25 Apr
2018
25 Apr
'18
3:34 a.m.
It only happens on one of the four accounts on my system; the others work
fine with Trinity.
I created a brand new account and it works flawlessly, so there must be
something broken in that one account, not in the Trinity installation. Any
clues as to what sort of files/directories are involved? Just exactly what
is xdg and what does it do/is it good for?
Leslie
On 2018-04-24 20:53:19 Kate Draven wrote:
I've never seen that output before.
I think your TDE install is damaged or broken.
Or your user has a problem. You should try this before anything.
25 Apr
25 Apr
6:22 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: [Users] Strange messages at startup for one account
Hi!
Am Mittwoch, 25. April 2018 schrieb Leslie Turriff:
It only happens on one of the four accounts on my
system; the others work
fine with Trinity.
I created a brand new account and it works flawlessly, so there must be
something broken in that one account, not in the Trinity installation. Any
clues as to what sort of files/directories are involved? Just exactly what
is xdg and what does it do/is it good for?
xdg is the "black magic" that lets you do things like "xdg-open
a-pdf-file.pdf" and the associated pdf-viewer will come up (or it won't, if
it's monday morning and you are under pressure)
But looking at r14-xdg-update, could it be that said account contains traces of kde3? If
so, please remove .kde* - most likely you'll have to move .trinity to .trinity-old,
then log in as the user and recreate the settings (or move them over one by one from
.trinity-old, so you'll know what caused the error).
Oh, you did already a "chown USERNAME:GROUPNAME ~USERNAME" as root, didn't
you?
Nik
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10:48 p.m.
New subject: [Users] Re: [Users] Strange messages at startup for one account
On 2018-04-25 01:22:34 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Am Mittwoch, 25. April 2018 schrieb Leslie Turriff:
There is no ~/.trinity in this account; Trinity is using
~/.kde (which seems
strange and frightening).
It only happens on one of the four accounts on
my system; the others
work fine with Trinity.
I created a brand new account and it works flawlessly, so there must be
something broken in that one account, not in the Trinity installation.
Any clues as to what sort of files/directories are involved? Just
exactly what is xdg and what does it do/is it good for?
xdg is the "black magic" that lets you do things like "xdg-open
a-pdf-file.pdf" and the associated pdf-viewer will come up (or it won't, if
it's monday morning and you are under pressure)
But looking at r14-xdg-update, could it be that said account contains
traces of kde3? If so, please remove .kde* - most likely you'll have to
move .trinity to .trinity-old, then log in as the user and recreate the
settings (or move them over one by one from .trinity-old, so you'll know
what caused the error).
Oh, you did already a "chown USERNAME:GROUPNAME ~USERNAME" as root, didn't
you?
No. I am assuming that all of these operations are to be performed in the
affected account.
Leslie
11:20 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Strange messages at startup for one account
Leslie Turriff composed on 2018-04-25 17:48 (UTC-0500):
There is no ~/.trinity in this account; Trinity is
using ~/.kde (which seems
strange and frightening).
That can't be right. What does ls -l /home/ list for permissions? Is each the
same for all users?
Do each of *.repo in /etc/zypp/repos.d/ point to 42.3?
BTW, the 42.3 kernel has been updated 3 times since the one you are running.
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get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation)
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26 Apr
26 Apr
2:10 a.m.
New subject: [Users] Strange messages at startup for one account
On 2018-04-25 18:20:23 Felix Miata wrote:
Leslie Turriff composed on 2018-04-25 17:48
(UTC-0500):
@21:03:36,root@pinto
~
$ ls -la /home/leslie | grep -i trinity
@21:04:27,root@pinto
~
$
There is no ~/.trinity in this account; Trinity
is using ~/.kde (which
seems strange and frightening).
That can't be right. What does ls -l /home/ list for permissions? Is each
the same for all users?
@17:40:51,root@pinto
~
$ ls -l /home/
total 80K
drwxr-xr-x+ 180 leslie users 16K 2018-04-25 17:40 leslie
drwxr-xr-x 25 test users 4.0K 2018-04-24 02:35 test
drwxr-xr-x 23 turriff users 4.0K 2018-04-25 18:15 turriff
drwxr-xr-x 7 zVMer osc 274 2017-09-07 17:43 zVMer
Do each of *.repo in /etc/zypp/repos.d/ point to 42.3?
