Is there a GUI update manager, anyhow for security updates, that can run in/on TDE? Ideally, with a "you have an update available" icon, that can be clicked on.
Thanks, Lisi
Hi,
The adept package does just this: adept-trinity
I used it for years and it never failed except when it is time to update the flash plugin because the repository for it is so slow that the adept installer times out.
Adept Notifier provides a system tray icon notifying the user of available updates. It will run Adept Updater for the user when clicked.
A nice piece of user friendly software :-) Just try it!
midi-pascal
On 15-07-07 05:38 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
Is there a GUI update manager, anyhow for security updates, that can run in/on TDE? Ideally, with a "you have an update available" icon, that can be clicked on.
Thanks, Lisi
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On Tuesday 07 July 2015 01:38:27 pm Lisi Reisz wrote:
Is there a GUI update manager, anyhow for security updates, that can run in/on TDE? Ideally, with a "you have an update available" icon, that can be clicked on.
Thanks, Lisi
The adept-notifier sits in ther notification area of the panel.
adept-batch-trinity - command line install for Adept adept-common-trinity - package manager for Trinity -- common files adept-installer-trinity - simple user interface for application management (for Trinity) adept-manager-trinity - package manager for Trinity adept-notifier-trinity - system tray notifier of available system updates adept-trinity - package management suite for Trinity adept-updater-trinity - system update tool for Trinity
On Tuesday 07 July 2015 22:59:14 Greg Madden wrote:
On Tuesday 07 July 2015 01:38:27 pm Lisi Reisz wrote:
Is there a GUI update manager, anyhow for security updates, that can run in/on TDE? Ideally, with a "you have an update available" icon, that can be clicked on.
Thanks, Lisi
The adept-notifier sits in ther notification area of the panel.
adept-batch-trinity - command line install for Adept adept-common-trinity - package manager for Trinity -- common files adept-installer-trinity - simple user interface for application management (for Trinity) adept-manager-trinity - package manager for Trinity adept-notifier-trinity - system tray notifier of available system updates adept-trinity - package management suite for Trinity adept-updater-trinity - system update tool for Trinity
Thanks, both.
This is part of my crusade to spread the word about Trinity (and Debian. But I am nervous of Jessie - not that I would admit it on the Debian list. I'm too young to die. ;-) ) I live, die and swear by aptitude at the CLI, but others don't.
I have several potential new recruits (three to be precise) - but an automatic updater is almost required for two of them.
Lisi
On Tuesday 07 July 2015 23:22:52 Lisi Reisz wrote:
but an automatic updater is almost required for two of them.
By "automatic" I mean "all you have to do is click", not "takes over and updates, including rebooting, when you are in the middle of a long and very intricate piece of work, which will need restarting after the reboot".
Lisi
This is exactly what adept does. You click on the adept notifier icon when it becomes red and the adep installer gui starts. And by the way I never had to reboot after an update under Linux...
midi-pascal
On 15-07-07 06:28 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 07 July 2015 23:22:52 Lisi Reisz wrote:
but an automatic updater is almost required for two of them.
By "automatic" I mean "all you have to do is click", not "takes over and updates, including rebooting, when you are in the middle of a long and very intricate piece of work, which will need restarting after the reboot".
Lisi
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On Tuesday 07 July 2015 23:45:14 midi-pascal wrote:
This is exactly what adept does. You click on the adept notifier icon when it becomes red and the adep installer gui starts. And by the way I never had to reboot after an update under Linux...
Except after a kernel upgrade.
Sorry.. I forgot the smiley! I was thinking of what automatic means to The Other OS. <shudder> And I have come across someone who wanted this in Linux. :-?
Lisi
midi-pascal
On 15-07-07 06:28 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 07 July 2015 23:22:52 Lisi Reisz wrote:
but an automatic updater is almost required for two of them.
By "automatic" I mean "all you have to do is click", not "takes over and updates, including rebooting, when you are in the middle of a long and very intricate piece of work, which will need restarting after the reboot".
Lisi
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On 15-07-07 07:07 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 07 July 2015 23:45:14 midi-pascal wrote:
This is exactly what adept does. You click on the adept notifier icon when it becomes red and the adep installer gui starts. And by the way I never had to reboot after an update under Linux...
Except after a kernel upgrade.
Not even! You can continue your work until you are ready to reboot - one year later if you want :-) Only a dist-upgrade forces a reboot - and you have no choice to delay it -
Sorry.. I forgot the smiley! I was thinking of what automatic means to The Other OS. <shudder> And I have come across someone who wanted this in Linux. :-?
Wow! Not a Linux aficionado for sure... Anyway everyone has the right to reboot her computer every five minutes if she wants to. Mine has been up for 285 days now... because I suffered a power failure last year. Funny life!
midi-pascal
Lisi
midi-pascal
On 15-07-07 06:28 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 07 July 2015 23:22:52 Lisi Reisz wrote:
but an automatic updater is almost required for two of them.
