Hello to all.
I've found this overlay: https://github.com/serghei/gentoo-trinity-overlay
How do I use it within Gentoo? I've installed layman and of course "layman -L" doesn't show it. Can anyone tell me how to make its ebuilds visible?
I've also tried downloading from this link: https://github.com/serghei/gentoo-trinity-overlay/zipball/master and making a local overlay, but that didn't work -- only kde4 packages showed up in emerge --search. It's possible I have something masked, but I'd think if I had the overlay set up correctly, that they would show up in the search, just marked as uninstallable.
I don't need the whole TDE desktop -- I only want to get kpdf and gwenview working.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions or explanations.
Tony
On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 08:11:06 -0400 Tony Rein trein@cinci.rr.com wrote:
Hello to all.
I've found this overlay: https://github.com/serghei/gentoo-trinity-overlay
How do I use it within Gentoo? I've installed layman and of course "layman -L" doesn't show it. Can anyone tell me how to make its ebuilds visible?
I've also tried downloading from this link: https://github.com/serghei/gentoo-trinity-overlay/zipball/master and making a local overlay, but that didn't work -- only kde4 packages showed up in emerge --search. It's possible I have something masked, but I'd think if I had the overlay set up correctly, that they would show up in the search, just marked as uninstallable.
I don't need the whole TDE desktop -- I only want to get kpdf and gwenview working.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions or explanations.
The Trinity situation on Gentoo is . . . complicated.
First thing you need to know is that there is no complete Trinity overlay for Gentoo. Serghei's is dated and incomplete, and no longer being worked on. The one that Roman and I were working on (see http://wiki.hasnoname.de/tde:trinity-overlay_on_funtoo_gentoo ) is slightly less dated, but also incomplete. I don't think gwenview is available from either overlay at this time. I can give a shot at making an ebuild, but I have a lot on my plate right now, so it's going to be at least a week (assuming I can get it to work at all--we stalled out due to problems with the packages that were still using autotools to build). Neither overlay is part of the official listings, so layman doesn't have them.
You need to add either overlay locally by git-cloning or otherwise downloading it, then adding it to PORTDIR_OVERLAY in make.conf. You should then be able to emerge packages by explicitly specifying a version, e.g., for Serghei's overlay, "emerge =kpdf-3.5.13_p1183307", or for Roman's and mine, "emerge trinity-base/kpdf". Adding kde-base/kde-libs:4 and allied packages to package.mask may or may not be useful.
One last thing: if you're already using KDE3 from kde-sunset, system behaviour if you install Trinity packages on top of it is undefined (which is to say that no one's tried it, but there's a good chance it will break something).
Hope that helps.
On 07/08/2012 10:15 AM, E. Liddell wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 08:11:06 -0400 Tony Rein trein@cinci.rr.com wrote:
Hello to all.
I've found this overlay: https://github.com/serghei/gentoo-trinity-overlay
How do I use it within Gentoo? I've installed layman and of course "layman -L" doesn't show it. Can anyone tell me how to make its ebuilds visible?
I've also tried downloading from this link: https://github.com/serghei/gentoo-trinity-overlay/zipball/master and making a local overlay, but that didn't work -- only kde4 packages showed up in emerge --search. It's possible I have something masked, but I'd think if I had the overlay set up correctly, that they would show up in the search, just marked as uninstallable.
I don't need the whole TDE desktop -- I only want to get kpdf and gwenview working.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions or explanations.
The Trinity situation on Gentoo is . . . complicated.
First thing you need to know is that there is no complete Trinity overlay for Gentoo. Serghei's is dated and incomplete, and no longer being worked on. The one that Roman and I were working on (see It ) is slightly less dated, but also incomplete. I don't think gwenview is available from either overlay at this time. I can give a shot at making an ebuild, but I have a lot on my plate right now, so it's going to be at least a week (assuming I can get it to work at all--we stalled out due to problems with the packages that were still using autotools to build). Neither overlay is part of the official listings, so layman doesn't have them.