@21:07:53,root@pinto
~
$ grep -i opensuse /etc/zypp/repos.d/*.repo
/etc/zypp/repos.d/Games.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/games/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/OSC.repo:baseurl=https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tools/openSUSE_42.3/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/Trinity14-noarch.repo:baseurl=http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse42.3/trinity-r14/RPMS/noarch
/etc/zypp/repos.d/Trinity14.repo:baseurl=http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/opensuse42.3/trinity-r14/RPMS/x86_64
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-252ba42b.repo:
[http-download.opensuse.org-252ba42b]
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-252ba42b.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Emulators:/Wine:/STABLE/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-2674e8c6.repo:
[http-download.opensuse.org-2674e8c6]
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-2674e8c6.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Miuku/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-385545ed.repo:
[http-download.opensuse.org-385545ed]
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-385545ed.repo:name=openSUSE:Leap:42.3:Update
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-385545ed.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Leap:/42.3:/Update/standard/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-39c8c023.repo:
[http-download.opensuse.org-39c8c023]
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-39c8c023.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Publishing/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-4784b6cf.repo:
[http-download.opensuse.org-4784b6cf]
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-4784b6cf.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/libraries:/c_c%2B%2B/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-85b241d0.repo:
[http-download.opensuse.org-85b241d0]
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-85b241d0.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_Leap_42.2/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-92b8fa02.repo:
[http-download.opensuse.org-92b8fa02]
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-92b8fa02.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/system:/packagemanager/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-aff39bb5.repo:
[http-download.opensuse.org-aff39bb5]
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-aff39bb5.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/libraries:/c_c%2B%2B/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-d7c190d1.repo:
[http-download.opensuse.org-d7c190d1]
/etc/zypp/repos.d/http-download.opensuse.org-d7c190d1.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/systemsmanagement:/saltstack/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0.repo:[openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0]
/etc/zypp/repos.d/openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0.repo:name=openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0
/etc/zypp/repos.d/opensuse-guide.org-repo.repo:[opensuse-guide.org-repo]
/etc/zypp/repos.d/opensuse-guide.org-repo.repo:baseurl=http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/packman.inode.at-suse.repo:baseurl=http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Leap_42.3/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-debug-non-oss.repo:name=openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug-Non-Oss
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-debug-non-oss.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-debug-update-non-oss.repo:name=openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug-Non-Oss
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-debug-update-non-oss.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-debug-update.repo:name=openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-debug-update.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/42.3/oss/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-debug.repo:name=openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-debug.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-non-oss.repo:name=openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Non-Oss
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-non-oss.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-oss.repo:name=openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Oss
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-oss.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-source-non-oss.repo:name=openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source-Non-Oss
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-source-non-oss.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/non-oss/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-source.repo:name=openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-source.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/42.3/repo/oss/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-update-non-oss.repo:name=openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Non-Oss
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-update-non-oss.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/non-oss/
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-update.repo:name=openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update
/etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-update.repo:baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.3/oss/
BTW, the 42.3 kernel has been updated 3 times since the one you are
running.
3:26 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Strange messages at startup for one account
Leslie Turriff composed on 2018-04-25 21:10 (UTC-0500):
Felix Miata wrote:
> Leslie Turriff composed on 2018-04-25 17:48
(UTC-0500):
> > There is no ~/.trinity in this account;
Trinity is using ~/.kde (which
> > seems strange and frightening).
> That can't be right.
@21:03:36,root@pinto
~
$ ls -la /home/leslie | grep -i trinity
@21:04:27,root@pinto
What I meant was you can't expect TDE to work right without it.
~
$
So, you have a FACL[1] applying to leslie, but not the others. Something in FACL
setting(s) has apparently blocked creation of ~/.trinity, and you're lucky TDE
works as well as it does by reading ~/.kde, which it only should do until it has
been migrated to ~/.trinity.
[1]
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45160961/file-directory-permissions-tra…
man acl
Other than what I just typed or pasted, I don't have familiarity with FACLs.
If you don't want to mess with trying to get a handle on FACL ATM, try creating
it as root and changing owner and group to leslie.users, and if apparently
successful, logging into a TDE session.
When working with ordinary permissions issues, I find it immensely easy to have
them fully on display via mc in long file list mode, which causes the screen to
be constantly refreshed with what resembles output from ls -al. I really can't
accomplish much if mc isn't installed. Generally I have 2-3 mc sessions open
when running any GUI, and one or more if working only on the vttys.
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get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation)
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
What does ls -l /home/ list for permissions? Is
each
the same for all users?
