ran dselect and cleaned out the obsolete kernel versions, as well as letting dselect fix any dependencies it round. I like dselect for that.
Eveyrthing works. I also confirmed the correct TDE-Trinity sources.list entry with the latest entries on TDE once those were updated for Bullseye, and did a clean virtual machine install of Bullseye to make absolutely certain I had the correct security and "volitile" syntax in sources.list.
I'm paranoid that way having run Sid for many years.
The one and only error which I have found is in LibreOffice. My highlight color in TDE is red, rather than blue. I prefer a soft red.
LibreOffice in the updated install highlights in the default blue. In fact, it ignores the color settings entirely and gives me cold white and blue rather than warm red and taupe.
That is the only error from the upgrade. It's annoying, but of no functional impact.
Curt-
I don't know if this will come through, here is the color scheme I had before the upgrade to Bullseye, and what all of TDE uses after.
Curt-
Here it is after the update.
Not an awful change, but annoying, and the only "problem" with upgrading to Bullseye.
I also have not gone in and tried resetting the colors in TDE control pannel, for fear of screwing it up somehow and making things worse.
Curt-
said Curt Howland:
| Here it is after the update. | | Not an awful change, but annoying, and the only "problem" with | upgrading to Bullseye.
LibreOffice may be going all flaky on its own. Just this week, while running Ubuntu 20.04LTS as I have for most of this year, LibreOffice Writer stopped hyphenating the words it splits at the ends of lines. I'd made no style changes, nor had I changed or upgraded either the OS or LibreOffice itself. Sufficiently annoying that I've moved to AbiWord for the time being and may go back to TextMaker. -- dep
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 19:29:50 -0500 Curt Howland Howland@priss.com wrote:
The one and only error which I have found is in LibreOffice. My highlight color in TDE is red, rather than blue. I prefer a soft red.
LibreOffice in the updated install highlights in the default blue. In fact, it ignores the color settings entirely and gives me cold white and blue rather than warm red and taupe.
Stock LibreOffice from your distro's repositories will probably have been built with QT5 widgets (could also be GTK3, as recent versions seem to support both). TDE doesn't have any way of overriding QT5 colour schemes that I'm aware of.
Check LibreOffice's own settings, because in my experience it overrides some weird stuff about its own GUI. If you find nothing pertinent, install qt5ct and try adjusting things from there.
E. Liddell
install qt5ct and try adjusting things from there.
Many thanks, I will give that a try. No, I found nothing in LO's settings that made any difference at all.
It may very well be GTK poking through, since I did the base install with XFCE then added TDE. Next time I do a test VM, I'm going to try not installing a pre-packaged GUI at all, just the bare server, and see if TDE's dependencies pick up all that is needed out of the deep well that is Debian.
It's a shame, everything worked so well on Buster. The color difference was stark and immediately obvious.
Thanks again,
Curt-
On Saturday 20 November 2021 08:21:41 Curt Howland wrote:
install qt5ct and try adjusting things from there.
Many thanks, I will give that a try. No, I found nothing in LO's settings that made any difference at all.
Curt-
Not sure if this will help or not, but we seem to return to this question (under changing headings) every few months. I keep quoting and requoting and re-requoting it.
But here is the gist of it: ####### I stumbled on a site: https://askubuntu.com/questions/706528/qt-apps-stopped-inheriting-gtk-themes... https://web.archive.org/web/20201111174652/https://askubuntu.com/questions/7... wherein are unlocked the mysteries of qt5ct in a single line.
*NOTE that other pages gave information which was either contradictory or at least unclear, leaving me frustrated and unable to figure out where in /home/<USER>/.profile to insert the line for qt. So for other Trinity users out there who may want to use the look of their TDE and color outside the lines when using non-TDE apps, this is what actually worked for me.*
After installing qt5ct and whatever other packages (more for developers), run this command: sudo sh -c "echo 'export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=gtk2' >> /etc/environment"
Open qt5ct and choose according to personal preferences, then reboot. The user will now have TDE colors and themes in non-TDE applications. It will also run gtk2 and gtk3, and lots of other good stuff. It seems like it will work for other desktops, as well, as others say.
For most users, this will probably take care of their needs. #######
It sounds like this is what you're looking for. E.Liddell pointed me in this direction, and the rest I nicked from the webpage mentioned above.
I hope this helps!
Bill
On Thursday 18 November 2021 22:10:33 Mike Bird wrote:
[cut] before upgrading TDE from 14.0.10 to 14.0.11 but it should work fine if you choose to upgrade both at the same time or if your Buster is already using TDE 14.0.11.
Thanks for your numerous answers about Debian upgrade.
My TDE version is 14.0.12
Why Kmix changes the mixer from Pulseaudio to HDA Intel ? and why it puts the sound volume to max whereas I put it at min before switching off the computer ?
Cheers,
André
ajh-valmer wrote on 11/18/21 1:17 PM:
I will migrate My Debian Buster to Bullseye. Before, I want to be careful : what problem(s) can I expect with TDE-Trinity ?
I experienced no problems related to TDE when I upgraded my main desktop machine from buster to bullseye.
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