8 Nov
2021
8 Nov
'21
6:41 p.m.
Hello,
Wicd (Wireless Interface Connection Daemon),
is a very good graphic tool to connect to a WiFi,
with the quality of the signal (dbm), number of bars,
very pratical and easy to use...
Unfortunately, it is not implemented any more with
the last Linux distributions, as Debian Bullseye...
Is it possible for the Trinity community to create
a similar tool ?
Interfaces are : GTK et ncurses, and Python language,
and not sure, package from Gnome desktop.
Thanks, Cheers.
André
8 Nov
8 Nov
7:51 p.m.
If memory serves, I believe wicd was shipped with Devuan as their main graphic tool for
the wireless.
You should have a look at Devuan if this tool is still provided; if not, you can take the
last wicd package from the Debian archive and try to build It on your computer.
I don't know if wicd works with Python3/Py3GTK though...
7:54 p.m.
Anno domini 2021 Mon, 08 Nov 19:51:14 -0000
gregory guy via tde-users scripsit:
If memory serves, I believe wicd was shipped with
Devuan as their main graphic tool for the wireless.
You should have a look at Devuan if this tool is still provided; if not, you can take the
last wicd package from the Debian archive and try to build It on your computer.
I don't know if wicd works with Python3/Py3GTK though...
It does not. That's the reason why it was removed :(
Nik
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8:06 p.m.
I was afraid of this...anyhow I see the Wicd package is still available in Devuan
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=wicd&a…
10 Nov
10 Nov
9:18 a.m.
Am Montag, 8. November 2021 schrieb gregory guy via tde-users:
I was afraid of this...anyhow I see the Wicd package
is still
available in Devuan
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=wicd
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AIUI, it's supposed to be a transitional package to "smooth over"
switching to another network manager software during dist-upgrade or
installation.¹
However, there seems to be some effort to make wicd python3 compatible.²
Kind regards,
Stefan
[1]:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20211018.113256.a49d6fe9.en.html
[2]: https://reposcope.com/package/python3-wicd
11:09 a.m.
Oh, I see, so in the end no-one is providing this tool anymore, that's too bad, the UI
of Wicd was so nice and intuitive.
The work on Python3 is good news overall but I doubt they keep GTK2 as they're main
GUI toolkit, I guess they will be moving to GTK3 too, as a result the new Wicd(3)
wouldn't have the same look and feel anyway...
@André if you expect a clone like of Wicd in tqt3, you might profit from this near
Christmas time to send your gift/wishes list to TGW
(https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde/issues) because a user mail list is
not really the place for this. That request of yours will be forgotten in no time here.
Might takes years before a good soul steps in and fulfilled that request...
@Michele, see the work they been pouring into the move on Python3
https://git.launchpad.net/wicd/log/?h=python3
the 2to3 tool is definitely not enough to handle the workload, told you the move to Py3
code in TDE won't be made in a fortnight time frame...
12:14 p.m.
I, also, preferred Wicd to Network Manager.
So sad it has gone the way of all things.
Curt-
8 Nov
8 Nov
8:57 p.m.
Hello,
AFAIK Wicd is unfortunately as good as dead. It hasn't been maintained since somewhere
around 2014 (dommage, it is/was a really good tool). Slackware also got rid of it
recently.
The best analog in TDE at the moment would be TDENetworkManager, but if you're asking
about Wicd, you are probably trying to avoid NM anyway. I'm afraid most graphical
tools are nowadays based on it, unlike Wicd which supported various back ends and tools
and even user-defined scripts(!).
Would be definitely nice to see it coming alive, and it could probably even replace the
aging KWireless(?) in tdenetwork which does not even support WPA.
Meanwhile Wicd should still work well and you can even probably find packages for it after
a search or two. They host their code at Launchpad and the website pkgs.org might come
useful too.
--
Philippe
10:27 p.m.
ajh-valmer wrote:
Wicd (Wireless Interface Connection Daemon),
is a very good graphic tool to connect to a WiFi,
with the quality of the signal (dbm), number of bars,
very pratical and easy to use...
