Ran Synaptic and reinstalled great gobs of TDE -- libs, base, anything that looked as if it might be pertinent. Logged out. Logged back in. Menu restored. If this message sends, then that problem is also solved. Thanks, Mavridis! Oh, and still got the r14 errors, all three of them. In that I rarely reboot -- though they're an annoyance when I do, and they indicate something wrong -- I can live with them. btw, I don't think that I'm operating packages from different versions of TDE, though if something got dropped from the TDE distribution I suppose I'd still have an older version. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/