27 Jun
2011
27 Jun
'11
12:11 p.m.
Hi,
Is there a way to properly close a trinity session from tty?
I need it sometimes when my computers become weird, etc.
Nicolas
27 Jun
27 Jun
12:15 p.m.
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could you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
Am Montag, 27. Juni 2011 schrieb Nicolas Bercher:
Hi,
Is there a way to properly close a trinity session from tty?
I need it sometimes when my computers become weird, etc.
Nicolas
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12:41 p.m.
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On 27/06/2011 14:15, Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
could you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and
/etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
I don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf (it the way X should be
used nowadays) and
/var/log/Xorg.0.log is very very long, are you looking for a specific part of this log?
Can you explain a little more?
I think the answer might be around dcop but I can't understand where to find some doc
for
its options, etc.
Nicolas
Am Montag, 27. Juni 2011 schrieb Nicolas Bercher:
Hi,
Is there a way to properly close a trinity session from tty?
I need it sometimes when my computers become weird, etc.
Nicolas
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28 Jun
28 Jun
1:27 p.m.
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On 27/06/11 13:15, Mag. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Montag, 27. Juni 2011 schrieb Nicolas Bercher:
I use </etc/init.d/kdm-trinity stop> and </etc/init.d/kdm-trinity start>
Also I customise runlevels so desktop start is init 5 (Debian default is 2)
Hi,
Is there a way to properly close a trinity session from tty?
I need it sometimes when my computers become weird, etc.
Nicolas
29 Jun
29 Jun
7:06 p.m.
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On 28/06/2011 15:27, David Hare wrote:
I use </etc/init.d/kdm-trinity stop> and
</etc/init.d/kdm-trinity start>
OK, but I think this doesn't trigger the
session saving stuff and is more like
ctrl-alt-backspace to me.
Nicolas.
7:20 p.m.
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When you take a look at /opt/trinity/bin/startkde you find at line 568
kwrapper ksmserver $KDEWM
which starts kdeinit ... maybe killing kdeinit woild work?
Am Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2011 schrieb Nicolas Bercher:
On 28/06/2011 15:27, David Hare wrote:
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I use </etc/init.d/kdm-trinity stop> and
</etc/init.d/kdm-trinity start>
OK, but I think this doesn't trigger the session saving stuff and is more
like ctrl-alt-backspace to me.
Nicolas.
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28 Jun
28 Jun
7:24 a.m.
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Hi Nicolas,
if I do
$>ps ux
the first line is
/bin/sh /opt/trinity/bin/startkde
Killing startkde should do the job.
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3:12 p.m.
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On 28/06/2011 09:24, HHa wrote:
Hi Nicolas,
if I do
$>ps ux
the first line is
/bin/sh /opt/trinity/bin/startkde
Killing startkde should do the job.
So you mean this will ask startkde to properly
quit & save my current kde session?
I'll try it soon.
Thanks a lot.
Nicolas
29 Jun
29 Jun
7:03 a.m.
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Hi Nicolas,
& save my current kde session?
I cannot
guarantee that, therefore try
$>kill 15 ...
first. If this does not stop ked, use
$>kill 9 ...
What David suggested will certainly also help, but saving your session???
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8:13 a.m.
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On 29/06/2011 09:03, HHa wrote:
Hi Nicolas,
Not tried yet!
& save my current kde session?
I
cannot guarantee that, therefore try
$>kill 15 ... first. If this does not stop ked, use
$>kill 9 ...
What David suggested will certainly also help, but saving your session???
Yes, of
course kill 9 will not have the effect of saving up the session, etc.
Nicolas
3:33 p.m.
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"dcop ksmserver default logout"
followed by three parameters, the parameters mean:
First parameter: confirm
Obey the user's confirmation setting: -1
Don't confirm, shutdown without asking: 0
Always confirm, ask even if the user turned it off: 1
Second parameter: type
Select previous action or the default if it's the first time: -1
Only log out: 0
Log out and reboot the machine: 1
Log out and halt the machine: 2
Third parameter: mode
Select previous mode or the default if it's the first time: -1
Schedule a shutdown (halt or reboot) for the time all active sessions
have exited: 0
Shut down, if no sessions are active. Otherwise do nothing: 1
Force shutdown. Kill any possibly active sessions: 2
Pop up a dialog asking the user what to do if sessions are still active: 3
Example:
dcop ksmserver default logout 0 -1 -1
I can't test this on trinity but it worked in an old kde3 vm
3:43 p.m.