I am on the contrary opinion
Unfortunately, it is not implemented any more with
the last Linux distributions, as Debian Bullseye...
thanks god, finally!
Is it possible for the Trinity community to create
a similar tool ?
no, because there is the tdenetworkmanager or equivalent tools
For me tdenetworkmanager works perfectly well on Notebook or Desktop
Interfaces are : GTK et ncurses, and Python language,
and not sure, package from Gnome desktop.
GTK?!?! packages from Gnome desktop????
You have to confess your sins somewhere soon and clean up your soul (joking)
9 Nov
9 Nov
7:55 p.m.
On Monday 08 November 2021 23:27:07 deloptes wrote:
ajh-valmer wrote:
> Wicd (Wireless Interface Connection Daemon),
> is a very good graphic tool to connect to a WiFi,
> with the quality of the signal (dbm), number of bars,
> very pratical and easy to use...
> Unfortunately, it is not implemented any more with
> the last Linux distributions, as Debian Bullseye...
> Is it possible for the Trinity community to create
> a similar tool ?
no, because there is the tdenetworkmanager or
equivalent tools
For me tdenetworkmanager works perfectly well on Notebook
or Desktop :
Not so good than Wicd.
> Interfaces are : GTK et ncurses, and Python
language,
> and not sure, package from Gnome desktop.
GTK?!?! packages from Gnome desktop???? :
I
wrote "not sure", please, look above.
thanks god, finally! :
I am on the contrary opinion
You have to confess your sins somewhere soon and clean up your soul (joking)
Everyone's taste is different.
After all, there is no accounting for taste.
Wicd is a jewel, convenient and easy to use,
I'm disappointed that this tool has been discontinued since 2016.
You are an extremist, you assert too much :-)
9:24 p.m.
ajh-valmer wrote:
wicd == crap
wicd is GTK, GTK == crap
I see myself as pragmatic and purist. I am ready to compromise, but from
what I've seen coming from the Gnome corner it was always a disappointment.
The GTK apps I am using are 99% not Gnome apps.
For the record I used once wicd (I think it was 2008).
I do not understand why should tdenetworkmanager or NetworkManager itself be
bad.
It is actively maintained and works very well. I even used it to inspect
configuration of many servers in the past few years.
Of course it is your choice ... but saying wicd is cools is like saying a
FIAT model 1956 is cool. I agree it is cool, but belongs in the museum :)
I can only conclude you need an update ;-)
BR
no, because
there is the tdenetworkmanager or equivalent tools
For me tdenetworkmanager works perfectly well on Notebook
or Desktop :
Not so good than Wicd.
>
Interfaces are : GTK et ncurses, and Python language,
> and not sure, package from Gnome desktop.
GTK?!?! packages from Gnome desktop???? :
I wrote "not sure", please, look above.
thanks god,
finally! :
I am on the contrary opinion
You have to confess your sins somewhere soon and clean up your soul
(joking)
Everyone's taste is different.
After all, there is no accounting for taste.
Wicd is a jewel, convenient and easy to use,
I'm disappointed that this tool has been discontinued since 2016.
You are an extremist, you assert too much :-)
9:45 p.m.
On Tuesday 09 November 2021 22:24:28 deloptes wrote:
wicd == crap
wicd is GTK, GTK == crap
I see myself as pragmatic and purist. I am ready to compromise, but from
what I've seen coming from the Gnome corner it was always a disappointment.
The GTK apps I am using are 99% not Gnome apps.
For the record I used once wicd (I think it was 2008).
I do not understand why should tdenetworkmanager or NetworkManager itself be
bad.
It is actively maintained and works very well. I even used it to inspect
configuration of many servers in the past few years.
Of course it is your choice ... but saying wicd is cools is like saying a
FIAT model 1956 is cool. I agree it is cool, but belongs in the museum :)
I can only conclude you need an update ;-)
NetworkManager == crap
Wicd !== crap & FIAT model 1956
You are an extremist.
