17 Dec
2021
17 Dec
'21
8:25 p.m.
Okay, so I managed to install Devuan Chimaera on my laptop. (Suddenly I
remember why I hate other desktops!) After I got the system set up, I tried
install the basic Trinity packages. (I copied my list from my desktop, which
is Beowulf, but I changed my sources.list over to Chimaera/Bullseye.) I
expect that some packages will change, but I keep a list of what I install,
and in what order, so that it's easier to move over to a new machine. Or so
one hopes ...
So when I tried to install the basic Trinity packages, I kept getting an error
message about unmet dependencies. Gradually I whittled down my list to just
three packages: tde-trinity tdebase-trinity tdm-trinity. But I keep getting
this same error message.
The follow packages have unmet dependencies:
tdemultimedia-trinity : Depends: libarts1-xine-trinity
(>=4:14.0.11-0debian11.0.0.+0) but it is not installable
But nowhere am I (yet) trying to install either of these packages! Maybe they
are included in one of those that I am trying to install, but this message
doesn't make sense.
Help please ...
Bill
17 Dec
17 Dec
8:35 p.m.
On 17/12/2021 20:25, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
The follow packages have unmet dependencies:
tdemultimedia-trinity : Depends: libarts1-xine-trinity
(>=4:14.0.11-0debian11.0.0.+0) but it is not installable
Did you try a dry run on libarts1-xine-trinity to see what that gives you?
--
Michael Howard.
8:47 p.m.
On Friday 17 December 2021 12:35:51 Michael Howard via tde-users wrote:
On 17/12/2021 20:25, William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
Thanks for that quick response.
Actually, my plodding stupidity has managed to resolve this part of the
mystery pretty quickly.
I do recall some others on the list recommending that I use aptitude instead
of just apt-get. But old habits die hard, y'know? I've tried it before, but
never realized much advantage, and I like working with my stone tools.
Anyway, so aptitude got rid of this snag. Once I have rebooted into my Trinity
desktop, and get a little further into building a new system, we'll see how
it goes.
Bill
The follow packages have unmet dependencies:
tdemultimedia-trinity : Depends: libarts1-xine-trinity
(>=4:14.0.11-0debian11.0.0.+0) but it is not installable
Did you try a dry run on libarts1-xine-trinity to see what that gives you?
9:16 p.m.
On Friday 17 December 2021 12:35:51 Michael Howard via tde-users wrote:
On 17/12/2021 20:25, William Morder via tde-users
wrote:
Oh yeah, duh, about Whonix. I wasn't sure that you were the same Michael,
because that email didn't give your surname.
I played around with Whonix, and I would like to keep trying, but while I have
time to build a new machine and move my stuff around, I do eventually have to
move out of here, and that means that I will need a working laptop for
travel. I tried out the new Debian, but I keep forgetting about the non-free
packages. For some reason, Devuan has managed to make this part easier, by
providing that choice in the installation process. With Debian, I have to
search for the discs with non-free packages, or try to figure out what my
wireless requires.
Interesting to me is that I don't recall using *any* non-free packages when
installing my desktop. And then I remembered, I have an old C.Crane WiFire
antenna, more than ten years old, a little beat-up from travel, but still
going strong. But my desktop can't plug in anywhere, so that's how I get my
wifi to work here. I only need those zd1211 packages, whatever they're
called, and I am good to go. So when I pack up my desktop and move everything
over to my laptop, it will be interesting to see if I can use just my antenna
without any non-free packages.
Bill
The follow packages have unmet dependencies:
tdemultimedia-trinity : Depends: libarts1-xine-trinity
(>=4:14.0.11-0debian11.0.0.+0) but it is not installable
Did you try a dry run on libarts1-xine-trinity to see what that gives you? 
8:46 p.m.
On Friday 17 December 2021 02:25:59 pm William Morder via tde-users wrote:
I tried
install the basic Trinity packages. (I copied my list from my desktop,
which is Beowulf, but I changed my sources.list over to Chimaera/Bullseye.)
Hi Bill,
I must say I'm confused...
Why not just install the entire TDE ecosystem and be done with it?
sudo apt-get update
sudo aptitude install tde-trinity
Sure you've installed crap you might never use, but it's just disk space?
Even if you kept the 128 GB SSD, it's just not going to matter?
Did I miss something?
Best,
Michael
Ref:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Devuan_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst…
PS: Did you get the private mail, Date: 12/12/21 21:32?
8:59 p.m.
On Friday 17 December 2021 12:46:33 Michael wrote:
On Friday 17 December 2021 02:25:59 pm William Morder
via tde-users wrote:
I don't so much mind downloading unneeded packages, as I can always delete
them, and cut them out of the loop in later installations. What I mind is
getting a message that doesn't make sense. I never tried to install those
packages.
Anyway, yeah, if there is a way to download ALL of Trinity, without picking
through the packages, that would make life simpler. When I started doing
this, it was apt-get only, and I built my system by hit-and-miss, picking and
choosing. But now that I've got it running, I still like to know what goes
into making the sausage; I don't just want to trust that everything gets
installed without being able to inspect it.
Regarding private emails, no problem, except I don't recall it. Just now got
the private email dated today; if there is another on that date, then maybe
it got marked as spam, or got sent into the Trinity mailing list folder, but
I did catch it.
Let's see ...
Bill
I tried
install the basic Trinity packages. (I copied my list from my desktop,
which is Beowulf, but I changed my sources.list over to
Chimaera/Bullseye.)
Hi Bill,
I must say I'm confused...
Why not just install the entire TDE ecosystem and be done with it?
sudo apt-get update
sudo aptitude install tde-trinity
Sure you've installed crap you might never use, but it's just disk space?
Even if you kept the 128 GB SSD, it's just not going to matter?
Did I miss something?
Best,
Michael
Ref:
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Devuan_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst
ructions
PS: Did you get the private mail, Date: 12/12/21 21:32?
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