Re: Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: New Thread: USB Hard drive not being recognized after first plug out.
On Tuesday 11 December 2018 18:12:00 Kate Draven wrote:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
If you are a "luck" person and you run Windooz10, then you find that this multi gadget protocol is broken since ~ 1 year ... hail progress!
don't know why corp is doing windows - I think it is pure burning of money ... I got one v10 few months ago and it is still laying on my desk unused. But I have no idea how this is working with cameras there. The corp is paying for it to stay there on the desk and do some work. It is doing it more or less good on its own. I alaways have to repeat myself what Linuz Torvald said about it - something like a very good company, but the problem is they make crappy software. So ... times go by and some things never change - amazing.
At least on *nix you can fix stuff like this, even when redhat tries hard to break it.
Well for the Windows, you have the windows admin - a person that should be admired for the skill to support "crappy software" :) and keep the universe in balance :) Honestly ... no idea how those guys have the patience. I had to factory restore one PC lately for a friend, because it got unusable after 6y of use ... I think it took 8h or more to install all the updates or at least to try to ... with numerous reboots in between. I have not done this for years and it was impressive experience. In the mean time I could do a lot of work on the linux PC that was installed 15y ago. Amazing!
regards
Cheers Doc & deloptes, well observed, well said.
Several mates went out of business supporting Vista, Now, a few more are close to closing because of win10.
All I get at the shop are people bring in there machines to have data recovered after win8/10 died during an update (not so much win7).
I don't know how MS stays in business.
The os on this laptop, that I'm writing this email on, will be retired soon for Alistair Izzard's big daddy roll of PCLOS 64bit. Thank you very much Ali and to all.
The OS is Ark Linux 2008. It's more than 10 years old and it has served me well, great infact. It took 7 years to find a replacement.
Any linux, even a bad one, is always better than the best windows edition (or OSX but not to the same shocking degree).
Kate
Very well said Kate. Theres a reason I don't allow a windows box to keep its windows install more than a day or so, any longer and my patience gets exchanged for a 16 lb maul to put its hard drive out of its misery. Or a linux dvd gets put in along with a $40 60 gig SSD, getting a machine thats obviously faster, and its by by windows, it has not been good knowing you. Life for me at least, is not long enough to put up with that crappy software.
FWIW, I ran PCLOS for a while, but if what you need is not in the repo, forget about asking for it. Just a warning, but thats why I had to bail to Debian. I can usually get what I need. They, like others are short of man power, but I've not been told to go pound sand either.
Take care Kate.
Hi Gene!
It's likely your problem with pclos was it was 32bit. pclos doesn't support 32bit anymore, not for a long time. I think since 2015 or 16.
I have me test machines, data recovery machines, laptops and server all running Ali's Big Daddy rolls. It works great.
The only thing I don't like and it happens TDE under any distro. It's the constant reloading of the gui when I install software. I don't understand why it does that. Bug?
Kate
On Wednesday 12 December 2018 02:09:26 Kate Draven wrote:
On Tuesday 11 December 2018 18:12:00 Kate Draven wrote:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
If you are a "luck" person and you run Windooz10, then you find that this multi gadget protocol is broken since ~ 1 year ... hail progress!
don't know why corp is doing windows - I think it is pure burning of money ... I got one v10 few months ago and it is still laying on my desk unused. But I have no idea how this is working with cameras there. The corp is paying for it to stay there on the desk and do some work. It is doing it more or less good on its own. I alaways have to repeat myself what Linuz Torvald said about it - something like a very good company, but the problem is they make crappy software. So ... times go by and some things never change - amazing.
At least on *nix you can fix stuff like this, even when redhat tries hard to break it.
Well for the Windows, you have the windows admin - a person that should be admired for the skill to support "crappy software" :) and keep the universe in balance :) Honestly ... no idea how those guys have the patience. I had to factory restore one PC lately for a friend, because it got unusable after 6y of use ... I think it took 8h or more to install all the updates or at least to try to ... with numerous reboots in between. I have not done this for years and it was impressive experience. In the mean time I could do a lot of work on the linux PC that was installed 15y ago. Amazing!
regards
Cheers Doc & deloptes, well observed, well said.
Several mates went out of business supporting Vista, Now, a few more are close to closing because of win10.
All I get at the shop are people bring in there machines to have data recovered after win8/10 died during an update (not so much win7).
I don't know how MS stays in business.
The os on this laptop, that I'm writing this email on, will be retired soon for Alistair Izzard's big daddy roll of PCLOS 64bit. Thank you very much Ali and to all.
The OS is Ark Linux 2008. It's more than 10 years old and it has served me well, great infact. It took 7 years to find a replacement.
Any linux, even a bad one, is always better than the best windows edition (or OSX but not to the same shocking degree).
Kate
Very well said Kate. Theres a reason I don't allow a windows box to keep its windows install more than a day or so, any longer and my patience gets exchanged for a 16 lb maul to put its hard drive out of its misery. Or a linux dvd gets put in along with a $40 60 gig SSD, getting a machine thats obviously faster, and its by by windows, it has not been good knowing you. Life for me at least, is not long enough to put up with that crappy software.
