Greetings all; kded crashed while I was fixing dinner, and everything was all wonky with the menu's, flickering. jumping up and down one line and stuck on the top favorite if clicked on. So I found me a root terminal and rebooted. kded crashed on top of the login. I dismissed it and logged in. System acts normal and theres a kded proc running. Anybody got a clue what thats telling me? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>