11 Nov
11 Nov
2:22 a.m.
New subject: Wicd [Let the Network Manager war begin!] :-) OT
On 2021-11-08 16:27:07 deloptes wrote:
ajh-valmer wrote:
Leslie
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Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.3 x86_64
Desktop Environment: Trinity
Qt: 3.5.0
TDE: R14.0.10
tde-config: 1.0
Wicd (Wireless Interface Connection Daemon),
is a very good graphic tool to connect to a WiFi,
with the quality of the signal (dbm), number of bars,
very pratical and easy to use...
I am on the contrary opinion
Unfortunately, it is not implemented any more
with
the last Linux distributions, as Debian Bullseye...
thanks god, finally!
Is it possible for the Trinity community to
create
a similar tool ?
no, because there is the tdenetworkmanager or equivalent tools
For me tdenetworkmanager works perfectly well on Notebook or Desktop
Interfaces are : GTK et ncurses, and Python
language,
and not sure, package from Gnome desktop.
GTK?!?! packages from Gnome desktop????
You have to confess your sins somewhere soon and clean up your soul
(joking)
6:53 a.m.
New subject: Wicd [Let the Network Manager war begin!] :-) OT
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2021-11-08 16:27:07 deloptes wrote:
Leslie, what is your contribution to the topic exactly?
ajh-valmer wrote:
Leslie Wicd (Wireless Interface Connection Daemon),
is a very good graphic tool to connect to a WiFi,
with the quality of the signal (dbm), number of bars,
very pratical and easy to use...
I am on the contrary opinion
Unfortunately, it is not implemented any more
with
the last Linux distributions, as Debian Bullseye...
thanks god, finally!
Is it possible for the Trinity community to
create
a similar tool ?
no, because there is the tdenetworkmanager or equivalent tools
For me tdenetworkmanager works perfectly well on Notebook or Desktop
Interfaces are : GTK et ncurses, and Python
language,
and not sure, package from Gnome desktop.
GTK?!?! packages from Gnome desktop????
You have to confess your sins somewhere soon and clean up your soul
(joking)
17 Nov
17 Nov
10:15 a.m.
New subject: Wicd [Let the Network Manager war begin!] :-) OT
On 2021-11-11 00:53:00 deloptes wrote:
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
I guess I accidentally sent the message too soon.
Leslie
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Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.3 x86_64
Desktop Environment: Trinity
Qt: 3.5.0
TDE: R14.0.10
tde-config: 1.0
On 2021-11-08 16:27:07 deloptes wrote:
Leslie, what is your contribution to the topic exactly? ajh-valmer wrote:
Leslie Wicd (Wireless Interface Connection Daemon),
is a very good graphic tool to connect to a WiFi,
with the quality of the signal (dbm), number of bars,
very pratical and easy to use...
I am on the contrary opinion
Unfortunately, it is not implemented any more
with
the last Linux distributions, as Debian Bullseye...
thanks god, finally!
Is it possible for the Trinity community to
create
a similar tool ?
no, because there is the tdenetworkmanager or equivalent tools
For me tdenetworkmanager works perfectly well on Notebook or Desktop
Interfaces are : GTK et ncurses, and Python
language,
and not sure, package from Gnome desktop.
GTK?!?! packages from Gnome desktop????
You have to confess your sins somewhere soon and clean up your soul
(joking) 
11:21 a.m.
New subject: Wicd [Let the Network Manager war begin!] :-) OT
On 2021-11-17 04:50:30 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
And replied much too late. Sometimes we just can't do anything right.
;-)
Bill
Sorry I'm not logged in 24x7.
Leslie
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Operating System: Linux
Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.3 x86_64
Desktop Environment: Trinity
Qt: 3.5.0
TDE: R14.0.10
tde-config: 1.0
Leslie, what is your contribution to the topic
exactly?
I guess I accidentally sent the message too soon.
Leslie
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