By "automatic" I mean "all you have to do is click", not "takes over and updates, including rebooting, when you are in the middle of a long and very intricate piece of work, which will need restarting after the reboot".
Lisi
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Quoth midi-pascal.....
Mine has been up for 285 days now... because I suffered a power failure last year.
Get a UPS :-)
# uptime 07:44:49 up 802 days, 12:27, 11 users, load average: 2.32, 2.44, 1.91
On Wednesday 08 July 2015 08.44:55 Russell Brown wrote:
# uptime 07:44:49 up 802 days, 12:27, 11 users, load average: 2.32, 2.44, 1.91
If it's a server, fine. I happen not to work at home, which means that when I am at work (and when I sleep) my computer is doing nothing.
I find wasting ressources 75% of the time for the sake of uptime is silly - so I belong to those who boot at least once a day, often more.
And I got a kernel panic the other day, while copying big files on hfs+...
Thierry
Russell Brown composed on 2015-07-08 07:44 (UTC+0100):
Quoth midi-pascal.....
Mine has been up for 285 days now... because I suffered a power failure last year.
Get a UPS :-)
# uptime 07:44:49 up 802 days, 12:27, 11 users, load average: 2.32, 2.44, 1.91
Nice theory. Power outages longer than momentary here average about 4X-5X as long as UPS battery charge. It's been years since I enjoyed as much as 200 days uptime. UPS batteries here average little more than 802 days between need to replace them. 3 times in the past 36 months I've had them expire *during* their warranty periods. I spend more on UPS batteries and UPSes than on PCs, but in part that's because they protect the power supplies and motherboards from derelict power company service.
On Wednesday 08 July 2015 03:39:07 Felix Miata wrote:
Russell Brown composed on 2015-07-08 07:44 (UTC+0100):
Quoth midi-pascal.....
Mine has been up for 285 days now... because I suffered a power failure last year.
Get a UPS :-)
# uptime 07:44:49 up 802 days, 12:27, 11 users, load average: 2.32, 2.44, 1.91
Nice theory. Power outages longer than momentary here average about 4X-5X as long as UPS battery charge. It's been years since I enjoyed as much as 200 days uptime. UPS batteries here average little more than 802 days between need to replace them. 3 times in the past 36 months I've had them expire *during* their warranty periods. I spend more on UPS batteries and UPSes than on PCs, but in part that's because they protect the power supplies and motherboards from derelict power company service.
Just one of the reasons there is a 20 kw nat gas burning standby in the back yard. Its running and I haven't seen the blink long before the ups batteries are used up. However, for other reasons, uptime is about 2 weeks right now.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 July 2015 01.07:30 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Sorry.. I forgot the smiley! I was thinking of what automatic means to The Other OS. <shudder> And I have come across someone who wanted this in Linux. :-?
Lisi
This is a filthy habit brought by Windows, MacOS, Android and iOS. Besides bugfixes, the three companies behind these OS don't want (and obviously don't expect) their users to understand what and why is updated - as I guess many "updates" are _not_ in the interrest of the user, and others would reveal how badly their software were programmed.
We allready had the "have you checked for a virus" question any time we asked a vendor about a problem, now comes the "did you upgrade to the latest version". I have many times read about some software: "it has not been updated in the last six month, so it's probably dead". When will someone start advertising his work with "it's so good I did not need to update it in a year"?
And what about all these people who update and then fill the forums with compains about what no more works?
Just for fun, I've upgraded my (only) Windows (7) setup to Windows 10 (technical preview): given the number of (old) programs than won't run on 10 I can tell you the update in anything but "free" as far as I am concerned. As this was done on a cloned harddisk, I was quickly back to normal. This Windows set up will stay at 7 and continue to be used once a year (on hollydays, when I can go back to infancy and replay games of the 20th century :))
I have more problems with Android - I spend more time selecting all the apps I have to detach from Market so that they are _not_ updated than for the update itself.
Although I don't like Ubuntu, I start to hope for an Ubuntu for phones soon...
Thierry
Am Mittwoch, 8. Juli 2015 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
On Tuesday 07 July 2015 23:45:14 midi-pascal wrote:
This is exactly what adept does. You click on the adept notifier icon when it becomes red and the adep installer gui starts. And by the way I never had to reboot after an update under Linux...
Except after a kernel upgrade.
Sorry.. I forgot the smiley! I was thinking of what automatic means to The Other OS. <shudder> And I have come across someone who wanted this in Linux. :-?
Lisi
Well, thanks to systemd this nasty usability bug will be ironed out.
"You have moved the mouse. Reboot or continue?"
Nik
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