You need to add either overlay locally by git-cloning or otherwise downloading it, then adding it to PORTDIR_OVERLAY in make.conf. You should then be able to emerge packages by explicitly specifying a version, e.g., for Serghei's overlay, "emerge =kpdf-3.5.13_p1183307", or for Roman's and mine, "emerge trinity-base/kpdf". Adding kde-base/kde-libs:4 and allied packages to package.mask may or may not be useful.
One last thing: if you're already using KDE3 from kde-sunset, system behaviour if you install Trinity packages on top of it is undefined (which is to say that no one's tried it, but there's a good chance it will break something).
Hope that helps.
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Thank you for the prompt and helpful answer. This is what I need to know.
It sounds like maybe I just need to wait until things stabilize a bit. Is there any way I can help with testing? I'm not a coder, but I know how to use a command line and follow directions. I wouldn't call myself "c++ literate," but I can read it a little bit.
I have tried to make the kde-sunset overlay work a couple of times. The most recent time I almost got kdelibs to compile successfully, but then ran into an error involving cups and an include-file that wasn't included. That's when I started looking at the tde overlays.
Thanks again.
Tony
On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 10:35:51 -0400 Tony Rein trein@cinci.rr.com wrote:
It sounds like maybe I just need to wait until things stabilize a bit. Is there any way I can help with testing? I'm not a coder, but I know how to use a command line and follow directions. I wouldn't call myself "c++ literate," but I can read it a little bit.
Unfortunately, what we need most right now is someone who can help unravel the tangle we've gotten into with respect to Portage and the autotools-dependant packages. Until that happens, or the remaining packages are ported to cmake, we're pretty much at a standstill.
Testing is always welcome, though. What Roman and I were able to get working was the equivalent of kdebase-meta, kdeartwork-meta, most of kdegraphics-meta, a few bits of kdenetwork (kmail, kopete) and kdeutils, and some third-party stuff (kaffeine, amarok). Just checking to see if these will emerge for you and reporting back any errors would be some help.
I have tried to make the kde-sunset overlay work a couple of times. The most recent time I almost got kdelibs to compile successfully, but then ran into an error involving cups and an include-file that wasn't included. That's when I started looking at the tde overlays.
Hmmm. I have kde-sunset's kdelibs working here (with cups 1.5.2-r4), but I don't know when the last time was that I had to re-merge it. Did you pass the error along to the gentoo-desktop ML?
On 07/08/12 12:51, E. Liddell wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 10:35:51 -0400 Tony Reintrein@cinci.rr.com wrote:
It sounds like maybe I just need to wait until things stabilize a bit. Is there any way I can help with testing? I'm not a coder, but I know how to use a command line and follow directions. I wouldn't call myself "c++ literate," but I can read it a little bit.
Unfortunately, what we need most right now is someone who can help unravel the tangle we've gotten into with respect to Portage and the autotools-dependant packages. Until that happens, or the remaining packages are ported to cmake, we're pretty much at a standstill.
Testing is always welcome, though. What Roman and I were able to get working was the equivalent of kdebase-meta, kdeartwork-meta, most of kdegraphics-meta, a few bits of kdenetwork (kmail, kopete) and kdeutils, and some third-party stuff (kaffeine, amarok). Just checking to see if these will emerge for you and reporting back any errors would be some help.
I will try this and report back. Right now I'm actually re-installing my entire Gentoo system, so it will be a few days before I will have anything to report.
Thanks to you and Roman for your hard work on this.
I have tried to make the kde-sunset overlay work a couple of times. The most recent time I almost got kdelibs to compile successfully, but then ran into an error involving cups and an include-file that wasn't included. That's when I started looking at the tde overlays.
Hmmm. I have kde-sunset's kdelibs working here (with cups 1.5.2-r4), but I don't know when the last time was that I had to re-merge it. Did you pass the error along to the gentoo-desktop ML?
Not yet. I need to re-try the operation and see if I get the same error. Part of my problem might have been that I was working on a weird Sabayon/Gentoo hybrid, which I imagine could have led to some version conflicts. That's why I'm re-installing -- so I'll be on a known, all-Gentoo platform.
Tony
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