Hi,
I recently downloaded and installed TDE on Ubuntu, and so far I'm liking the environment alot. I like how all the applications are integrated with each other. However, I am having issues with the Konqueror web browser, where many websites are not rendering properly. I have looked up the issue and found that the KHTML engine that is used by Konqueror has not been updated for some time and is behind the rendering errors. I have installed both Firefox and Chromium but none of them integrate well as Konqueror does.
On websites that work with Konqueror, I like the fact when I click on a video link, a picture, a file archive, a sound file, or any other type of file, it automatically opens up in the corresponding application and the program, Kaffine for example, starts streaming the video file. I cannot get the same kind of integration with Firefox or Chromium. I have tried setting the default RSS subscription program to Akregator, but it doesn't seem to redirect the request to that program. I have tried having video files open up in Kaffine, but the browser downloads the whole video first instead of opening up Kaffine and streaming it. One other minor complaint I have is that the interfaces don't match well with TDE either, as there doesn't seem to be a lot of QT based browsers that have up-to-date browser engines.
I was wondering if there are any plans on updating the KTML engine or Konqueror in general to work with modern websites and to have that great intergratedness that makes me like Konqueror. I would have been happy to work on this project myself but as I don't know how to code at all, this isn't a pheasble route for me.
Thanks for any info you may give, Paul
Paul wrote:
I was wondering if there are any plans on updating the KTML engine or Konqueror in general to work with modern websites and to have that great intergratedness that makes me like Konqueror. I would have been happy to work on this project myself but as I don't know how to code at all, this isn't a pheasble route for me.
Thanks for any info you may give, Paul
Hi Paul, I also think the KHTML needs an update, but the dev team behind TDE is really small and the priorities and focus are a bit different ATM. I think the best would be to file a bug, so that we keep an eye on it and whenever possible do something. I personally was thinking that it would be perhaps easier to use some third party web engine, but never had time to look into this any further. Perhaps someone from the developers knows more about the KHTML and the plans around it.
I hope this helps
regards
On Mon, 02 May 2016 08:14:52 +0200 deloptes deloptes@gmail.com wrote:
Paul wrote:
I was wondering if there are any plans on updating the KTML engine or Konqueror in general to work with modern websites and to have that great intergratedness that makes me like Konqueror. I would have been happy to work on this project myself but as I don't know how to code at all, this isn't a pheasble route for me.
Thanks for any info you may give, Paul
Hi Paul, I also think the KHTML needs an update, but the dev team behind TDE is really small and the priorities and focus are a bit different ATM. I think the best would be to file a bug, so that we keep an eye on it and whenever possible do something. I personally was thinking that it would be perhaps easier to use some third party web engine, but never had time to look into this any further. Perhaps someone from the developers knows more about the KHTML and the plans around it.
There was some discussion at one point about replacing or supplementing KHTML with a different engine, most likely Webkit. Lack of developer manpower kept the idea from being tackled at the time. To my knowledge, no one is currently working on this.
E. Liddell
Helo,
I think that Konqueror is not a navigator, but a pretty good files manager, even if some improves are necessary.
I cannot use Konqueror as a navigator, the result of the majority of the sites is too bad.
Have a good day.
André
On Monday 02 May 2016 12:00:51 andre_debian@numericable.fr wrote:
I think that Konqueror is not a navigator
It used to be a superb one. For years it was my browser of choice. It could be again, but it is not as high a priority as keeping other things going, because there are other good browsers. There is no other e.g. Amarok!!! (Well, nothing that rivals Amarok-Trinity.) And the developers can't do everything.
Lisi
On Monday 02 May 2016 13:09:56 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 02 May 2016 12:00:51 andre_debian@numericable.fr wrote:
I think that Konqueror is not a navigator
It used to be a superb one. For years it was my browser of choice. It could be again, but it is not as high a priority as keeping other things going, because there are other good browsers. There is no other e.g. Amarok!!! (Well, nothing that rivals Amarok-Trinity.) And the developers can't do everything. Lisi :
I'm asking myself how you can consider that Konqueror "is a superb one" navigator.
Most of sites don't work properly with Konqueror, and work perfectly on Firefox or Seamonkey...
And the developers can't do everything :
I never asked the developers to change Konqueror, just write that it is good for files manager and not as navigator.
André
On Monday 02 May 2016 13:35:50 andre_debian@numericable.fr wrote:
I'm asking myself how you can consider that Konqueror "is a superb one" navigator.
You are misquoting me. I did not say "is a superb navigator" , in spite of your misleading quotation marks. I said: "It *used* to be a superb one."
Do look at the tense. Not to mention the fact that one man's meat is another man's poison.*
Lisi * https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=one+man%27s+meat+is+another+man%27s+poison...
On 05/02/2016 08:54 PM, E. Liddell wrote:
Hi Paul,
I also think the KHTML needs an update, but the dev team behind TDE is really small and the priorities and focus are a bit different ATM. I think the best would be to file a bug, so that we keep an eye on it and whenever possible do something. I personally was thinking that it would be perhaps easier to use some third party web engine, but never had time to look into this any further. Perhaps someone from the developers knows more about the KHTML and the plans around it.
There was some discussion at one point about replacing or supplementing KHTML with a different engine, most likely Webkit. Lack of developer manpower kept the idea from being tackled at the time. To my knowledge, no one is currently working on this.
E. Liddell
I think this pretty much summarizes the situation... Updating (and keeping updated) Konqueror as a web browser is way beyond the current developers' possibility at the moment. Honestly I can't see this happening, not even in the long term unless someone else comes along and starts working on it. But again it would be a rather daunting task.
Cheers Michele
The solution is Qt4's Webkit bindings wrapped into konqueror. I do not know what effort this would take but it has been discussed at length before. Probably the best solution. i've written a gtk wrapper for webkit before and it was not very frustrating, but rather straight forwards. I image Qt wrapper would be similar. However, I do not know the state of TQt and Qt4, or much about how Konquerors plugin system works so... maybe a better question for kb9vqf
On 1 May 2016 at 19:16, Paul pmezey99@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I recently downloaded and installed TDE on Ubuntu, and so far I'm liking the environment alot. I like how all the applications are integrated with each other. However, I am having issues with the Konqueror web browser, where many websites are not rendering properly. I have looked up the issue and found that the KHTML engine that is used by Konqueror has not been updated for some time and is behind the rendering errors. I have installed both Firefox and Chromium but none of them integrate well as Konqueror does.
On websites that work with Konqueror, I like the fact when I click on a video link, a picture, a file archive, a sound file, or any other type of file, it automatically opens up in the corresponding application and the program, Kaffine for example, starts streaming the video file. I cannot get the same kind of integration with Firefox or Chromium. I have tried setting the default RSS subscription program to Akregator, but it doesn't seem to redirect the request to that program. I have tried having video files open up in Kaffine, but the browser downloads the whole video first instead of opening up Kaffine and streaming it. One other minor complaint I have is that the interfaces don't match well with TDE either, as there doesn't seem to be a lot of QT based browsers that have up-to-date browser engines.
I was wondering if there are any plans on updating the KTML engine or Konqueror in general to work with modern websites and to have that great intergratedness that makes me like Konqueror. I would have been happy to work on this project myself but as I don't know how to code at all, this isn't a pheasble route for me.
Thanks for any info you may give, Paul
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