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On 29/06/2011 17:33, Christopher J Kleinschmidt wrote:
"dcop ksmserver default logout"
followed by three parameters, the parameters mean:
First parameter: confirm
Obey the user's confirmation setting: -1
Don't confirm, shutdown without asking: 0
Always confirm, ask even if the user turned it off: 1
Second parameter: type
Select previous action or the default if it's the first time: -1
Only log out: 0
Log out and reboot the machine: 1
Log out and halt the machine: 2
Third parameter: mode
Select previous mode or the default if it's the first time: -1
Schedule a shutdown (halt or reboot) for the time all active sessions
have exited: 0
Shut down, if no sessions are active. Otherwise do nothing: 1
Force shutdown. Kill any possibly active sessions: 2
Pop up a dialog asking the user what to do if sessions are still active: 3
Example:
dcop ksmserver default logout 0 -1 -1
I can't test this on trinity but it worked in an old kde3 vm
Thank you for such a detailed answer!
Where did you got the doc for it?
Nicolas
7:41 p.m.
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I didn't, I found it on an old message board. I didn't keep the link
but there wasn't any more info. I think the person that posted that
looked at the source, but don't really know.
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Nicolas Bercher <nbercher(a)yahoo.fr> wrote:
On 29/06/2011 17:33, Christopher J Kleinschmidt
wrote:
"dcop ksmserver default logout"
followed by three parameters, the parameters mean:
First parameter: confirm
Obey the user's confirmation setting: -1
Don't confirm, shutdown without asking: 0
Always confirm, ask even if the user turned it off: 1
Second parameter: type
Select previous action or the default if it's the first time: -1
Only log out: 0
Log out and reboot the machine: 1
Log out and halt the machine: 2
Third parameter: mode
Select previous mode or the default if it's the first time: -1
Schedule a shutdown (halt or reboot) for the time all active
sessions
have exited: 0
Shut down, if no sessions are active. Otherwise do nothing: 1
Force shutdown. Kill any possibly active sessions: 2
Pop up a dialog asking the user what to do if sessions are still
active: 3
Example:
dcop ksmserver default logout 0 -1 -1
I can't test this on trinity but it worked in an old kde3 vm
Thank you for such a detailed answer!
Where did you got the doc for it?
Nicolas
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1 Jul
1 Jul
7:56 a.m.
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On 29/06/2011 21:41, Christopher J Kleinschmidt wrote:
I didn't, I found it on an old message board. I
didn't keep the link
but there wasn't any more info. I think the person that posted that
looked at the source, but don't really know.
It seems to work only within the
kdm session (e.g. from konsole or xterm). From any tty
(the way I want to close the session), it triggers an error:
"ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!".
I will read the docs to figure out how to connect to the server (I think via a kind of kdm
session handler...?).
The main goal is to be able to correctly shutdown a kdm session from anywhere (almost via
ssh).
Nicolas
2:44 p.m.
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I think that individual dcop services are started per user, (multiple
per user is even possible). there should be a way to specify which
dcop to send a signal on. There is, look at the man page for dcop,
there is options like "--all-sessions" and "--all-users", also to be
more selective as to where to send the signal there is "--user" and
"--session". "--list-sessions" should help you find the combo you
need. If you need help with that, I'll have some time later today to
look closer.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Nicolas Bercher <nbercher(a)yahoo.fr> wrote:
On 29/06/2011 21:41, Christopher J Kleinschmidt
wrote:
I didn't, I found it on an old message board. I didn't keep the link
but there wasn't any more info. I think the person that posted that
looked at the source, but don't really know.
It seems to work only within the kdm session (e.g. from konsole or xterm).
From any tty (the way I want to close the session), it triggers an error:
"ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!".
I will read the docs to figure out how to connect to the server (I think via
a kind of kdm session handler...?).