FWIW, I ran PCLOS for a while, but if what you need is not in the repo, forget about asking for it. Just a warning, but thats why I had to bail to Debian. I can usually get what I need. They, like others are short of man power, but I've not been told to go pound sand either.
Take care Kate.
Hi Gene!
It's likely your problem with pclos was it was 32bit. pclos doesn't support 32bit anymore, not for a long time. I think since 2015 or 16.
I have me test machines, data recovery machines, laptops and server all running Ali's Big Daddy rolls. It works great.
The only thing I don't like and it happens TDE under any distro. It's the constant reloading of the gui when I install software. I don't understand why it does that. Bug?
Kate
No clue my dear girl Kate. Best I could do would still be a WAG. I do expect it to reformulate the gui's menu's, but the sort does fail occasionally. And it should force a reboot when libs are being replaced, that bit me 4 days back, crash/locked this machine and the machine I was logged into working on some gcode, had to dress and hit the shop building in 20F weather to reboot that one too, else amanda would have pestered be because it couldn't do the backup. Like Jackie Gleason was fond of saying, what a revoltin development that was. ;-)
Take care Kate.
Hi Kate, Guys,
On Wednesday 12 December 2018 07:09:26 Kate Draven wrote:
On Tuesday 11 December 2018 18:12:00 Kate Draven wrote:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
If you are a "luck" person and you run Windooz10, then you find that this multi gadget protocol is broken since ~ 1 year ... hail progress!
don't know why corp is doing windows - I think it is pure burning of money ... I got one v10 few months ago and it is still laying on my desk unused. But I have no idea how this is working with cameras there. The corp is paying for it to stay there on the desk and do some work. It is doing it more or less good on its own. I alaways have to repeat myself what Linuz Torvald said about it - something like a very good company, but the problem is they make crappy software. So ... times go by and some things never change - amazing.
At least on *nix you can fix stuff like this, even when redhat tries hard to break it.
Well for the Windows, you have the windows admin - a person that should be admired for the skill to support "crappy software" :) and keep the universe in balance :) Honestly ... no idea how those guys have the patience. I had to factory restore one PC lately for a friend, because it got unusable after 6y of use ... I think it took 8h or more to install all the updates or at least to try to ... with numerous reboots in between. I have not done this for years and it was impressive experience. In the mean time I could do a lot of work on the linux PC that was installed 15y ago. Amazing!
regards
Cheers Doc & deloptes, well observed, well said.
Several mates went out of business supporting Vista, Now, a few more are close to closing because of win10.
All I get at the shop are people bring in there machines to have data recovered after win8/10 died during an update (not so much win7).
I don't know how MS stays in business.
The os on this laptop, that I'm writing this email on, will be retired soon for Alistair Izzard's big daddy roll of PCLOS 64bit. Thank you very much Ali and to all.
The OS is Ark Linux 2008. It's more than 10 years old and it has served me well, great infact. It took 7 years to find a replacement.
Any linux, even a bad one, is always better than the best windows edition (or OSX but not to the same shocking degree).
Kate
Very well said Kate. Theres a reason I don't allow a windows box to keep its windows install more than a day or so, any longer and my patience gets exchanged for a 16 lb maul to put its hard drive out of its misery. Or a linux dvd gets put in along with a $40 60 gig SSD, getting a machine thats obviously faster, and its by by windows, it has not been good knowing you. Life for me at least, is not long enough to put up with that crappy software.
FWIW, I ran PCLOS for a while, but if what you need is not in the repo, forget about asking for it. Just a warning, but thats why I had to bail to Debian. I can usually get what I need. They, like others are short of man power, but I've not been told to go pound sand either.
Take care Kate.
Hi Gene!
It's likely your problem with pclos was it was 32bit. pclos doesn't support 32bit anymore, not for a long time. I think since 2015 or 16.
I have me test machines, data recovery machines, laptops and server all running Ali's Big Daddy rolls. It works great.
The only thing I don't like and it happens TDE under any distro. It's the constant reloading of the gui when I install software. I don't understand why it does that. Bug?
Kate
TDE stopped doing that when I went with Q4OS. That refreshing was quite annoying !
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 17:11:51 +0000 Baron baron@linuxmaniac.net wrote:
On Wednesday 12 December 2018 07:09:26 Kate Draven wrote:
The only thing I don't like and it happens TDE under any distro. It's the constant reloading of the gui when I install software. I don't understand why it does that. Bug?
TDE stopped doing that when I went with Q4OS. That refreshing was quite annoying !
Hmmm. I can't recall ever seeing that (just tested installing then removing kdict to confirm). Back in the KDE3 days, adding new programs occasionally required a restart of the DCOP server, but I don't remember that affecting the entire GUI.
So "any distro" apparently doesn't include Gentoo, but we're an odd distro out in so many ways that it's hard to tell why without more information.
E. Liddell
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