@17:40:51,root@pinto
~
$ ls -l /home/
total 80K
drwxr-xr-x+ 180 leslie users 16K 2018-04-25 17:40 leslie
drwxr-xr-x 25 test users 4.0K 2018-04-24 02:35 test
drwxr-xr-x 23 turriff users 4.0K 2018-04-25 18:15 turriff
drwxr-xr-x 7 zVMer osc 274 2017-09-07 17:43 zVMer
5:23 a.m.
New subject: [Users] Strange messages at startup for one account
On 2018-04-25 22:26:33 Felix Miata wrote:
So, you have a FACL[1] applying to leslie, but not the
others. Something in
FACL setting(s) has apparently blocked creation of ~/.trinity, and you're
lucky TDE works as well as it does by reading ~/.kde, which it only should
do until it has been migrated to ~/.trinity.
[1]
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45160961/file-directory-permissions-tra
iling-drwxr-xr-x man acl
Other than what I just typed or pasted, I don't have familiarity with
FACLs.
That ACL merely allows a specific account read and execute authority
over /home/leslie. I can't see how that could affect the running of
r14-xdg-update within the leslie account.
If there's a simpler way to do this than via an ACL I'll be happy to know it.
2:12 a.m.
New subject: [Users] Strange messages at startup for one account
@21:11:28,root@pinto
~
$ zypper lr
Repository priorities in effect:
(See 'zypper lr -P' for details)
97 (raised priority) : 2 repositories
98 (raised priority) : 3 repositories
99 (default priority) : 20 repositories
# | Alias |
Name | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh
---+-------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+---------+-----------+--------
1 | Games |
Games | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
2 | Local |
Local | Yes | ( p) Yes | Yes
3 | OSC |
Tools | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
4 | Trinity14 |
Trinity14 | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
5 | Trinity14-noarch |
Trinity14-noarch | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
6 | http-download.opensuse.org-252ba42b |
Emulators:Wine:STABLE | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
7 | http-download.opensuse.org-2674e8c6 |
home:Miuku | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
8 | http-download.opensuse.org-385545ed |
openSUSE:Leap:42.3:Update | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
9 | http-download.opensuse.org-39c8c023 |
Publishing | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
10 | http-download.opensuse.org-4784b6cf |
devel:libraries:c_c++ | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
11 | http-download.opensuse.org-85b241d0 |
KDE:KDE3 | No | ---- | ----
12 | http-download.opensuse.org-92b8fa02 |
system:packagemanager | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
13 | http-download.opensuse.org-aff39bb5 |
devel:libraries:c_c++ | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
14 | http-download.opensuse.org-d7c190d1 |
systemsmanagement:saltstack | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
15 | openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0 |
openSUSE-Leap-42.3-0 | No | ---- | ----
16 | opensuse-guide.org-repo | Libdvdcss
Repository | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
17 | packman.inode.at-suse | Packman
Repository | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
18 | repo-debug |
openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
19 | repo-debug-non-oss |
openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Debug-Non-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
20 | repo-debug-update |
openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
21 | repo-debug-update-non-oss |
openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
22 | repo-non-oss |
openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Non-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
23 | repo-oss |
openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
24 | repo-source |
openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
25 | repo-source-non-oss |
openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Source-Non-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
26 | repo-update |
openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
27 | repo-update-non-oss |
openSUSE-Leap-42.3-Update-Non-Oss | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes
On 2018-04-25 18:20:23 Felix Miata wrote:
Leslie Turriff composed on 2018-04-25 17:48
(UTC-0500):
There is no ~/.trinity in this account; Trinity
is using ~/.kde (which
seems strange and frightening).
That can't be right. What does ls -l /home/ list for permissions? Is each
the same for all users?
Do each of *.repo in /etc/zypp/repos.d/ point to 42.3?
BTW, the 42.3 kernel has been updated 3 times since the one you are
running.
6:45 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: [Users] Re: [Users] Strange messages at startup for one account
Hi!
Am Donnerstag, 26. April 2018 schrieb Leslie Turriff:
If you did it as user on the console and no error message showed
up, then you are most likely fine.
Nik
--
Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA,
CIA ...
There is no ~/.trinity in this account; Trinity is
using ~/.kde (which seems
strange and frightening).
Well, then rename it to _kde, log out and in again. What happens? maybe there is a .kderc,
too. If it is, rename it to _kderc.
Oh, you did
already a "chown USERNAME:GROUPNAME ~USERNAME" as root, didn't
you?
No. I am assuming that all of these operations are to be performed in the
affected account.
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