The main goal is to be able to correctly shutdown a kdm session from
anywhere (almost via ssh).
Nicolas
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2 Jul
2 Jul
2:51 p.m.
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On 01/07/2011 16:44, Christopher J Kleinschmidt wrote:
I think that individual dcop services are started per
user, (multiple
per user is even possible). there should be a way to specify which
dcop to send a signal on. There is, look at the man page for dcop,
there is options like "--all-sessions" and "--all-users", also to be
more selective as to where to send the signal there is "--user" and
"--session". "--list-sessions" should help you find the combo you
need. If you need help with that, I'll have some time later today to
look closer.
I've asked for the session id for my username and got two different ones:
.DCOPserver_localhost__0
.DCOPserver_localhost__1
I tried the first one from the tty1 and it did the job really well:
dcop --session .DCOPserver_localhost__1 --user <mylogin> \
ksmserver default logout 0 -1 -1
I went back on tty7 to see the kdm session closing (I've got a large number of
kosonle,
kpdf, etc. windows openend, so it actually takes a while to save & close the
session).
Because having two dcop sessions worried me a little I rebooted to check if this could be
a lost session handle, but after rebooting, I still have two sessions for my user. I
don't really understand if this is normal or not and what the second session is for.
Maybe next time I'll halt the machine, I'll try to logout using the second session
handler, just to because I'm curious.
Thanks a lot for your help.
I was on the way to read the dcop man page but you suggested the good options before I
even type man ...
Nicolas
3:23 p.m.
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Glad I could help.
Have fun,
Chris
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Nicolas Bercher <nbercher(a)yahoo.fr> wrote:
On 01/07/2011 16:44, Christopher J Kleinschmidt
wrote:
I think that individual dcop services are started per user, (multiple
per user is even possible). there should be a way to specify which
dcop to send a signal on. There is, look at the man page for dcop,
there is options like "--all-sessions" and "--all-users", also to be
more selective as to where to send the signal there is "--user" and
"--session". "--list-sessions" should help you find the combo you
need. If you need help with that, I'll have some time later today to
look closer.
I've asked for the session id for my username and got two different ones:
.DCOPserver_localhost__0
.DCOPserver_localhost__1
I tried the first one from the tty1 and it did the job really well:
dcop --session .DCOPserver_localhost__1 --user <mylogin> \
ksmserver default logout 0 -1 -1
I went back on tty7 to see the kdm session closing (I've got a large number
of kosonle, kpdf, etc. windows openend, so it actually takes a while to save
& close the session).
Because having two dcop sessions worried me a little I rebooted to check if
this could be a lost session handle, but after rebooting, I still have two
sessions for my user. I don't really understand if this is normal or not
and what the second session is for.
Maybe next time I'll halt the machine, I'll try to logout using the second
session handler, just to because I'm curious.
Thanks a lot for your help.
I was on the way to read the dcop man page but you suggested the good
options before I even type man ...
Nicolas
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30 Jun
10:32 p.m.
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On 06/29/2011 09:43 AM, Nicolas Bercher wrote:
On 29/06/2011 17:33, Christopher J Kleinschmidt
wrote:
The best resource I've found for dcop is here:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-dcop/
HTH, Jim
"dcop ksmserver default logout"
followed by three parameters, the parameters mean:
First parameter: confirm
Obey the user's confirmation setting: -1
Don't confirm, shutdown without asking: 0
Always confirm, ask even if the user turned it off: 1
Second parameter: type
Select previous action or the default if it's the first time: -1
Only log out: 0
Log out and reboot the machine: 1
Log out and halt the machine: 2
Third parameter: mode
Select previous mode or the default if it's the first time: -1
Schedule a shutdown (halt or reboot) for the time all active sessions
have exited: 0
Shut down, if no sessions are active. Otherwise do nothing: 1
Force shutdown. Kill any possibly active sessions: 2
Pop up a dialog asking the user what to do if sessions are still
active: 3
Example:
dcop ksmserver default logout 0 -1 -1
I can't test this on trinity but it worked in an old kde3 vm
Thank you for such a detailed answer!
Where did you got the doc for it?
Nicolas
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